I blocked the popup…
Did that work? I thought that would replace the video and didn’t bother trying.
It hasn’t caused me any issues
Mine’s different:
You use Arch, btw
Still working here, you can try clearing ubo’s cache to see if it goes away.
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War, War never changes.
Fun fact, it seems this ban is IP based. (they’re still testing in waves with a subset of overall users)
I switched to a new IP with my VPN, and while still signed in to the same YouTube account on the same video without ever clearing my cache or cookies, the block disappeared.
Genius work from the developers over at YouTube.
I think that’s probably because ublock fixed the filters while u were doing this.
It was early yesterday, before filters had been updated, 30 seconds after a full purge and re-selecting of all relevant filter lists, done within the span of 2 minutes, so I doubt it was those.
I use Firefox on Linux Mint, none of this happens and if it does you fix it by copy pasting a code on the settings of ublock
What code? I am on Fedora+Forefox and it does happen all tge time :-/
Search for it, is a code you paste on the my filters tab of Ublock add on in Firefox
aggressively refreshes ublock patch list
What’s the Fediverse YouTube? ooof. that’s a tough nut.
I love that the replies to you are half saying that it’s an impossible problem, and half linking to existing solutions.
Peertube, but it’s really not nearly the replacement lemmy or mastodon are.
Yet. It’s still very new, and as enshittification increases, so will federated development.
YT Shorts maybe
No one understands the astronomical bandwidth, CPU/GPU intensive calcs, and data storage necessities required to do anything close to what YouTube currently does.
There is no way under this warm sun that a fediverse version of YouTube will ever be feasible, unless someone like literally yourself is willing to pay extraordinary high amounts of money for all the required infrastructure and daily maintenance to run it.
What part of “bittorrent” do you not understand? I am really getting fucking sick and tired of people like you posting this bullshit FUD.
PeerTube uses WebTorrent protocol and it still doesn’t do well with the same quantity of bandwidth demands.
Post your own self-hosted PeerTube instance for us all to use then, let’s see who’s correct. Otherwise provide a solution or shut the fuck up.
A “fediverse” version of Youtube already got made and subsequently killed, PopcornTime.
The Bittorrent backbone already has plenty of media and can handle more bandwidth than we’d ever need to throw at it. Encrypted Onion Routing provides a degree of insurance against copyright cops, too. The only problems left to solve are automating the discovery of user-relevant content and avoiding the legal system long enough to write and popularize an open source app that puts it all together with a couch-friendly front-end.
PopcornTime was so amazing and important. Sad to see it dead.
Monetization. Tumbleweed content-wise. Some content producers make content for money.
Media reach: Content is stored, where the consumers look for it.
I would want to see some data on costs, because I think you might be overselling the difficulty and cost a bit (I don’t actually know, just my good faith belief). Imagine if every content creator ran their own instance. Instead of needing to worry about every user coming to a single group of servers, the Creator only needs to worry about the cost of hosting their own content and the traffic they get.
With the number of YouTubers who have to get sponsorships and Patreon anyway, it doesn’t really seem that infeasible or unreasonable to expect content creators to run their own thing or pay to have someone else to do it. Doesn’t seem like the YouTube money is that lucrative, anymore, so not like it would be all that different, either.
https://gbtimes.com/how-much-does-youtube/
Estimated annual server cost: approximately $1 billion
Estimated annual data center cost: approximately $5 billion
Estimated annual bandwidth cost: $3 billion
Good luck running that shit from your closet server.
According to that first link, it costs $6.1 billion to $11.7 billion annually to run YouTube. Even if you segment that into niche video communities, it’ll still cost hundreds of millions of dollars annually to host it, if you get a decent amount of traffic.
This is why YouTube is a monopoly. Because they have the ridiculous amount of money to throw at a “free” video hosting site. Any other video host would crumble under the weight of YouTube’s level of traffic. That’s also why some others, like Nebula, require a subscription model to function. Or any movie/TV show streaming service. They can’t afford to host that stuff for free.
This is also why Google is so obsessed with cracking down on anti-ad software. That’s how they make the money that pays for YouTube.
According to this, as of Jan 2024 there were 14 Billion videos on Yt. So effectively a dollar and change to host a video for all YT users.
Obviously it doesn’t work like that, but if the above commenter’s point was that I, a content creator, host my video and manage my own costs, and that video is linked via whatever federation, I can monetize and limit as needed as a creator, thus popular videos get paid to host, and unpopular videos are hosted for more or less table stakes because they’re only getting X hits per Month.
Some kind of WordPress-like container with a built-in safety switch for overages and - hey presto. Well, it’s a thought anyway.
I dunno, it seems do-able, even if the Great Unwashed are going to stick with YT and getting ads up the wazoo to see “I Stuffed My Face In A Fusion Reactor - Watch What Happens Next” and the like.
Sure, but you’re assuming all content is on one server. With something like PeerTube, content is federated.
That said, I don’t think federation is the solution here because a popular video is going to completely swamp that instance, but something P2P would probably work if you can stream from multiple seeders. Even if you copy like we do w/ Lemmy, you’d still end up with a handful of instances that are way more popular than the rest and those would get hammered if there’s a particularly popular video.
If you can spread that $6B (ignoring bandwidth here) over 10M people, you end up with a very reasonable $600/year, and costs would go down as more people join the network. I also assume a lot of that is duplication to handle demand spikes, which is baked in to the P2P system, so a P2P system would probably be way cheaper to scale up.
If you read the links, this includes their server clusters and employees across the entire world all doing complex load balancing and maintenance.
Sure, and none of that is necessary with a proper P2P system. If I’m torrenting something, it’ll naturally pull from seeders near me over seeders on the other side of the planet, so load balancing happens by every client being greedy.
The complex load balancing is only necessary because it’s a centralized service.
This protocol already exists and so does the system, PeerTube.
Why no significant quantity of people use it is apparent after you try it for a while; the entire server system cannot handle the commensurate volume of content and interactions that YouTube is popular for.
but something P2P would probably work if you can stream from multiple seeders
Which is, in fact, exactly how PeerTube works: it’s got BitTorrent built right into it.
Frankly, it’s ridiculous how people keep harping on this “problem” as if it isn’t long since solved.
I thought it was largely federated? I don’t know how the internals work, so I don’t know what group of peers it’ll pull from.
Regardless, the problem PeerTube has little to do with its technical foundation IMO, but the network effect. If we get people to start using it, either we’ll fix it or we’ll develop something better, but getting creators to move is the first step.
Several tried. Nothing as elaborate as cross dissemination, federation or whatever. But at least 5 to 10 years ago it proved to be almost impossible. Platforms like Rooster teeth, which was 100% subscription based, I think never broke even and still relied on YT ads for the majority of the revenue. Some big and small channels tried to at least just catalog, archive and serve their own videos and the costs still became astronomical really fast. Whenever you see one of those very old channels, most of them don’t conserve copies, let alone original source footage of their entire material. Everyone just delete their videos once they’ve been on YouTube for a month or so now, and they have to download their own videos when they want to reuse old footage.
Storage is cheap today, yes, but video really eats storage at an alarming rate. Specially now that 4k is the standard. So you have to reuse storage over and over. Transcoding is also really fast and optimized with modern algorithms, but it takes specialized graphical cards and data centers charge a premium to use servers with such capacities. Self hosting will never be able to satisfy a moderate demand. Get anything above 100 users simultaneously transcoding videos and a non-specialized server will halt to a grind just on IO calls to hard drives alone.
Once you consider all those factors it is obvious why YouTube is such a miracle.
peertube federates on activitypub
It’s such a miracle becuase the world gave it all of their content for free.
At least in part.
At this point, I wonder how we can solve google’s youtube monopoly. Is it even doable? So overwhelming.
Simplest solution is to kill Google CEOs, anything else proposed as a solution will take longer than your entire lifetime.
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peertube
Looks like google needs more broken up!
The whole idea that it violates the terms of service of a company to not let them show things on my screen without my consent is insane. It’s like if every time you went to the grocery store, the employees held you down and force fed you a free sample, then banned you from the store when you started running away from them.
I’m imagining a future where you’re not allowed to mute broadcast commercials
You already often can’t mute ads directly, you can only mute them on whatever platform you’re watching them on.
Fifteen Million Merits - Black Mirror - 2011
Please drink verification can.
I mean they already show ads when you pause. It’s just a tiny jump further to play video ads when you pause.
Exactly, it’s absolutely absurd.
Think we ought to just start harassing marketers and anyone involved with advertising.
It’s not that bizarre. They don’t have to serve you the content without showing you the ads that make the platform profitable. The freedom goes both ways. I use an ad blocker too, but I don’t think that YouTube is really doing anything wrong here. (Other than possibly ruining their own platform, but that’s their problem that they’re making for themselves.)
I hate the way they‘re doing it and how they push their silly premium subscription in my face whenever I open the app to look something up quick. Adblock all the way. But you‘re right. They have to make money somehow. They‘re a corporation after all. It‘s naive to think they will ever give up.
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A privately owned platform cannot serve the public good. There will always be conflicts of interest. A proper public square should be funded by a competent government (but those are rare) or decentralized.
When suggested adblock, my mother also do not convinced it’s right to use them. Basically, my mother is grateful for the service provided, and will “pay” by watching ads. I guess this one is not so clear-cut.
The whole idea that it violates the terms of service of a company to not let them show things on my screen without my consent is insane.
Something something contract of adhesion something something. It is functionally a term of service to watch the whole body of content as a condition of watching any of it.
It’s like if every time you went to the grocery store, the employees held you down and force fed you a free sample, then banned you from the store when you started running away from them.
This effectively used to be how people would sell Time Share rentals. You would “win” a “free vacation” to a destination that hosted the time share. Then, in order to check in you needed to sit through a sales pitch that only ended when you agreed to purchase the unit you’d allegedly been awarded as a prize.
If you tried to leave the sales pitch prematurely, you were ejected from the venue.
Yeah, and there’s a reason contracts of adhesion are [supposed to be] illegal.
Incoming Meat Canyon video
It’s worse than that. They use so much bw that most users have limited higher -speed to access, but they’re not giving anyone vouchers to pay for extra bandwidth.
From the uBO subreddit: https://old.reddit.com/r/uBlockOrigin/comments/1etvawp/youtube_ads_detection_breakages_2024_08_16_ubo/m31kbkw/
There was just an update to Quick fixes. Please test if it works for you.
- Click Here to update the list.
- If you disabled the list previously, enable it back.
- Close all previously opened YT tabs and try in a new one.
Just a reminder: Please always treat disabling lists as a last resort/temporary solution type of thing. Without that list, you won’t be receiving important filter updates and will likely encounter ads after a while. So don’t keep it disabled forever - verify that it’s still necessary (daily?).
If a million porn sites can make streaming video work, then YouTube is replaceable.
rumble, banned.video - it’s just people don’t upload stuff there
Rumble are also host to truth social and the worst of humanity.
YouTube is not replaceable because it’s the only reliable way for VOD creators to monetize their content effectively without a paywall. No other VOD platform comes close.
If creators can’t monetize their content effectively, they’re not going to upload to that platform.
Running yt in browser is so inefficient. So in in its native app.
This is not a post about phones…
I watch my YouTube content pre-downloaded by punchflat on my private Jellyfin instance just like everybody else!
mpv youtube-URL works just fine without even loading the crappy scripts to show a banner like that. Manage your subscriptions with a RSS feeder and you don’t need an account to follow creators.
