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    This metaphor has always been poor. Trains are locked on tracks. Harris’s campaign could have steered away from biden and his low approval rating, distance from the voters, and genocide, at any moment she wanted to. She wasnt locked on tracks. Pretending she was so its easy to yell at voters is a really unfortunate takeaway, and dooms the party to continuing to think in ways that will lose. The massive unpopular – historically so even-- incumbent lost. Thats what happened.

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    Except those people tied themselves to the track and started the train themselves… Completely voluntarily.

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    I mean you could also take the “don’t buy from US based corporations for 1 year challenge” starting january 1st 2025. Stock up on any corporate goods you need now then buy nothing for a year.

    The pandemic market rallied because of a bailout after consumer spending plummeted. Would be a shame if the same thing happened and suddenly there was no emergency for a bailout to sail under.

    They won’t have time and energy for persecuting people if the economy is broken.

    Record/pirate a bunch of movies/shows then cancel streaming for a year. Buy any electronics now before the tariffs start. Buy surplus canned food etc. Then see how little you can spend the entire year of 2025. Planning on doing tourist stuff inside the US? Don’t. If you work at a big corporation consider deleting an important email and see what happens.

    Lets fuck around.

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    Why would you waste so many prison slaves?

    Also, why are you all so worried? Surely the cops will protect us! That was the plan after eventually disarming the working class right? Are yall saying that the democratic party was wrong to pursue gun control?

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        Its the DNC’s fault. They ran a masterclass on how to lose to a dementia afflicted fascist clown.

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          its always the democrats fault, a brave take. Harris’ campaign was not good, but Its possible she had no chance even with a perfect campaign. There are far too many comitted nonvoters that are completely offline and don’t watch news.

          The democrats as a party just don’t have the in person networks to reach people. They just send out emails and clock out thinking everyone even has an email account. Job done.

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            Its possible she had no chance even with a perfect campaign.

            I dont think thats a reasonable assumption at all.

            I think you’re just not ready to admit that the campaign had any flaws at all yet.

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    If you are from the US and you criticized people living under authoritarian regimes for not rioting hard enough, this is your time.

    You still have it easy. You won’t be taken into prison for standing with a piece of blank paper. You won’t be beaten with batons and taken into custody for reciting Constitution. Yet. Go ahead before it gets there, and may you never see a true authoritarian horror.

    Otherwise, all your words are not worth a dime.

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        Technically it’s not a full 55% of my countrymen, just 55% of the ones who bothered to vote. I’ll admit that’s not really a meaningful distinction though. Unfortunately, there’s also more of us who want to leave than the rest of the world can reasonably handle. I hope as many marginalized people can get out, because it’s going to be bad, especially for them. But those, like me, who are unlikely to be directly targeted due simply to being lucky enough to be born straight, white, men should probably leave those limited seats for those who truly need to leave.

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        If it’s not gonna happen, more fascist measures will be introduced - without people’s hesitation outside Internet comments.

        A solid organized riot does change the course even for most authoritarian governments, even if they happen to suppress it eventually. Politicians should feel that their position is not as solid as they would like.

        But the further people prefer to not intervene, the more entrenched authoritarians become and more draconian measures are implemented. As such, the government is strongly interested in making people think rioting doesn’t help. This is part of many authoritarians’ playbooks.

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        It will do nothing, and I personally don’t think it should be done. But as a thought experiment it shows that saying other authoritarian countries’ citizens that they just ‘didn’t riot hard enough and this are all to blame’ was a bit wrong

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        Except minority rights (including, but not limited to LGBTQ+, especially T), healthy immigration policy, right to abortion, fair economic policy, environmental policies, and a million other things.

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        Except minority rights, healthy immigration policy, right to abortion, fair economic policy, environmental policies, and a million other things.

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    Organize. Sabotage. General strike. Protest. Political action isn’t one day every four years.

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      I wonder how many fellow lefties work for Xitler’s empire who are planning sabotage ops. As long as the payload wasn’t humans, watching a SpaceX rocket spectacularly fail would put a smile on my face, knowing that silent resistance is in motion

      Turn that bolt just a few degrees to the wrong direction

      Syntax errors? WOMM

      LFG, burn this mother fuckers scam empire to the ground

      We’ll make it to Mars on our terms, once we have a home to return to

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        I had a chance to buy a Tesla. Chose not to. Chose a Volvo instead. All heroes don’t wear capes.

        Hmm. I should buy a cape. Hey Google, remind me to buy a cape.

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      Yup. Robert Reich posted something that ended with “Take a moment to breathe, then let the resistance begin.”

      And like, buddy, I’m sorry to say, if your resistance is only just beginning, then you are resisting the wrong thing and you will be ineffective. You should be fighting the entire empire, not just the unmasked pieces of it.

      The election is your chance to ask for your preferred enemy, but if you don’t get it, your job doesn’t change.

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    Might be a lot smaller than a lever, but if you are a republican don’t stand there empty handed. Grab your dick and start jerking that puppy. This is what you always wanted you dumb sick fuck.

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        Thing is that when things are done well everybody basically wins and when done poorly everyone does poorly. just not in equal measure. maybe he would have a pinkie tied to the rail.

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        Me. I have a sense of building survivors guilt as I watch my LGBTQ+ friends panic. I’m offering them support but I am aware that I can personally avoid being targeted and it pisses me off. Why should I get to be relatively okay while my friends suffer an incoming genocide? The thoughts that come from that feel self destructive. Like hurting myself just to prove I had something to lose. In reality the best thing I think I will be able to do is help my friends under all circumstances and go from there. Maybe join my local Socialist organization to assist in a larger assistance for the coming years. Idk man.

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    Yep. I’m focused on looking after my community/friends who have targets on their back now.

    Other than that I look to republicans and say “alright, this is all you now. Better be perfect!” They shouted and screeched that their way was best. Their god is in the seat. Time to deliver a “great economy”

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      It wasn’t even exactly that. It was MILLIONS of people who voted Democrat previously just sitting this one out. I don’t think there are 15 Million “Gaza or bust” voters so this was just pure ignorance…

      “Trump is horrible, but the Democrats made inflation. I’m not voting for either.” (Conveniently forgetting COVID and the necessary cash injection that helped keep people paying bills on time and kept businesses afloat to be there to rehire when lockdowns ended.) Ignorance…

      Not that it was perfectly executed by any stretch of the imagination, but the alternative was everyone “non-essential” goes broke and businesses everywhere collapse. There was no world where we just didn’t do lockdowns, we don’t have the luxury of hindsight when something new happens obviously. We probably didn’t need the lockdowns because COVID spread regardless :(

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        Yeah, I would be utterly shocked if the Gaza issue lost her that many votes.

        It’s utterly detestable how short voter memory is.

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        Hey, so the 15 million thing isn’t true. That was the number before all of the votes came in. She actually gained votes in battleground states, but lost them in non-battleground states (states that didn’t really matter). Just a heads up. We need to be using facts here (not trying to attack, just trying to get that information out).

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          You’re right but it’s 12 million less than Biden got so your not really establishing anything other than the number was a little less in the final tally. Everything they said is exactly right with 15 million or 12 million.

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        the inflation is worse than that. trump droped rates from obamas 3 or 4 percent to zero before covid. I repeat before the covid emergency which is when you might drop them a percent or so.

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        Hey now, you cannot blame voters. Only rage into the void about Democrats, that’s the only thing that can help. I mean it clearly worked before, right!? /s

        Source: many Lemmy users.

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          Down the street, a guy’s house burned down. Of course, we all blame him for it - and his failure to find a message that resonated with the firefighters, to motivate them to come save the building.

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        There was no world where we just didn’t do lockdowns

        Maybe the world where Trump implemented the pandemic response plan that Obama left for him. But, no, we got Mr. Inject-Bleach-And-Shove-A-Lightbulb-Up-Your-Ass.

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          And-Shove-A-Lightbulb-Up-Your-Ass.

          At least then they could say they had a bright idea!

          …I’ll see myself out.

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        I don’t think there are 15 Million “Gaza or bust” voters so this was just pure ignorance…

        I believe there were 15 million "oh look, Harris is besties with Liz Cheney and continuing the half assed approach that Dems keep doing so who fucking cares’ people. I totally see why her poll numbers kept dropping over the course of her campaign after a strong start.

        I still voted for her, but at that point is was just another vote against Republicans.

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          All these people on these threads blaming it on the voters when Harris had it in her power to run a different campaign is just lazy. Harris not only had a brake she could pull to stop the “trolley”, she had a damned steering wheel to steer completely away from running people over, and she made a choice not to. Dont blame the peasants for shit leadership.

          Every single swing state lost. Both congress and the house lost. Thats a badly out of touch party, not stupid voters.

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          So they thought through what it means to associate with a Cheney, but at the same time didn’t care enough to do anything about this situation? I don’t buy it. Apathy lost this election. And democrats share blame for that obviously, but acting like voters were right to stay home isn’t the right takeaway.

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            And democrats share blame for that obviously, but acting like voters were right to stay home isn’t the right takeaway.

            Agreed, which is why I still voted despite sharing the same demotivation.

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          I think that takes more thought than even those who vote with us do. I think we seriously overestimate the political intelligence of the people in this country. Not to say 0% were those people, but if we’re talking millions I think we’re talking about typical ignorance.

          I think the vast majority vote D for social issues, but once their pocketbook gets hurt it’s time to sit it out or worse “punish” the party in power by voting for the opposition. :(

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            They succeeded in punishing the party. For a price. We’ll revisit later if it was worth it.

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              if you listen to interviews of non voters they’re not even online. Ever. Like we need more people reaching out to real humans in the real world. they don’t listen to news they arent online. I don’t think democrats were ever going to win this one, too many voters are entirely unreachable.

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              It would take 100 years minimum to undo the damage that will be done, so I’m going to say “not worth it”.

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                The damage to the environment will never be undone. The US will double-down on emissions and most other countries in the world will stop trying because they won’t think there’s any point anymore.

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                  Oh it will recover alright. About a million years after we go extinct. So in about 1.00005 million years.