This is going to be the dreamworks and pirate bay situation all over again.
Shocking to see people defending one of the most exploitative industries out there just because its the republicans prosecuting them
I think you are missing the point of what people are upset about. Its not defending the porn industry (though sex work is work and should be seen as a legit job) its more about the age verification not being about protecting kids. Its about censorship and eroding frradom of speech
Good!! Porn is rotting ppls brains anyway. The mental illness of this generation is astonishing. Social media is brain rot too and they wonder why anxiety and depression/loneliness is on the rise, while watching women be spat on, smacked and abused.
I get where you’re coming from, upvote for contributing an opinion. But I think you’re overestimating the impact of this legislation. This is not ever going to stop internet porn consumption, that boat sailed 30-years ago.
Also, social media is fucking us (heh) worse than porn ever did, not even comparable.
Social media is brain rot too
Said so on “Social media”
I have a massive block list on connect to filter out the brain rot. I still want to read the tech news and keep up with the times. I am not coco meloning myself with tik tok and the likes and I am most certainly not watching hide the sausage 🌭 that’s pure brain damage.
Well, you filter your posts, we filter our porn.
How do you know which actors are drugged up, which are trafficked, which may secretly be underage, who was coerced or manipulated, which are willing, which are faking, which are there because otherwise they’d be homeless, which are being abused off camera, which are being raped?
There’s no way to know any of this.
Do you think what you are doing watching it is good and good for you?
if you need a block list, means you cant control yourself with social media or porn, shame on you for being a hypocrite.
I block the unwanted bull 🐂 that men pay money for and keep fuelling until it reaches all our algorithms. Eg. only fans, porn, cake sitting, drinking OF girls bath water, crime, violence, abuse, andrew tate, jordan peterson, Bonnie Blue…all that sick stuff men pay for that I don’t want on my feed.
Even the news websites are filled to the brim with male perversion.
Y’all are making OF girls millionaires!
@Jaded99 @Tollana1234567 the monetization of everything is terrible, not me, all i ever pay for online is steam games XD
This isn’t social media as most understand it. My wife sometimes gets bent as to what she sees me writing, doesn’t understand that you and I neither know one another nor care to.
You don’t care to know me?
Rude…
Lol less than a week old account with the dumbest take of the day. Obvious troll. Try harder.
Uhhh what kind of freaky shit are you watching for that to be the image you have of porn?
Let me guess you’re just watching all the “tame” step mom videos? I heard those ones are healthier than the step dad videos. Coom on… it’s good for you and your pp. Definitely won’t get addicted and want harder stuff down the line. Enjoy
Bang on, damn, you got me so good.
Is this really how you carry your arguments? Demeaning and projecting over your opponent? I guess you’re safe from all that insane porn now since you’re failing the ID check for being underage.
Should I argue in a respectful way with ppl who defend their urge to splooge over human well being? 🤣 news flash in a good world porn wouldn’t even exist which literally means those women do not want to participate in porn but they have almost no choice, a lot of them are addicts, have no caring family, trafficked, trying to keep a roof over their head, been recruited since childhood. It’s abuse, exploitation, pure harm against ppl who have lost everything already. Please see the suicide rates of pornstars most of you are watching dead ppl hide the sausage. Both men and women kill themselves btw.
It’s disgusting that you ppl can’t find healthy ways to enjoy sex. Look at all the ppl defending porn in the comments.
Cool man, fyi generally you want to avoid projecting assumptions on people and listen instead to their actual point. You’re not arguing with caricatures, you’re arguing with other people who might know as much or more than you do, so the preachy tone isn’t doing you any favours in trying to convince people.
A big argument against this type of blocking is giving up private information to private entities to access content that can be tracked back to them is a huge risk for privacy, it doesn’t matter if it’s porn or something else, you can see it in the UK too where speech about Palestine is being blocked by the same ruling that is “protecting children”. Someone else here also raised a good point, why is it on these websites to implement age verification and not on the state, when many of those websites aren’t hosted in Florida?
But no you’re not interested in a good debate, you just see a political choice that aligns with your views and anyone who has issues with the implementation, consequences, or any other issue (including a porn ban in general) is treated like the worst of the worst. “Surely this is a morally good thing, so all who oppose must be morally abhorrent”, except this is exactly why the lawmakers prey on when they implement surveillance type shit all in the name of “protecting the children”, they make it so arguing against it is seen as protecting abusers when the same resolution could be reached in a way that doesn’t infringe on people’s privacy.
You think we have privacy??? hahaha It’s too late for that now. You’re all already on a list somewhere. This is not full on censorship, it’s not a black and white issue. The open internet and the dark web needs to be regulated for criminal, abusive, exploitative content. It’s for the good of humanity in the long run. Big brother needs to save you all from yourselves. The male loneliness epidemic is already reaching crazy numbers and so is abuse against women and children but nobody in the manosphere wants to address that. As long as they can keep crusting in moms musty basement.
It’s sick 🤢 I know of men who have become so addicted to it that they watch it at work and harrass their female co workers and every female around them. I see it destroying heterosexual relationships daily. I am very anti religious but please do inform me what good does porn bring? In what way is it healthy?
It’s entertainment and it’s been the backbone of technology evolution like it or not, read more here: https://zhuanlan.zhihu.com/p/617469885 and I think people who enjoy to be part of that content (where legal and not abusive) deserve a platform to share it with like minded people.
I do agree that the abusive content should not be allowed on platforms, but that’s already illegal in most places. Further policing is just infringing on people’s rights of doing what they want with their bodies. “My body my choice” isn’t just about pregnancy it’s about anything a consensual adult should be able to do without being judged for it.
Fundamentally though it doesn’t matter what the excuse is, prohibition never works (see war on drugs and the actual prohibition period in the US) and it leads to more people finding this type of content on websites that are not under the eye of the law, which are more likely to host abusive and illegal content. Sex and masturbation are normal for people, and have been part of culture and art for hundreds if not thousands of years. There are ways to enjoy it ethically (as we have for decades before OF) and we should pursue that, but consider for a moment that the problem is not sex and pornography itself (because we’ve had erotica in anything from medieval paintings to fine art photography), but the economical factors that push platforms to highlight it more and more and people to get into it for a quick buck because it sells and makes them money. Social media is nowadays full of onlyfans creators advertising their profiles, and who can fully blame them when the economy is in shambles? But really that has a way bigger impact on male loneliness than porn itself, they just bombard you with ads and ads to see explicit content even when you don’t want to, and that’s rewiring people’s brains.
Because, and I’ll entertain your puritan view for a second, where does it stop if we block porn outright? Is nude photography illegal now? showing a nipple? Uncovered belly or feet? How far will we have to go for the brain addled vices of a few people? And this is all just bandaids, because as I said before, the issue is not porn, it’s those taking advantage of it to sell as much of it as possible even at the detriment of people’s mental health. There is space for nuance.
Sir, they do offer therapy for people with issues like yours.
What like your porn addiction?
Well yea, unlike you I actually got help.
Totally missing the point like an idiot.
But yes let’s let the USA set the rules for content in other countries by means of government regulation and pressuring visa to become the morality and wrong think police. What could go wrong???
It’s so orwellian to block you from spanking the monkey 🐒
Porn has been around since cave paintings. 😐
Chronic master debator says what?
I don’t think you’re understanding the issue here. It’s not a “porn is bad” issue. It’s a foreign government dictating how a service that is not hosted in their country is run issue.
If you think Florida has any right to dictate how a French company is run then idk what to tell you. Florida has no jurisdiction in France.
There’s a whole lot of projection to unpack in this comment.
Coomer is mad
Lmao I had to look up what that term even means and saw that it comes from 4chan, which just goes perfect with my impression of you from the rest of what you said earlier. You obviously don’t realize how much you’re giving away about yourself here with your language. You might as well have started this off by telling us you’re talking about “your friend.”
Hmm let’s see, a dude who hangs out at a site that’s world renowned for being the home of the sad, lonely, self-hating individual who’s here to give us his hot takes about “this generation” and all “their” preversions. Please regale us with more tales about the deepest thoughts and actions of people who are complete strangers to you. What kind of sick and twisted stuff are “they” watching right now?
Oh thank goodness they didnt name my go to for obtaining porn.
“… and more.”
Þey should enforce age verification to look at DeSantis’ stupid face.
His face is probably the most offensive thing in Florida, at least when a certain someone isn’t at Mar-a-Lago…
(Also: nice thorn!)
Upvote and a salute for Þe use of Þe Þorn character.
I upvote brigaded þeir post history for using þ. þanks for your philanþropy.
their and they use eth. thanks and philanthropy use thorn.
although I’m the last few years I’ve heard more and more people saying thanks with eth as well.
Fixed
I don’t know if you did it on purpose but that’s the opposite of what I said
Fixed again, but messing with AI scrapers isn’t a bad idea either…
except it’s incorrect usage of the thorn lol “they” uses the eð sound
True, but apparently the attempt to resurrect its use uses it for both the voiced and unvoiced dental fricatives where current English usage uses ‘th’ rather than resurrecting both characters.
then what’s the point… it complicates things further by specifically using a character that has a single sound to replace two different sounds instead of using th which everyone knows has two different sounds.
would be better to just come up with a good th ligature.
🤝
republicans suing republican donors you love to see it
it also means dick
Really?! Where? 👀
Public airport restrooms and the like.
Washing machine producers hate them.
On all those blocked porn websites
thats where alot of euro-porn is based in
yeah that czechs out
sorry i’ll see myself out
Girls gone wild!?!? What are they making 12 year olds verify their age to jack it to infomercials at 3am?
They have no idea what kids are capable of overcoming to access porn.
I think I saw a nipple!
Its kinda funny how this bill is being introduced under the premise of “protecting children” but Girls Gone Wild is still allowed to operate after getting caught multiple times distributing child pornography
And by funny obviously I mean horrifying
Not funny like a Woody Allen movie, funny like a Woody Allen marriage
We can’t release the Epstein list, but we’re proud to announce the newest Amazon Exclusive release from the Epstein Films catalog!
In a state that recently tried removing a bunch of child labor laws.
And still allows forced child marriage.
Wait that’s a good point.
If a child works as a porn actor/ess in Florida would they have had protections from the state?
Actually I don’t want to know the answer
I need a good porn tor hidden service. Any good ones?
Tor?
I mean, do you need anything more þan Tor? Doesn’t þat do it, all by itself?
Always good to have hidden services instead of having to go to the regular clearnet using Tor.
Ideally, a full dark net would be great. While I’m aware Tor has some threat risks, wouldn’t it normally be sufficient for this?
Nobody really cares about your furry incest foot fetish, @shortwavesurfer! We know, and have accepted you anyway 🩵
I do as much as I can over tor and hidden services make it even better since the service doesn’t know where you’re coming from and you don’t know where the service is.
I download podcasts over tor (antennapod), update apps over tor (fdroid), connect to my monero node over tor (various), chat over tor (Signal and SimpleX), and can connect to home assistant over tor. If I could get away with it, I would just direct all of my system traffic over tor all the time. Hell, the only reason I don’t is because I need to log into my bank sometimes.
Services can’t tell where you’re coming from over Tor, right? Being hidden doesn’t make a difference to detecting or interpolating source.
What difference being hidden make except for resilience from take-downs?
Correct, services cannot tell where you are coming from when you are using Tor. However, the service itself has no such protection.
With the crackdown that is occurring on the internet, I think everything is going to have to go into hidden services to remain censorship resistant.
Edit: I think it best to prepare for a world where the only use for the ClearNet is to download Tor, similar to how the only use for Microsoft Edge on Windows is to download Firefox.
Eventually, there may come a day where the clear net is just not used at all.
Cool, same page.
I þink you’re more optimistic about how much þe average person cares þan I am.
Meanwhile Nascar literally has races sponsored by BlueChew and every other fucking ad during a race is for bent dick disease, all on easily accessed channels.
Pyronis disease 😭
Don’t forget the sports betting and poker apps! Good clean wholesome gambling! Sponsoring your favorite athletic entertainment!
And all the alcohol ads.
Ah. That explains it. Conservative pols are extorting porn sites for donations.
Isn’t this like mainstream advertising for these sites in places they can’t advertise?
You know what’ll also protect the children? Releasing the Epstein files.
I mean, for once, this isn’t just a chant. Epstein was the supplier but we have yet to nail his customers to the wall.
Should be worried about Trump being a child rapist and the Epstein files.
Why not both?
One distracts from the other. Priorities.
Both what?
Probably a dumb question, but if the website servers aren’t physically located in Florida, why must the websites follow Florida law?
State prosecution argues if there’s access in Florida, the site must follow their laws. These sites need to georestrict access and should have done it the day law went into effect.
This is like me saying I have a bucket of guns that are illegal in your state but legal in mine. You come to my state and take the guns back to yours. Who broke the law?
Well that’s a really bad example you gave because gun laws explicitly cover that exact case federally. This is more like book banning. Books are banned in your state, not mine, you come and buy them here and take them back there.
Or fireworks. Many states have laws against selling fireworks to state residents, but all you need to do is cross a border or have an out of state license and you can buy them just fine.
Good luck trying to find any rational in these legislations, there is none. I can still search for “sexy naked sex” and get thousands of explict image results from google in FL. The laws are not protecting kids, but they are embarrassing legal aged adults and putting sites and creators that previously tried to cooperate out of business.
Edit - hell, the fact reddit and X are somehow exempt should say everything. Sites that kids would visit for totally non-explicit purposes and end up exposed to top trending titties.
SPEZ loves musk, so that makes sense.
Easier to target the few dozen major sources than the millions of users for now. But I agree wholeheartedly with the premise. They’re not setting up a shop in Florida. They’re in entirely different places around the world and Floridians are virtually knocking on their door and taking their digital packages with them back to Florida. Why would the onus be on the server to police the laws local to each client?
More like you see a request coming in from FL and you send them there
Don’t request shit you aren’t allowed to have. My state doesn’t ban me from sending it to you, yours bans you from having it. Tf do I care about your state laws. I don’t live there.
Pornhub blocked Texas day one
the companies/sites itself can block the site from being acessed from florida though if they choose. yea if it accesible from florida, they have to follow the legislation there.
block the site from being acessed from florida though if they choose
How? I do not think we know of a reliable way, DNS blocking get bypassed by alternative DNS ( and ISP probably do not have per state DNSes) , IP blocking get bypassed via VPN, etc. They can say they did put in place something but it is like puttimg a fence without walls around, it is just symbolic.
yea if it accesible from florida, they have to follow the legislation there
Why?
They conduct business in Florida. Their customers aren’t porn watchers, but people who buy ad space. They could stop selling ads in Florida, but they won’t.
Because they’re serving users in Florida, so they must abide by laws relating to servicing customers there.
I’d argue it’s on the state to figure that out (for better or worse). My site is on a globally connected network, if you don’t want your citizens doing something, you figure it out. It’s not my job.
Well true, but look at the EU.
“Cost of doing business”
Only when it comes to policing morality. When it comes to gun violence, fuck them children; they are on the own.
- Ronnie De Santis
fuck them children
literally, i suppose, in the case of the republicans
or child marriages (legal pedophila), or protecting pedophiles, then they literally fuck the children
He’ll be running for higher office very soon. He’s been in at least one abhorrent headline a week for months. Hope they find the CSAM on his laptop soon so I can stop hearing about this incompetent asshole
LoL STUPID LIBTARD! Republicans LOVE CSAM! Just look at how they Treat Jeffrey Epstein and his BEST FRIEND Donald J Trump!
It was planted by evil sick democrats
desantis had his chance with the presidency, he has to be looking for US senate.
