I don’t think I’ve seen the old hard-R written out in quite some time. Let nobody say Musk and his indentured servant team have never accomplished anything. They just accomplish the bad things.
Lol that’s sort of true. I’m having a bit of a viseral reaction. I couldn’t quite put my finger on why, but I think you’re right. I just hadn’t seen it in so long.
That’s pretty fucked if you think about it.
Yeah, that’s kinda what led to my comment. I was looking at it thinking how overtly fucked it all was.
When you use a slur, but also proper Grammar, it becomes harder to report.
I mean many use the n word between each other so that might be why an auto flag isn’t implemented ?
Not with a hard R they don’t.
If you ban one you also ban the other. The -a is a respelling of -er, basically the same word.
Just admit you’re not American and have never stepped foot in America. Everyone - even the racists! - knows the difference.
Where did you get the idea that i was american ? Etymologically, the -a variant is a respelling of the -er which i believe is the original. This respelling is due to the “ghetto” spelling like gangaster->gangsta, same thing different pronunciation.
Exactly my point. You’re not American and don’t understand the cultural significance and should shut the fuck up about something you know nothing about.
Yeh, yeh, nop. Read a book, that might help you, a lot.
Sweetheart you’re commenting on American cultural issues with zero knowledge of American culture, trying to claim nigger and nigga as being the same thing.
You need to read a fucking book and sit your ass out of things that don’t concern you, not me.
Oh yeah is that a rule you just invented?
It’s a respelling banning one without banning the other doesn’t make sense…
It only makes no sense if you completely remove any cultural context.
We don’t exist in a vacuum.
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… no. Also, white people are not victims of institutional racism. Cracker is, at worst, a mild insult.
Where is there anything to do with white ? I was talking about why n-a/er isn’t banned and how saying -er should be banned while keeping the -a variant doesn’t make sense. I am for freespeech to me nothing should be banned like that, i am by no means advocating for the cracker one.
wow, so surprised. And after it being a complete tool for getting Trump elected too. Flabbergasted, I say.
I had to check if this wasn’t leaopardsatemyface.
The irony of the dark mode being used as well
Why do people even get offended by cracker lmaooo. That’s such a whack front.
They should already be offended by someone using ‘fuck’
Being able to disregard being called “cracker” is itself a form of white privilege. As a white guy, I don’t have to care if some black person expresses hatred against me because I have power that they do not (e.g. they’re not likely to act on their hatred because if the police are called they’re likely to take my side, etc.). The implied threat is not credible.
In contrast, black people do not have the freedom to ignore white people calling them the n-word, because historically that has been accompanied by a real risk of attack. The likelihood may have waned over the years, but that implied threat remains credible. (That goes double for the fact that, as casual/mainstream use of the word has fallen out of favor, those still willing to use it are all the more extreme/violent-tempered.)
Being able to disregard being called “cracker” is itself a form of white privilege
No it means I’m not offended by every stupid shit some cringelord says online.
This is exactly how systemic racism works. White people weren’t kept as slaves and called ‘cracker’ as a label. Black people were kept as slaves and called the N word as a label. The implication, via the word, is that they were less-than-human. We’re just about back to the time period where lawmakers openly use the N word again. I’m in Canada, yet even from here I can see it happening, and it’s terrifying for me, so I can’t imagine what it’s like for American people of colour, or women, or 2SLGBTQIA+, etc.
If you are one of those people, whomever is reading this, just know you have allies.
As another lifelong beneficiary of white privilege, thank you for pointing this out. I never considered this perspective.
THIS!!! THIS IS WHY YOU NEED EDUCATION AND SAFETY! PEOPLE WANT TO LEARN AND DO BETTER!
Let me add one. People that don’t look like us think before they speak in meetings. They are scrutinized constantly and often afraid. We can ask a colleague “hey not straight white guy, you’re interested or expert in XYZ, and haven’t shared your input, what do you think?”
Making space can be that micro and so impactful.
Same with Alpha Snowflakes who get triggered by words like cis.
Which makes zero sense. Because cis is exactly what he claims to be. It’s not pejorative to say someone is a heterosexual?
I have used it sarcastically on news@world and got it mod deleted.
I guess it’s white fragility masked as fairness/equity.
It means you’re originally from Florida, so…
How does this work? It’s filtered but still visible?
I think its hidden with a message that it contains something sensitive and you actively have to click on show to show it. Not sure though as I’m not on Xitter anymore.
Ah that would make sense
every day it gets more incredible to me that people are so fucking addicted to fake validation and fake likes from fake friends that they still use fucking twitter
Yeah! I like my fake validation and fake likes from anonymous friends over here on lemmy. Fake friends are overrated.
the secret is i don’t think anyone on lemmy is my friend. i find everyone here frustrating and annoying! the system works!
Damn,… Ruffalo looks young in this picture… then I realize, he was and we all got fuvking old. This was 13 years ago!!!
Yep! Wait until you have kids that are older than your co-workers.
Source: My kids are older than many of my co-workers. It sucks.
The only way to fight it is to stay fit as fuck. Oh and retire early like I did. Takes some of the pain out of getting older!
Wait how do you have coworkers as a retired person?
Not really. I mean I volunteer at the school where I worked, so I still count them as my coworkers… But since I don’t get paid, I guess technically they aren’t. But what would you call them?
Exactly my plan my friend! Why bother grinding if you can’t afford anything? Better grind less and live more.
I did that and “retired” to a ski resort in my mid 20s and pursued snowboarding instead. I’ve worked a variety of odd jobs to feed the habit and I’m lucky to be talented enough to be flowed gear.
If working a corporate 40 hr a week job that requires a degree doesn’t pay enough for me to move out of my moms house in NY and get an apt of my own somewhere nearby then fuck it, I’ll take some nonsense jobs and move to where I want and leave the grind entirely. My life is their $20k vacation. I’ve had more powder days than those rats in the race.
Agreed. I basically took early retirement–I’m 55.
My pension is small since I bailed early, but I have zero debt, and very few bills, so I get by just fine. My kids are grown. My house and cars are paid off. Property taxes here are very low.
Sure, I won’t be traveling the world, but the park next to my house is beautiful, and I can see the mountains from my front porch. All is good.
Good luck to ya, mate!
…hey. Stop that.
Respect the rules! We all pretend it’s still pretend 2005 was 4 years ago and 2014 was last year.
Bullshit! 1995 was 4 years ago. 2004 was last year.
*cries in fake friend*
There’s a pretty big difference between drinking mild poisons at a Nazi bar and a local bar. Zoomed out, sure, drinking alcohol at all can be consistent pretty dubious, but the difference between the two scenarios remains.
Alcohol is a mild poison. Just sayin
That is literally how I described it, yes.
The dumbass kid at work “I just use it for the art profiles I follow.” Not worth it kid, not worth it at all.
Ah yes… “art”.
He does a ton of digital art, so I generally believe him on that. He’s also pretty asexual so I don’t think he’s looking at porn. He’d be more likely to be looking at Fortnite skins.
Twitter is a weird platform for that
Yeah, naughtymachinima is a better platform for watching Fortnite skins
Exactly my thoughts
IDK How to tell you this, but fascist racists own everything and are planning to kill a whole bunch of people soon. I really think people are under estimating the severity of the vision these people have for the world.
Can you quantify soon here? I agree with you that they don’t have good intentions, but I think that framing it as like, a planned genocide is not accurate. More realistically what can happen is more systemic injustices and consolidations of power to prevent anyone from resisting.
To start with, their plan for mass deportation probably already counts as a displacement genocide. There will be thousands of deaths from it leaving aside everything else wrong with it.
There are also approximately 3 million trans people in the US. Every single one of them is in danger as the fascists’ chosen scapegoat.
Why do you think that?
Rwandan genocide? The Holocaust? Israeli’s war on Palestinian. Armenian genocide? US chattel slavery? Tulsa Race Massacre? China and how they threat neighbors? South African Apartheid?
Not much of a news junkie are you?
History, and a soupçon of paranoia
more like a soup ladle am I right
Soupçon: A very small amount; a hint; a trace, slight idea; an inkling.
Thank you for the new word, I like it.
I was thinking it was soup can for a moment. Then I realized the C had it’s pants down and it dawned on me that it was a French word.
kill a whole bunch of people soon
If you don’t couch this a whole lot, it undermines the seriousness of what is actually about to happen.
Anything less than tens of millions dead falls short of your comment. And that’s likely not the reality.
Is the holocaust really your measurement for the meaning of “killing a bunch of people?” I don’t think things have to get all that bad to be justified in saying “a bunch of people died.”
When you look into where contemporary right wing ideologies comes from, and what journalists are reporting on in online right wing spaces, a holocaust doesn’t seem out of the question. The Turner Diaries is worth looking into. Robert Evans is also a pretty informed journalist on the matter.
What are you guys talking about?
Anything less than tens of millions dead falls short of your comment. And that’s likely not the reality.
Trans people, the group currently most targeted for elimination by the right, represent about 1% of the US population. Jewish people in pre-Nazi Germany also represented about 1% of the population.
When Republicans past eliminationist laws meant to persecute trans people, deny them from public life, and kill them by taking away their healthcare, they are committing crimes of the same order as what Germany did in the 1930s.
That is simple historical by-the-numbers truth.
The chilling thing for me is that Nazi Germany was able to accomplish this without the technology and mass surveillance we have today.
It will be a slow boil and they’ll arrest people one at a time for “terrorism” and such. I won’t be surprised to see extremist militias going after people as well.
They won’t even need to use terrorism. Right in Project 2025 is a plan to slowly classify any public existence or acknowledgement of LGBT identities as “pornographic.” And in turn classify showing “pornography” to children is pedophilia and worthy of being put on the sex offender registry. They want to make it so if say, a trans woman, goes out in public and a child sees her, then that is the equivalent of grooming an 8 year old child by showing them pornographic videos. Oh, and they also want to attach the death penalty to crimes of pedophilia.
I didn’t see how that will massively backfire on them at all.
You’re assuming the law will be applied consistently.
1% is 3.8 million people. They’ll likely be ostracized, forced into hiding, and we all know the effects of that.
We’re both describing terrible things, terrible things that are short of hunting people down and loading them into trains.
Your comparison does a disservice to everyone. Setting the bar at the damn holocaust gives our opponents an easy out. “They act like we’re”, “we’re just”, are the natural, easy responses.
Don’t give them easy outs. Things can be less terrible than the actual Holocaust and still be terrible.
They’re talking about rounding up 20 million people and deporting them. Do you really think you can do that without setting up massive camps that match or exceed the scale of anything the Nazis set up? And if you really want to move that many people around, you may end up having to use trains.
Oh, and worse, they have no plan on how to actually deport that many people. The Nazis originally planned to deport all the Jews as well. Yet they quickly found that there simply weren’t enough nations willing to accept all these deportees. Other countries aren’t obligated to accept your deportees.
So you now have millions of people in camps, costing a fortune to maintain, and no where to send these people. That always ends in slavery, death, or death by slavery. Whenever your plan starts with “round up tens of millions of people and put them in camps,” you can guarantee that a massive death toll is going to follow.
And I think your comment here is a hell of a lot more valuable than starting out with “IDK How to tell you this, but fascist racists own everything and are planning to kill a whole bunch of people soon.”
You can’t just skip to the end of the worst case scenario without people blowing you off. I mostly agree with you; I just think that particular messaging is damaging.
I think starting off so dismissive until later in the thread makes it seem very much like you don’t mostly agree and is more damaging to the idea
Maybe I’m unusual here, but if I saw 200 corpses in a big pile, I would think that someone killed a whole bunch of people.
To your point, it’s funny how we frame things depending on the circumstances.
Growing up I always thought the Saint Valentine’s Day Massacre was some huge slaughter where hundreds of people died. Turns out it was seven people. Mobsters, actually, so it could be argued it was “gang violence”, but still. Seven people executed by a rival gang, and it’s a massacre.
At least 37 die, over 800 injured, and over 10000 were left homeless, but Tulsa ignored it for decades, then called it a,“race riot”.
Twenty children and six adults are murdered by a nutter and it’s still not a massacre, but at least it’s “tragic”, which is a step up from the average school shooting, which is normally called “Tuesday”.
Over 45,000 Afghan civilians died from 2001-2021, but that’s not a massacre, just collateral damage.
But that’s over twenty years, of course that’s not a massacre, plus they’re, you know, foreign. Now if 45,000 Americans died in one year, well, that would be different. Except they do, but because they lack insurance coverage. So, you know, that’s their fault for dying of preventable illnesses on account of being poor. That’s not a massacre, just good business.
But one CEO is murdered and it’s a tragedy again
Over 45,000 Afghan civilians died from 2001-2021, but that’s not a massacre, just collateral damage.
But that’s over twenty years, of course that’s not a massacre, plus they’re, you know, foreign. Now if 45,000 Americans died in one year, well, that would be different. Except they do, but because they lack insurance coverage. So, you know, that’s their fault for dying of preventable illnesses on account of being poor. That’s not a massacre, just good business.
And when Israel kills that many Palestinians in one year, college kids get arrested for protesting it while Congress jacks off while rubberstamping another $10 billion of arms sales to Bibi.
I treat people who have twitter accounts the same as I would someone who chain smokes in public areas: you’re part of the mesh that prevents the substrate for nice things to exist.
Hopefully it’s as much of collective social stigma as smoking is soon.
Unclear analogy - is the substrate going through the mesh the process of nice things existing? Maybe I’m thinking of substrate in a chemical sense rather than biological, or I’m just cooked. Is the mesh some sort of filter that allows bacteria to grow on the substrate (host)?
I take it as they’re saying, “you’re part of a framework that prevents the foundation of good things from being.”
Aye. That’s the idea. Even if we’re part of some weakly emergent system and hence exempt from what we normally ascribe to moral imperative, agency or personal accountability (to wit: it’s not technically immoral to just exist and have an account on Twitter, as opposed to just existing and using it as a platform to actively spread hate), tacit participation in it does mean you are part of the structure. Absent any human users, twitter is (even more) valueless.
Revisiting the ‘substrate’ analogy: I used to keep freshwater fish. Twitter/it’s mob reminds me of a poorly maintained undergravel filter; full of poop, and lots of toxins leeching into the water.
It’s simply amazing though how many people don’t want to admit it. I mean they’re not hiding it at all but there’s so many places even here on Lemmy that love to stick their head in the sanding and don’t want to acknowledge how bad it’s gotten.
He’s in the upper echelons of government now. No need to pretend anymore
Meta is even worse.
Even people who were/are on the right are noticing it.
Tom Segura isn’t a great guy, but I saw a clip of one of his podcasts where they were talking about Instagram. Any post anyway related to a Black person is just gonna be filled with comments saying the n word.
As fucked up as it is, TikTok appears to be the only big one that’s removed hate speech for a while now. It’s just become incredibly normalized which is why the wealthy keep gobbling up social media.
They want a race war, a culture war, anything to stop 99% of the population from figuring out the 1% have been fighting a class war for decades.
It’s all a distraction to stop people from talking about why billionaires are fucking over everyone else and we’re not stopping it.
Can you elaborate on ‘Tom Segura isn’t a great guy’? I think he’s funny and I’m wondering if there’s something I’m missing.
It’s not like he’s a giant asshole himself…
But he’s friends with Joe Rogan and agrees with him on a lot of stuff. And has said he enjoys “trolling” even about racial issues.
So he’s at best just tolerable of assholes with extremist views, which is why it was notable even he has pointed out how bad social media is getting.
Tom Segura
Went on a tirade talking about “the poors” after he got told to check in his carry-on on a flight
A guy from South Africa made his app anti-black? Shocking.
Does this comment/joke assume all white South Africans are racist?
No. It simply states that it’s not surprising when one is.
That’s kinda bigoted
It’s bigoted to invade a county and extort them for labor because you believe the native population to be inferior.
I know. It is also bigoted to say you’re not surprised by a white South African being racist. That’s like saying you’re not surprised by an black African American being a criminal.
We had to invent a new term to describe the racism of white south Africans, they’ve earned a little suspicion.
Also, I wouldn’t frame it the way you framed it, but I don’t think it is racist to say “I’m not surprised by a Black American having a criminal record”. Not because Black Americans are predisposed to crime, but because they are targeted by overpolicing and system racism lmao.
Edit: 1/7ish Black American Men have been to prison. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC5996985/#:~:text=We estimate that 3 %25 of,African American adult male population.
No it fucking isn’t
Yes it is. You’re making a judgement about both groups based on the colour of their skin
you’re the guy who said that we can’t say the police is a racist organization because there are black cops. I wouldn’t be too involved in race conversations if I were you tbh.
I admit that one might have been a bad take in hindsight, but my stance is unshakeable on this issue
I’m a white guy from Indiana. And if Elon Musk was from Indiana and someone said, “a guy from Indiana made his app anti-black? Shocking.” I’d be like, “I know, right? This state is full of racist as fuck white people.” I wouldn’t be offended.
But he’s not from Indiana though. The point I’m trying to make is that the commenter posed an unfair stereotype which suggested that white South Africans are proclived to racism even though there are no facts to support that argument. There is however evidence to suggest that Indianans or Idahoans or whatever other white inhabitants of famously racist US states are proclived to racism.
Do you see my point?
You know South Africa had(has?) apartheid, right? Culturally, yes, they are proclived to racism.
edit: yeah it ended in 1990(1994?). Lmao. Within the last 30 years they were an apartheid state.
You’re right, he’s from an even more racist place. So I’m not sure why you think that’s an unfair stereotype when it is a fair one for a U.S. state that never had apartheid or slavery.
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Oh no. White people being the target of bigotry? Welcome to the fucking club that they started.
Just calling out the double standard man. We don’t have to continue a bad practice.
Sir, you are bringing logic to a Lemmy thread where only emotion matters. It doesn’t seem to be going well for you frankly.
I don’t know why i still bother honestly; only to be labelled a fascist/Nazi once they’re done with the downvote bombing. It’s disgusting.
It’s flawed logic. Being kind and civil to one’s oppressors is literally further oppression.
Were you one of those people bitching about the 2020 George Floyd protests, too?
Oh, so the oppressed aren’t allowed to dismantle their oppressors? They must rise above and be civil? They are the ones that must be kind and courteous to those who would subjugate them further?
What kind of bootlicker are you?
Are you fucking dumb?
that they started
Are you being serious lol
Yes.
The white guy who is only rich because of black oppression in South Africa, in fact.
Bro really wants to steal Truth Social’s userbase for more money. He found out that the left is a lot harder to scam.
Aka products of blue State education systems
Aka “brainwashed.”
There’s gotta be a way to own this word in a positive way; like yeah honestly uni did help me clean house on a lot of dirty habits and prejudices in my brain, what’s the issue?
she cute
Lowk
And that’s all she has going for her
likely the case for both, but I was looking at the boopity boooooop not the booop boooooop.
