Edit: I don’t drink alcohol, it’s just the best way to describe it. From comments I’ll be going on a low carb diet, thank you all.

Explanation: male, 38, 130 pounds. Skinny, low muscle mass but have a beer keg belly.

My day is 7am wake up. Get kids to school. Work until 5. Get kids from school. Cook, shower and then I’m exhausted AF.

I’m semi fit? I’m a mechanic professionally and spring til summer I mountain bike regularly. So my calves are monsters.

But would like… basic at home sit ups. Push ups etc like on a Saturday, would that help at all?

  • protist@mander.xyz
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    3 months ago

    You’ve gotten a lot of advice on here, but I don’t think I’ve seen this…are you able to “suck in your gut” if you try hard and it improves how it looks? If so, it might not even be visceral fat, but just poor muscle tone in your abdominal area. If this is it, then core strength exercises are the way to go. Practice sucking in that gut more and more until it becomes the default, and strengthen your abs and obliques.

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      I can suck it in, yes. And obviously it gets smaller the less bloated I am too (I’m lactose intolerant but live in WI and cheese is life)

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        Is there any chance that you have dysmorphia, not a gut? 130 at 5’7" for a guy sounds pretty thin, even if out of shape, and the description of your diet sounds like you are certainly eating to maintain only 130, not a metabolism thing. Husband is 5’9 and said he was skinny at 145, I am same height and was skinny at 125, like really very slender. So we are close to your height and think you probably want more lean mass not less fat.

        I do stand by the previous advice, something vigorous in the morning and heavy weights as often as possible. There are a couple of things you have to prioritize so they will happen. Exercise is one of them. Besides the 5am runs, I have done 9pm gym sessions, 5:30 am jazzercise, find the time and don’t let go of it. Once it’s a habit you will feel better on a workout day than an off day.

        But you may have to eat more, not less, and lift to get the result you want.

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    you don’t even have to work out.

    you can get there simply with diet.

    that said, dieting doesn’t target where the fat comes from.

    Core strength training (like sit ups, push ups, etc,) will help with muscle definition, and that can improve the appearance, but if you break down how much say, a pound of body fat is in excercise vs how much that pound is in hambergers… well. restricting calories will always be more effective for weight loss.

    has your doctor said you need to lose weight? 130 pounds sounds not-overweight.

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      I know OP posted a specific question, but don’t forget that working out is incredibly good for your physical and mental health. You’ll feel stronger and more mentally resilient, and you can get rid of a surprising number of body pains.

      You’ll also increase your energy levels, as counterintuitive as that seems.

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    Are you 5’3"? I don’t mean that to be offensive I am genuinely asking. I haven’t weighed anywhere near 130 since I was maybe 12?

    Do you want a six pack or do you just want the belly bulge to go away?

    Every little bit helps. Generally speaking if you can work a few push ups and sit ups into your daily routine it will likely have more effect than doing an hour long dedicated work out once a week.

    Start out with 10 sit ups every morning right when you wake up and do 10 every night before you hop in bed. Add more as you get comfortable or do them periodically throughout the day.

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        I cannot fathom being 130 pounds again. I’ve been over 200 for so long I can’t even imagine how much more nimble you must be lol.

        Well hey congrats on the metabolism. I know it can be inconvenient how much you gotta eat n all that, but trust me it beats the alternative. My brother is a massive stoner and he eats like an elephant, but he’s always skinny as twig. I eat like half of what he eats and I’m a hefty slab of meat.

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          idk, ive gotten made fun of my whole life for being skinny. this also prevents me from gaining muscle mass you know. like…if want to buy a watch, i have to get the smallest watch possible for my wrists. and im not too nimble anymore. almost 40 so my joints are all breaking haha.

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            Maybe it’s time to start smoking some pot. Jk jk.

            Don’t tell me 40 is when the joints start breaking. That’s right around the corner for me.

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      Are you 5’3"? I don’t mean that to be offensive I am genuinely asking. I haven’t weighed anywhere near 130 since I was maybe 12?

      I’m also stuck on this guy’s weight and him saying that it includes a beer belly. Not to be judgemental, it’s just fascinating to hear the details about different body types. I’m on the taller side and am just a few pounds shy of double OPs weight.

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        I had the class record for most sit ups in 60 seconds at one point in my life lol. I think it was 43. I probably couldn’t do 43 sit ups in an hour at this point in my life… I should probably start working out again lol

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    3 months ago

    CICO

    Calories in <<< calories out

    You can lose your beer belly sitting on a sofa all day doing nothing, just as long as you’re intaking less calories than you burn.

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    Do strict keto, the majority of a beer belly is water which bonds with fat at a 3:1 ration so when you’re burning fat as your primary fuel you’ll piss half of it out in the first month without any change in physical activity.

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    A beer belly, despite the name, is not exactly from beer. A beer belly isn’t specifically from the caloric spikes associated with heavy beer drinking (where a certain amount of alcohol for a certain inebriation is accompanied by a massive intake of simple carbs compared to liquor). It’s due in part by genetics. It’s called visceral fat, meaning it’s intertwined with your torso’s organs and muscles. The concern here, particularly when beer-bellied people are heavy enough to show notable fat between their knees, elbows, and faces, is there’s likely fat/cholestoral buildup in the circulatory system. The beer belly is a heart attack predictor (but please understand overall weight is part of that indicator, not just location of fat). Some people are prone to adding fat relatively evenly across their body while some are prone to a beer belly. This variance in fat distribution is why skin-pinch based BMI tests are not accurate for health (testing arm skin misses beer bellies) and why weight/height BMI charts aren’t either (can categorize distributed-fat risks a little too closely to beer bellied fat).

    As for a solution, I support low-carb diets as you’ve indicated you’ll try. They come with risks and peculiarities. As someone with sizable forearms and calves but about 40lbs of beer belly, keto has worked great for weight loss. The consequence of not being careful with eating (counting carbs but not calories to types of fat) is my cholestoral is still high when I do keto stints.

    As you consider a low carb diet, I want to point out some misconceptions for keto, since that’s mostly what you’ll find. Atkins and Weight Watchers are close to keto. Paleo has a similar major component by prohibiting simple processed grain (white flour) but isn’t the same otherwise. It’s not a high protein diet - eat a normal amount. It’s not a high fat diet - higher than the sugar industry-funded diet studies blaming fats will recommend, but still a normal amount. It does push you to choose better fats (nuts, avocado) rather than bad fats (bacon, butter) but fats fare a little better as a snack than proteins.

    A major misconception is that fats make you fat and dietary cholestoral gives you coronary cholestoral. Both are indirectly related by directly false. Your belly is not stuffed with butter and cashew oil. It’s stuffed with human fat. Fat is a category, not a particular substance. Your body has to convert food into body fat. When you eat lots of sugars or simple carbs (which quickly turn into sugar in your stomach), your body is happy to waste energy converting the other food into body fat because you’re rapidly adding energy (sugar) to your blood. While sugar highs aren’t exactly real, sugar crashes absolutely are. It’s why a big pasta meal can leave you hungry in an hour. So what if you stop eating sugar and simple carbs? You can’t put walnuts in your bloodstream. Your body has to take that fat and convert it into body fat, and then that body fat gets converted into blood sugar. It’s a lengthy process that costs a lot of energy. It takes a week of dedication to make it work. When you get ketosis in full swing, your body will fuel itself with body fat as it takes time to convert dietary fat into body fat for later. Similarly for dietary cholestoral, you can’t take egg yolks and coat your arteries. Your personal cholestoral is produced by your body and is related more to total dietary calorie intake, dietary proportion of saturated fats, and genetic disposition for fat distribution.

    Personally, a major benefit from keto is simply being able to confidently turn down all sugar and simple carbs. Beer, cake, cookies, sugary drinks, chips, bread, ice cream, and candy. I can easily convince myself that a little treat won’t hurt in a non-keto month but I have poor self control. A little becomes a lot. Part of that is because I’m “cleaning up” carby foods I abstained form during a keto month. But on keto? It’s an easy rule to follow since I’m as happy with cheddar as I am with ice cream. While I’ll come off for a few months to a year, the monthly keto cycles make my weight chart look like a slinky going down stairs.

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      Great writeup!

      my cholestoral is still high when I do keto stints.

      bad fats (bacon, butter)

      If you don’t mind me asking, how long are your keto sessions, and which part of your cholesterol is high? Just LDL?

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        For my most successful keto run, it was 6 months of picking one weekend per month to party on beer and simple carbs (supposed to focus on whole grains monthly). I had places to go, foods to experience. But I went from 235 to 195. Using a whole weekend to carb up all the wrong ways ties into me using this diet somewhat carelessly but still effectively. Carbing smartly would smooth out the weight loss but, instead, my chart looks like a slinky falling down stairs. After I hit the bottom for my big day, I gained about half back in the following year. I’d like to get a 3+ month run started in a few weeks. I started Jan 1 but work trips tripped me up, sending me to places where it was impossible to go carb free.

        From what I remember, the bad cholesterol was high and good was average. My blood pressure reduced somewhat over that 6 months, although the dramatic weight loss also promoted more physical activity. I didn’t really add exercise, but I was able to do all the random daily stuff for longer before overheating.

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    The fact that you describe yourself as skinny and low weight suggests that this is not about calories. Do you have a high carb diet? That tends to cause fat to collect in the midsection. If you’ve ever seen starving children in Africa, you may have noticed that a lot of them have a similar stomach bulge, despite being clearly malnourished. It’s from their diet that’s high in grains.

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    I think the conventional wisom is diet is more important than exercise in losing weight, although I think most people would recommend working out once a week regardless if you would lose weight or not, basically any working out would be positive if you aren’t at all, it couldn’t hurt to do sit ups and push ups and see where that takes you.

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    What you’re talking about would help, but not as much or as quickly as you’d like.

    As others have said, changing your diet would help much more. Beer bellies are correctly called beer bellies because of all the carbs.

    Don’t try to change too much at once. This is preventative, and not a major emergency, so you can be a bit kinder to yourself. At first, merely reduce your intake of unhealthy foods. Completely eliminate them later on. Wean yourself off things rather than trying to go cold turkey. Dieting is very much a mental game. When you get used to eating less unhealthy crap, there’s a good chance you’ll crave it less.

    Don’t eat mindlessly out of habit or boredom; ask yourself if you’re genuinely hungry, and if there’s a healthier option available (and make sure there is. When you go grocery shopping, buy more healthy snacks to make up for the junk you’ll be buying less of).

    You’re very smart for paying attention to this now. It’s much, much easier to adjust your diet now than it is to try and correct things once your weight has become a serious problem.

    Lastly, I’m no expert. Search “diet plan for beginners” for more suggestions. Talking to your doctor wouldn’t hurt, either, especially if you’ve got a condition we’re not aware of.

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    if you stick to your workouts and train to failure, your muscles will grow.

    however to eliminate fat, you don’t exercise. you eat less. when you are eating below caloric maintenance, your body makes up the difference in fat. you can’t control where the fat comes from. you just have to maintain that for a long time and it’ll go away. everyone stores fat differently. some in legs, some in stomach, etc.

    but you cannot exercise away body fat. it’s like 80/20 diet exercise

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      Personal anecdote here: I run 40km/week so that I don’t have to be so picky with my diet. I’m offsetting about 2,400cal from my weekly intake.

      That said, I need to be careful sometimes because my appetite can surge and I can easily break even and even surpass being in a deficit. Its just a matter of being aware of how much I’m eating in general and adapting to appetite changes.

      That said, when I want a pizza I’m gonna smash that pizza down my gullet lol

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        I run a half marathon 1-2 times a month, and the costco poutine (2000+ calories) really hits different when it’s guilt free

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      A closer look at physical activity and metabolism

      You can’t easily control the speed of your basal metabolic rate, but you can control how many calories you burn through physical activity. The more active you are, the more calories you burn. In fact, some people who seem to have a fast metabolism are probably just more active — and maybe fidget more — than others.

      To burn more calories, the Physical Activity Guidelines for Americans recommends the following:

      Aerobic activity. As a general goal, aim for at least 30 minutes of moderate physical activity every day. If you want to lose weight, maintain weight loss or meet specific fitness goals, you may need to exercise more.

      Moderate aerobic exercise includes activities such as brisk walking, biking, swimming and mowing the lawn.

      Vigorous aerobic exercise includes activities such as running, heavy yardwork and aerobic dancing.

      Strength training. Do strength training exercises for all major muscle groups at least two times a week. Strength training can include use of weight machines, your own body weight, heavy bags, resistance tubing or resistance paddles in the water, or activities such as rock climbing.

      No magic bullet

      Don’t look to dietary supplements for help in burning calories or losing weight. Products that claim to speed up metabolism usually don’t live up to their claims. Some may cause bad side effects.

      https://www.mayoclinic.org/healthy-lifestyle/weight-loss/in-depth/metabolism/art-20046508

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        The only thing that helps lose weight is something that makes you not want to eat. ADHD meds do that for instance. Those “miracle” drugs that cost half a salary do that. You can’t chow down on fastfood and lose weight a the same time

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    I agree with the comment saying that 130lbs doesn’t sound overweight, unless you’re 5’0 or under. Does your belly look obviously big to you in photos, or has anyone else ever mentioned it? Your perspective when you look down at your belly will make it look larger to you, so it might only be you that sees your belly as too big.

    Keep in mind as well that in any photos of men you see who are body building, they have often dehydrated themselves to make their muscles stand out more. If you’re properly hydrated you’re never going to look like that, even if you exercise every day.

    But strengthening your core muscles is really good for your back, so it’s probably not a bad idea to do sit ups and push ups.

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    You don’t have to work out at all. Just eat clean and don’t drink. It helps if you use a calorie tracker, so you know what you’re taking in numerically.

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      Yeah, I’m going tks tart tracking calories and carbs. I shouldn’t have to adjust my diet too much. Probably cut down on breads the most. I love bread. And I love cheese

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        In did keto for a while and also started strength training.

        I did really well and went from about 270 to 184. I’ve since gone back up because i stopped everything sure to reasons.

        I’m not here to recommend keto though. (Not against it but damn is it expensive!)

        Why i bring it up is that i had to look at the nutrition label on everything

        Doing that for more than a year really helped me notice how many calories are in things, and that theres can be surprising differences between different brands of the same thing.

        Some beef jerky could be 2 or 3 times the calorie counts of others just because of extra ingredients(it’s almost always extra sugar) even when its the same serving size/package

        Just start looking at the options you are considering purchasing and you can make better choices without even using a calculator, you learn then which brands of which things are better for you and that will help without even changing what you are eating.

        Kind of a nice nice way to ease into changing your diet if you don’t actually start with changing the things you eat, just the versions of them

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          damn is it expensive

          What part was expensive? We’re you getting organic veggies?

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            Meat and fats are expensive. Not having enough variety of foods that excite you will make it incredibly hard for people to stay on it, or so i was led to believe

            In order to succeed you need enough variance to stay with it, from what i remember reading before doing it the single most common reason anyone fails a diet is because most diets that have restrictions fail to provide enough variety to keep people satisfied. Something about diminishing returns and how we are built to crave a variety of foods so that our ancient ancient ancestors didnt die from losing a single source of nutrients

            I will admit, there are a lot more options of keto specific foods than when i was on it.

            The bread products ive seen for keto are amazing compared to the dense heavy eggy elastic loafs i was able to find