Fuck yeah, here’s hoping she’s like MacKenzie Scott ( bezos’ ex) and takes half his money and donates it all away.
Don’t donate it, buy more politicians to do good things.
Like when trump kicks it from too many hamberders and adderall, we can buy Vance to come back to the light?
There’s a lot to choose from
This is what happens when you vilify men. 41% of young men (aged 18 - 29) voted for Trump in 2020, while a whopping 56% voted for him in 2024.
It turns out that calling any guys who aren’t socialists or liberals Nazis and incels doesn’t win you votes. Who’d have thunk it?
This isn’t as relevant as you think it is.
Remember not to feed the trolls y’all
It turns out that calling any guys who aren’t socialists or liberals Nazis
If you vote for a fascist, I’m gonna call you a fascist 😭😭
These so called “men” are manchild Americans who see being asked to not even take responsibility for their actions, but simply to recognize the possible consequences of their actions, as being “vilified”. It’s not our fault they’re so weak minded that they crumple under the slightest criticism and flock to the first strongman character who tells them it’s everyone else’s fault their fee fees are hurt.
An a non-American who lived there for ages, you lot are toxic.
Only men that I would vilify would be the men who say women should not have rights anyways :p
Divorce and/or testosterone supplementation roting brains
Hah! Imagine all these unregulated supplements causing neurotoxicity, later to be worsened by Trump defunding the FDA.
The FDA is too strong of a brand, they won’t defund or eliminate, they’ll just replace entire staff with sycophants and lower standards so that all kinds of snake oil (that administration has a “taste” of) becomes “FDA Approved” so the AI can sell it to incels on twitter and facebook. And ultimately when editing is “FDA APPROVED” then NOTHING is FDA Approved. The next 4 - 20 years are going to continue to be a push to break confidence in American institutions, to make America a weaker and weaker player (and a bigger joke) on the international stage. All so that they have less influence in world affairs (I.e. Ukraine, Israel, etc).
How to alienate your daughter:
Become a Musk atear.
Daughter? Sounds like major feminine energy
Narcissists don’t care about things like that unless it boosts their ego.
The fact that a load of billionaires are now embracing the far right to protect their arses sure seems like a familiar theme.
It’s crazy that they could lose 90% of everything and still have more than 99.999% of the population of the planet, yet they keep fighting to make sure they have more and more and even more.
It’s a mental illness. They have to have more power, if not money…
I think the mistake here is thinking it’s about “things” or material objects. Most people interface with money at a basic level: you can buy a new jacket, reliable car, a sizeable home, etc. However, at the level that you are with these billionaires, it’s no longer about having things or owning things. It’s about having more power to do things.
For example, there’s are some fun little calculators where you can calculate all the things that some could spend their money on https://neal.fun/spend/ https://www.spend-elon-fortune.com/
At this point it’s an imperialist kind of mindset, where you want to own multiple corporations, properties, and show it off to your wealthy colleagues that you are the best at X. It’s probably not unlike how professional athletes will destroy their bodies with steroids to become the best in the world, just the negatives are externalized.
“To speak of ‘limits to growth’ under a capitalistic market economy is as meaningless as to speak of limits of warfare under a warrior society.”
- Murray Bookchin
I am speculating that all the ridiculing and questioning Mark Zuckerberg’s masculinity over the years made him so insecure that he turned to the manosphere. We only have ourselves to blame.
He’s just sucking up to the people currently in charge, that is all this is
I have only seen him be referred as a robot, which is fucked up to robots.
Lizards too
He’s right about one thing: There is a serious lack of actual masculinity among our leaders.
Most public figures who try to present some form of “masculinity” are just desperate and petty, willing to sacrifice nothing to earn their status, and eager to degrade others to look better by comparison.
A real man produces more than he needs, but takes only that much and ensures the rest goes to those who are less able to sustain themselves. They protect the defenseless, elevate those who are ignored, and invest in a future they won’t personally live to enjoy.
Show me a real man among you. It’s not femininity keeping you from finding one. It’s your own greed and hubris.
When I was in the military, the best Marines weren’t the ones who could lift the most or run the fastest (though sometimes they did), they were the ones who stayed up late writing up their junior Marines for awards, the ones who skipped their own lunch to teach their squad or platoon how to perform better, and just generally the ones who went out of their own way to improve everyone else’s well-being around them, and all the while keeping their mouth shut up how much they were doing for everyone else.
This comment makes me want to read “the way of kings” again…
Kaladin is a G. Currently on Oathbringer. I enjoy a good fantasy series, just hate when I run out of books.
The whole master-apprentice thing is not really found in America anymore. It is lowkey there in academia, but there is so much admin work that even good PIs struggle. I have not really seen it in my little private industry experience. And I have no public experience to comment.
It does exist in some trades still but that’s also becoming more rare. My father was a farmer and he was always willing to be a mentor to guys he knew who wanted to get into that industry and was willing to help out his neighbor farmers if they needed help. When he died about 10 years ago, all the local farmers came out to help and they helped my family harvest his last crop at no charge to us. Wish that was the way it was in other private sector industries.
I wish I were able to achieve even 0.01% of this, I am just born unable.
It’s ok. It’s going to suck. Real men and women could provide for you. Not that you’re not a real woman/man, but in context.
Thanks, but sadly I think there are no real men/women near me.
there’s no such thing as a “real man”… it’s all just roles society has placed upon different genders….
A real man produces more than he needs
And I’m an imaginary man producing just what I need. 👻
The answer is often more complex
The answer is clearly 42i
There is a serious lack actual masculinity among our leaders.
The problem is many people hear these words and instantly jump to toxic masculinity. Which you’re obviously not advocating for, but neither of us are “many people”.
Masculinity has been defined as toxic by default for many.
Yup. It is in most or at least many cases.
Real men are also able to access their emotions, express their needs(both emotional and physical), develop and share empathy, and nurture deep relationships within their community.
Though i would argue none of what either of us said has to do with gender.
Relentlessly locking your own humanity away behind a strong man facade built on shame is one of the biggest reason these fuckers become so hateful and make “manliness” seem like such a putrid prospect.
Either this comment is also misogynistic as all hell, or my mother was very masculine.
Masculinity isn’t just for men. Just like femininity isn’t just for women. A healthy person has a mix of these qualities, along with many others that we don’t tend to align with a specific gender.
When I say “a real man”, I don’t mean it as an objective assessment to stick a person neatly into one of two piles. That’s not how gender works, and it’s not how being a person in general works.
What I mean is that if you’re indulging in behavior like belittling other people for fun or “cool points”, or using your power or physical strength to get what you want, and calling that “being a man”, then your idea of manhood is a mirage. If you want to aspire to something based on your male gender identity, aspire to humility, vigilance, and service to others. Those are great qualities that anyone can have, but they’re especially important for men if we’re gonna have a respectful and productive society.
It is still misogynistic to say that women who manifest those behaviors are particularly masculine. Those are adult human behaviors.
I don’t know a lot of adult humans who behave that way of either gender.
A real man produces more than he needs, but takes only that much and ensures the rest goes to those who are less able to sustain themselves.
A big part of the issue is men constantly being told that they are responsible for everything. So this attitude would only make the problem worse.
This is why a positive kind of masculinity also needs to reject patriarchy and capitalism.
“Producing more than you take” doesn’t have to mean money. (Though I did mean money in my original comment, cuz Zuck is a greedy monster.)
Just listening to people more than you demand to be listened to. Doing chores that you know your friends and family hate. Sharing your knowledge. Cooking. Fixing things. There are so many ways you can contribute to your group that don’t take money, and don’t even take much time.
Being financially responsible and helping people when you can is important, don’t get me wrong.
But seeing your worth in purely financial terms is really limiting and unhealthy for the individual, and also tends to create perverse hierarchies inside of families.
Right but take what you just said to it’s logical conclusion. Why should only men have those responsibilities? All you’ve really done is create a different, nicer patriarchy, that still expects men to conform to specific gender roles and still expects women to conform to specific gender roles. Consider the inverse, all the people who physically can’t produce more than they require to survive, who need additional attention or care, through no fault of their own. Can those people not be men?
You’ve described just a generally good person, and realistically you’ve described more women than you have men. The goal should be to get rid of the idea that certain responsibilities are reserved for certain genders completely.
Those aren’t unique to men though (except your last paragraph), how is that not general advice?
I think our advice to men should be more:
“Your problems matter”
Or
“Standing on your own two feet (and autonomy) is especially important to most men, so we should change our economy to support that”
I’ve noticed most advice given to men usually boils down to more responsibility or expectation instead of actually giving them something like male specific support programs.
Probably, but he’s assuredly been cucked for years.
I like the thought of masculine and feminine energies wafting around like medieval miasmas.
This guy is smart.
Up next: the return of the humoral theory of medicine!
All these feminine airs have my cholera up. I’m going to go poison myself and barf a lot.
Make sure to avoid mustard!
Zuck: “we never let gender play a role in our hiring process.”
Also Zuck: “yeah, we need to hire more men.”
It’s the old “Male is normal, Female is special” logical fallacy, he only wants to hire people who’d get hired under “Normal” circumstances
I don’t think he even cares. He wants to appeal to MAGA’s bosses.
In 4 years, if Dems take back power, he will make a vibrant speech about the need for diversity and to tackle fake news.
Agreed, he’s just picking which side he thinks is currently winning the cultural war… and “Woke” being universally considered a bad thing does point to the Right winning that war, but… there are Leftist Arguments against Woke as well so not really.
(Replace the word “Woke” with “Rainbow Capitalism” and you have the Leftist Argument against it)
What a fucking joke, he wouldn’t know masculine energy if it roughly penetrated him from behind whilst lovingly whispering in his ear what a good boy he was.
Well, he’s already divorced from reality
He’s just playing up to Trump and the MAGAts.
I would speculate the opposite. I imagine he always believed this shit but was being politically correct (i.e., saying things to appease the public that he didn’t actually believe in)… This is common enough in the tech sector.
(But if course you could be right. Only people who hang out with him would know.)
Zuck is married?!
His wife has a facility whose staff comes out and yells at you if you park in front. On a normal st with street parking.
Somehow this is less surprising than him being married in the first place.
Terrible people marrying terrible people. Got it.
For over 10 years at least
Is Zuck getting divorced?
I don’t think so, but don’t let that stop you from shooting your shot if your believe you can make him a happy man.
LOL I would never! Unless it’s to get close enough to et tu brutus him
Dude loves Romans that much he would die proud I think.
There has got to be better sexbot models out there.
