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Deserved. Fuck Adobe!
Why dont they get bullied on X as well?
Consider X’s current audience and you’ll have your answer
What would be a good alternative to Adobe After Effects ? Something that works in the same way.
I only used kdenlive an open source Video editor, I do not know how similar it is to AE though.
- cut and arange video snippets in a timeline
- apply effects like transform/lens to video
- I can apply simple audio effects with the pitch effect, or generate white noise. Slow down Video
- they have AI-effects and audio editing in their roadmap …
Sounds similar to AE from what I read on its wiki entry
That is a video editor much like Adobe Premier or Final Cut Pro, so would not be a replacement for AE. After Effects is essentially Photoshop but with motion and animation. It’s mostly for VFX and Motion Graphics. Not video editing or audio.
I use Blender for video editing, and as long as I never use another video editing package, I am sure to remain perfectly happy with Blender.
Is it possible to learn such sorcery ?
I was so happy to help in ensuring it ocurred
Greatjob Bluesky, One less Adobe monopoly
I know Curse of Ra will get old if it isn’t already for some, but it’s my favorite stupid meme currently.
Praise be unto RA, destroyer of Brands!
Per screenshots of the “skeet,” as folks on the butterfly app are wont to call their posts
What the fuck is this word salad?
bluesky tweet
English.
The word that’s throwing you off is probably wont
wont
(archaic or humorous) One's habitual way of doing things; custom, habit, practice.yeah, that one threw me for a loop and I consider my vocabulary to be fairly decent. I just assumed it was missing the apostroph to make it “won’t”. Thanks for clearing that up
Is this some word that’s commonly used in some English speaking countries? I’m a native speaker and have never heard or seen this word ever being used.
As far as I know it’s not commonly used anywhere, and is mostly used for effect.
I think it used to be more common in my parents’ generation.
The only people that are wont to use this are either somewhat pretentious/want to sound learned, or are using it for old timey comedic effect.
Learned is another word for wise or well taught, before anyone asks. It’s said ‘Learned’, not ‘learn-ed’.
No, that’s definitely not it.
Per screenshots of the “skeet” = As can be understood from screenshots of the post, also known as a “skeet”
as folks on the butterfly app = (a name that) users of Bluesky
are wont to call their posts… = like to call their posts…
“Skeet” being a combination of “sky” and “tweet”, which I hope you can figure out the origins of, and also a somewhat dirty word that the owners of Bluesky would really prefer people didn’t use as the non-generic name for posts on their platform, but is also disturbingly accurate if you compare the conceptually similar word “disseminate” for the spreading of information.
I should probably have separated the above into two sentences somewhere.
I’m in the UK this week, it’s how they talk. It’s fun but can be difficult understanding what someone actually means 30 seconds later
As seen in the screenshot of the “skeet” (BlueSky post), as users of BlueSky like to call their posts.
It looks like perfectly cromulent English to me.
That’s not word salad.
How is it not? It makes absolutely no sense.
While it may be difficult to start reading books at the point you are at, it seems like it might be worth the effort to overcome the initial difficulties.
Ah yes, my confusion totally warrants personal insults, thank you for that.
That’s fair. Though it was more in response to how consistently negative you were being to everyone else. Like you were trying to prove to everyone else the sentence was as hard to read as you thought it was. I was more attacking the character you were playing with ad hominem, to show you how your position was coming across.
LOL I’ve no idea what you’re on about, I wasn’t playing any “character”.
Well, not at first, but after an hour of everyone explaining the sentence, and how it was a proper well-written sentence, at some point maintaining that you were correct that it didn’t make sense had to start being a character you were playing.
Whether unintentionally manifested through ODD, or intentional, same difference.
Aside from being angry at their choice to call their “tweet” equivalent “Skeets”, which bit confuses you?
Aside from being angry at their choice to call their “tweet” equivalent “Skeets”
I’m not angry, I legitimately just didn’t know that.
which bit confuses you?
…the whole thing? Hence “word salad”.
It really does make perfect sense. There is nothing grammatically or semantically wrong with the bit you quoted. Is English your first language?
It’s okay to admit that you don’t understand what is being said. That doesn’t make it “word salad”
The fact that it’s seemingly a bunch of random words crammed together in a sentence makes it “word salad”.
Operative word being “seemingly”.
Also seemingly: you not being as literate as you think you are.
Operative word being “seemingly”.
I am aware. That’s why I wrote it. It was not an accident. It was not a declarative statement.
Also seemingly: you’re being an unnecessary asshole. Goodbye.
Some brilliant people invented photoshop
It was a good product but expensive
Some asshole coke head CEO decided to make it more expensive and worse.
Fuck adobe.
GIMP 3 FTW
Big GIMP fan. That being said, Adobe needs to start promoting some of their actually good stuff, like their investment in the open C2PA spec for proving content authenticity, vs constant AI crap that is the exact opposite.
I use Affinity Suite for work. Paid for it once, have it forever. Free updates until new editions, which are discounted if you own an older edition. Buy it for one platform (Windows), that’s a license for that edition of any other platform too. AND they regularly go on special, often to 50% off.
It doesn’t have AI content generation, but it does a few things Adobe doesn’t - like being able to use Photo and Designer from INSIDE Publisher, seamless like its a single program!
Affinity Photo (Photoshop), Designer (Illustrator), and Publisher (InDesign). Then Krita for raster illustration. That’s all I need as a professional
I have some artist friends who saw the writing on the wall after Adobe told Apple to fuck off with the iPad and Affinity said hold my beer. One owns her own publishing company and as of a few years ago all new projects were Adobe-free workflows. She still has Adobe but will only use it for older shit that might still need something later. Going forward, she (and therefore her entire operation) are fucking done with Adobe. Another friend learned both so he could adapt to whatever the market has in store for him and since the market sucks for artists he’s going freelance too and has said absolutely no to Adobe.
Adobe is officially legacy software. Vendor lock in won’t save it as the creatives don’t need industry titans to survive.
Moat of the teams I see hiring designers are still using Adobe, and printshops take .ai files. But most of the solo designers I know use Affinity, and I’ve heard of one (albeit small) team that has swapped to Affinity for their whole team.
Affinity was just bought by Canva so idk how it might evolve over time, or if v3 will make compromises I don’t agree with. But I got v1 during Covid, loved it, converted to v2 as soon as it was available, still love it. Using all of them on the same file in the same window feels amazing.
Another downside is that designers rarely make asset packs for Affinity. But I’m pretty sure Affinity is able to import brush pack formats from one of the other big names, just not sure which (likely Adboe’s .abr)
I don’t like painting in Photo though, but that might be because I’m so used to Krita, which is designed for illustration in the first place. (They’re great, I might donate to them again actually)
I (distantly) knew an indie software developer who was putting up a pretty good Photoshop alternative in 1996: ONE GUY alone in his bedroom was making a decent living selling a Photoshop alternative that he wrote himself. And he wasn’t exactly a super-wunderkind coder, just a guy who knew the photo manipulation space well enough to get enough customers to float selling his software for a few years - in direct competition with Photoshop.
Adobe isn’t selling magic dust ground from precious gemstones by thousands of artisans. They had a decent product that they marketed the hell out of and eventually got overly greedy.
GIMP, Krita, and many others are right up there if you haven’t been sucked into the Adobe addiction vortex.
Krita is awesome with a drawing pad
And I’m not like even good at doing anything
Yeah, I got my son a draw-on monitor explicitly for use with Krita. It’s a normal PC too, but it makes Krita much easier to use well.
I use GIMP, but you can’t compare it to Photoshop. GIMP has a horrible GUI and it has very strange design choices.
The Affinity suite is comparable to Photoshop, but it’s a paid product.
I compare today’s GIMP to the Photoshop I used in the 1990s, and they’re not very different at all.
Ok, so I’ve tried gimp in the past, but had a hard time with it. Honestly, my Photoshop skills are mostly self taught (and not all that impressive), but that’s the interface I know. How similar to Photoshop can one make the interface in gimp these days? Because that’s probably my biggest hurdle.
Gimp is a little steeper learning curve but if you already know photoshop it’s not that bad.
The tricky thing is knowing what to do when you get stuck. Luckily they wrote a manual that assumes you’re only reading the manual because you got stuck and you’re so frustrated you’re actually reading the manual.
Gimp3 just launched and it’s really nice.
And free.
Photopea represent
Affinity Photo for me!
I’d prefer FOSS but…GIMP ain’t it.
Have used Photopea in* a bind in the past, it’s also pretty good especially the clone GUI.
I moved to Affinity early this year, and it has been amazing!! I was expecting a long adjustment period after decades with Photoshop, but it’s so similar that I picked it up super quick!
I have been using it for the past 5+ years. It is good enough, and its perpetual license.
Another vote for Affinity. Excellent Adobe alternatives 1-time reasonable price. Such a breath of fresh air after so many subs.
Just an FYI that you might want to get some practice in with some Affinity alternatives, because they’ve been purchased by Canva, and so enshittification might set in any time.
It may enshittify, but since it’s a one time purchase and not a subscription, you can keep using your version.
Oh that’s really good.
Bought out by Canva, I also currently love it, but I don’t expect that to last.
FUCK.
Krita is my graphics app of choice these days. But there are many alternatives that are great (like Gimp and Photopea).
Krita is my graphics app of choice these days.
So much of Krita is great and then there is the text tool which is still a heap of trash.
New update coming for that soon!
New update coming for that soon!
I’m fully aware of the feature that has been promised for years and is supposed to land in 5.3. I’m still using Krita, just not solely.
Bluesky has a lot of artists. Posting this video here: https://youtu.be/I4mdMMu-3fc
I still remember when they bought Macromedia Flash and all my animator friends and I simply couldn’t stand Adobe Flash CS3 or whatever it was called. It used more resources, crashed more often and didn’t exactly bring anything revolutionary to the table in terms of new functions.
And they bought Macromedia’s suite and destroyed it.
RIP Fireworks…
Fireworks had so much potential as a web design app and they threw it away.
Illustrator and InDesign were too focused on print media and Photoshop could barely comprehend anything unless it was rasterized.
And they bought Cool Edit and destroyed it.
I miss macromedia flash so bad, actionscript for life
Good I hated working in actionscript so much.
I once built a website preloader that was so large that I made a pre-preloader for it. Good times indeed.
A flash preloader was my first real tech job! As I recall, they stiffed my last paycheck and went under later.
But it was incredibly fun and I made connections that steered my career to a new direction for the next decade.
Awesome, what’s keeping you busy these days? (If this is an account where it’s OK to share that on)
<insert outdated xzibit meme here> Agreed, the wildest of wests.
Fireworks for me. I miss that whole suite though.
Now there’s a name I haven’t seen in a while and that makes me a little bit sad.
And they bought Paintshop pro and destroyed it
Corel bought Paint Shop Pro and destroyed it, not Adobe, though it was an Adobe-style move to be sure.
I think he is old, like me and means aldus photostyler. Which was light years ahead of adobe in background separation.
That’s what big tech companies do, they buy small and promissing companies they think that once can become a competitor and then… destroy it. The young startups just take the money and can retire early.
I feel like I should have switched to GIMP a decade ago.
The best time to switch was 10 years ago. The second best time to switch is right now.
Some brilliant people invented photoshop
So the real question is whether Photoshop might ever have become successful, if Adobe hadn’t bought it.
It sure is.
GIMP 3, Krita, Darktable, Inkscape, Kdenlive
if you poke around graphic design as a hobby, these might be fine, but not for professional use from what I’ve read :/
e.g. apparently Inkscape still can’t really do CMYK
Photopea, Shotcut
Blender
The people editing their images in Blender are the same people who edit their videos in Blender lol.
Has it gotten better with editing? I tried a couple of years ago and just couldn’t. It’s amazing for the 3d software. If they could make it easier to measure things, I’d use it for CAD too.
It doesn’t do it natively, but it does have plugins for CAD features
Maybe I’m doing too much engineering - I found Open SCAD to be way easier than Blender for making stuff, and that’s saying something because Open SCAD is quite a pain.
I hate the syntax in OpenSCAD. It LOOKS like something object-oriented but it is procedural, causing oh so many footguns, if one expects it to act like OOP.
I’m a mostly procedural thinker, even though I program in OOP all day long. OpenSCAD works a lot like the rest of my code: write it, try it, look at the results, curse, revise it, try it, look at the results, curse differently… you get there eventually. I do highly suggest not coding a masterpiece in OpenSCAD without visualizing the components first.
I can see why for engineering, it allows you to be super precise. I’m not sure the people who developed the CAD side of Blender have ever used it for anything precise or to build details and drawings of any kind. They just seem clueless, there is no other way to put it. AutoSketch used to be so great, maybe the paid version is now. That was different than AutoCAD and Revit, but I loved it.
I’ve always seen Blender as a 3D art tool but never as a precise 3D engineering tool. Didn’t even know Blender had CAD features
FreeCAD for CAD as others mentioned.
Sadly FreeCAD is absolutely shit compared to what commercial CAD products offer - and sadly even 1.0 didn’t change their problems.
They still have that issue about surface name I think. But I highly disagree on it being absolute shit. That’s pretty insulting and unhelpful. But let’s call it for what it is. Its rough around the edges. But so is solidworks and we use solidworks to create simply amazing optical systems. Its not the tool. Its the user. I’ve used AutoCAD for years, ProE/wildfire/Cro-E, UgNX, Inventor, Solidworks and freeCAD. Hands down NX is king at all levels. Next is Cro/E. Somewhere far down is solidworks and inventor and Google do every evil possible I don’t remember their cad system name. But FreeCAD is not at the bottom. Its just a little rough is all. Last week I draw up a set of speakers. Single sketch, quick drawing. It didn’t cost me a dime. I printed it out and I made my speakers. Not insults required, it works for the everyday user. I’m designing my new dream house between NX and FreeCAD. FreeCAD because it will always be mine vs…oh here’s an update, oops! Now its not compatible! Or whatever excuse, give us money. That’s pretty shitty and all CAD systems have that except for FreeCAD.
Depends on your needs. I probably wouldn’t consider it good enough yet for commercial but the improvements on 1.0 take care of pretty much all of my needs. The “free” licenses for Fusion360 and OnShape are garbage and feel like nothing more than attempts to get hobbyists and small businesses locked in before changing terms. Plus, last I checked, they pull the same kinda data vacuum bullshit that social media companies did in their terms - “free” license holders should expect any and all of their work to be resold by the companies for profit.
I believe i recall there being an update specifically to the video editor within the past year or two, but don’t quote me on that. They have done updates to post processing, the timeline functionality, grease pencil, and i believe some other things that would apply to video editing, so i imagine it would be easier to work with. There are cad and measuring add-ons as well, i believe some free within blender itself.
I bought Davinci, so I’m happy with that, but I’ll still check out the Blender version. I can’t really complain about it, it does so much and is free.
As far as CAD goes, they aren’t really usable to be fast in CAD. It’s super cumbersome. You should be able to move things 1" to the right or left, put things at certain heights and move around the space in an easy way. I haven’t found anything that can do that for imperial. Also, the tools for making dimensions is really bad and I don’t think there’s a way to make a blueprint unless you come up with something yourself. That being said, it’s free and it’s not their focus. They concentrate on the 3D portions.
If the units are set to inches for length. You can just type G (grab), X (or Y or Z), and 1 to move an inch in any direction. I think it used to be worse.
I’ve started using FreeCAD for CAD work, I’ve used Fusion 360 for 5 years before trying FreeCAD (again, I tried it a few years ago) and it works pretty good.
It’s different and it’s taking some getting used to but it’s working out quite nicely so far.
You say that like it’s a bad thing lol
FreeCAD (for less-organic modeling)
Gimp sucks. Krita is way better.
They have different purposes.
“So much for the tolerant left”
I must be some galaxy brain to understand you!
Don’t worry I thought it was funny.
Hey as long as I break even it’s a win
FAFO
Not you. take CURSE OF RA [7 incromprehensible egyptian hyroglyphs]
Best reply to a greeting by Adobe
I can’t see any screenshots
how lazy is this “journalism” where they don’t copy the images
Images of web content usually break accessibility (implicit ableism) unless alt text is provided, which really amounts to a poor substitute for embedding content, block quoting, or linking to source (what the web was made for), where no alt text is needed because the actual text is there.
Stop breaking accessibility: oppose inaccessible screenshots of accessible content.
No
Please stop with the “ablism” thing to shut down anything good but not good enough.
If I can’t see the info on bluesky without an account then yes, a screenshot should be required. Bluesky content can be deleted, but a screenshot stays.
Yes, I know that some people need screen readers and yes, we can improve upon this by, I dunno, making an image format for screenshots that allow for alt text or whatever.
What is not helpful is calling people tomstip using a normal day to day tool just because it isn’t perfectly adjusted for < 1% of the Internet users.
To be really clear about it, I’m not saying I don’t care about them, I’m saying you shouldn’t throw around insults just because someone didn’t do a standard task perfect enough for everyone, or mostly: you
No
Please stop with the “ablism” thing to shut down anything good but not good enough.
What is not helpful is calling people tomstip using a normal day to day tool just because it isn’t perfectly adjusted for < 1% of the Internet users.
Emphatic no to your no. Disabling content isn’t good or helpful. Disabled content is worse for everyone: no source, less functionality, less to corroborate, often harder to read. It’s only “good enough” for people able as you while pointlessly excluding those unlike you, ie, ableism.
16% of the world population experiences some form of disability. Anyone can become disabled temporarily or permanently. With age, nearly all of us become disabled in some capacity. This is as much a matter of self-regard & forethought as it is for regard of others. It is in your interest to have accessible content whether or not you realize it.
we can improve upon this by, I dunno, making an image format for screenshots that allow for alt text or whatever.
A new technology isn’t needed: not breaking what isn’t broken is enough. Better alternatives have existed since the beginning of the web: linking, embedding, or even copying & pasting the text into a blockquote. A screenshot of web content is a shitty tool serving the able-bodied.
If I can’t see the info on bluesky without an account then yes, a screenshot should be required.
That’s a strong argument for pressuring bluesky to cut their crap instead of enabling their structural ableism by taking screenshots. The alternatives mentioned before still exist.
Bluesky content can be deleted
There’s this crazy feature where if you select the text instead of a rectangle of screen, you can copy & paste it. Always been there. About the same number of steps. Wild.
I’m not saying I don’t care about them
Whether you “care” doesn’t matter when the effect is the same as not caring and the simplest actions anyone could take aren’t taken. The effect of that blithe, inconsiderate disregard is structural ableism. Rather than take the easy way out & reinforce this, we each have the power to address it.
Unlike the abstract issues often discussed here far removed from our control, these are practical actions within our immediate control. We all have power with the simplest of gestures to make our content accessible instead of selfishly able-centric.
Choosing not to when we know better indicates who we are. Defending acts to harmfully disable content also indicates who we are.
Emphatic no to your no. Disabling content isn’t good or helpful. Disabled content is worse for everyone: no source, less functionality, less to corroborate, often harder to read.
this is disabled content. we are barred from reading it, unless we register. parent commenter asked one thing: also include a screenshot for cases like this
this is an empathetic no to reading your comment any further
As written multiple times, there are better alternatives. Disregarding them is shortsighted ableism. I suggest some attention span.
better alternatives? linking, embeddib? worthless when the website itself decides thatbit won’t show you the content
quoting? you mean, all of the response tweets? and how do you quote images, videos?
worthless when the website itself decides thatbit won’t show you the content
Businesses are legally bound to make their online content accessible: a screenshot without alt text doesn’t solve this for them. Isn’t it common practice around here to link to archives? Quoting & linking isn’t worthless.
quoting? you mean, all of the response tweets?
Yes. Unreasonable? No, compulsory & common standard industry standard. Out of legal necessity (and market reach), they already write text out (as alt text for all meaningful images). An image of a tweet with replies requires writing all that text out.
Try this exercise yourself to realize how pointless an image of text is (which images of tweets mostly are). Take an image of text, write the markup to display the image, include an
altattribute set to the full text shown in the image. If you have any sense, you’ll return to the source of the image to copy & paste the original text into thealtattribute. If you lack sense, you’ll tediously read the image and retype it into thealtattribute. Your choice.Realize anything yet?
- You’re returning to the source, so linking it is basic sense, right?
- You already write text out, but your effort is wasted as a flat text attribute for an image that adds nothing compelling, only some meaningless visuals of UI artifacts. That text could instead be the main attraction with semantic mark up (blockquotes, paragraphs, lists, etc). It makes more sense to skip the image entirely & quote the text directly: less work, more functional, better.
and how do you quote images, videos?
The way it’s already done. Online news doesn’t typically give screenshots of images or videos. They link, embed, or copy the image or video to directly provide it alongside some quotes.
Selecting lines of text instead of rectangles of screen to copy & paste isn’t a novel, farfetched idea.
Bleets?
The Sheeples bleat on BlueSky?
Skeets
Lol, the article says skeet, but I like yours better.
That’s weird. The bluesky links in the article work fine for me, and I don’t have a bluesky account.
Ahh hang on, this one doesn’t work but all the rest do
https://bsky.app/profile/megzavala.bsky.social/post/3lmdz2tu6xk2x
Ahh here we go: it’s a user made setting not a bluesky one
“Sign-in Required This user has requested that their content only be shown to signed-in users. This label was applied by the author.”
Ahh here we go: it’s a user made setting not a bluesky one
“Sign-in Required This user has requested that their content only be shown to signed-in users. This label was applied by the author.”
Why would a user choose to enable that? Would that make it less likely to be scraped by a bot?
bsky started with nine of its posts. wing shown publicly so when they flopped the switch (i think they also opened registration without invites) some people who had gotten used to their post being hidden from the rest of the net felt exposed and the devs added this settings.
while i do not think its a great setting i kinda get it. especially given that there are not (yet) private accounts so that’s the best they have
Probably the same person who ends all of their comments on Lemmy with that stupid “anti-AI commercial license” or whatever bullshit.
It’s like the polar opposite of “Brought to you by Carl’s Jr.”
TBH it’s better journalism to include the link, but they could do both.
Source can be destroyed. An alternative screenshoot backup/proof is good measure. Especially in web its better to not depend on an outside server.
Like if they close (or some billionaire buy them and requires an account for everything), your content becomes worthless.
Sources can be recovered in archives & web caches. Screenshots can be fake & often break accessibility.
Always prefer sources.
I don’t say “remove the source”, I say “the source can disappear, the way back machine have already been attacked, just do your own copy of the source and make it available”.
I know screenshots can be faked, but if your news source does it it is not reliable. Drop it immediately.
In that case, too, the text can be quoted, then just like magic it’s accessible. A quote that links to the source is a strong combination.
Everyone benefits: the text is searchable, reflowable, adaptable to multi-modal input & output, easy to quote via copy & paste, etc. It’s simply more useful & screenshots don’t inherently give any of that.
Yes. I talked about screenshots because the first message said:
I can’t see any screenshots from the article, all require a bluesky account. At least on twitter you could see images without login before the takeover.
For “text source only” I’m with you quotes are enough.
And if images are post anywhere, always provide an alt text, plz everyone !
If the point is to reproduce an image, not text, then yes, definitely provide those images. Agreed: nothing wrong in that.
im still rockin a cs6 version. works fine on w11ltsc. fuck the cloud and fuck ai.
I have to open PDFs all day long at work to read our schematics. No I don’t want an “AI assistant” or an “AI summary” on drawings of electrical wiring. And I need to close multiple menus to get rid of them, and the only option is “disable for this session”, no way to permanently turn them off
I remember reading a story a while back about someone who owned a legit CS version with a proper serial and activation.
They had to change computer, and in doing so had to reactivate Photoshop, but it wasn’t working. They contacted Adobe support and explained the situation but support basically told him nope, not a chance, we aren’t helping you. You need to subscribe to new Photoshop.
So Adobe accepted that yes, he bought a perpetual licence for Photoshop and that yes, the reason it isn’t working is the online activation, but they still refused to help.
Scumbags.
yupp, its not possible anymore. you have to crack your your own bought photoshop.
Hell yeah, they deserve it.
