• j4k3@lemmy.world
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    2 months ago

    Republicans don’t make up the bullshit about election fraud, they read their own playbook and only change the names. Such is the criminal weirdo party.

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    Do these people think real life is a fucking game? At this point I’m convinced repoblicans are delusional

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      Do these people think real life is a fucking game?

      Yes. And that they have to ‘win’. And that the consequences for other people ‘don’t matter’.

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      That’s the result of being rich and not knowing what consequences are.

      Imaging touching a hot plate and not burning yourself. What incentive would there be to not touch that plate?

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      When you have enough money and power to avoid experiencing the vast majority of consequences of your actions, then life does become a game for the vast majority of the time.

      The reluctance of governments to take action against the rich and powerful just feeds their delusions further.

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      Well if it wasn’t there would be consequences for this shit. As far as their concerned it’s all just theater until there’s a judge involved. And let’s be honest here. They’re basically right at this point.

  • smb@lemmy.ml
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    2 months ago

    maybe thats where he has that lie-and fraud-habit from ;-) but i believe that this post is not more than just some more election campain lies 🤷 just look at the “the democrats” part. if voter fraud would be that easy, voting should be delayed until fixed. following that argumentation there already is no democracy but only feudalism in the us (or isn’t it already?) and all the voting stuff is just theater to calm the masses while beeing abused like cattle. and if its not that easy, this seems to be yet-another-musk-lie in a row of how many?

    but… even if it wasn’t that easy to fake votes, is it democracy then only because of the votes are done and counted correctly? what about the candidates and where they come from, who or what decides which candidates can be voted? who or whatever does or impacts this filtering is an attack vector where democracy can be directly attacked. and limiting the candidates to who one could manipulate or who shares the same fraud wishes from the beginning is a very powerful attack vector.

    now what do you think who would want to attack democracy in the first place? or how would that be done while leaving the vote-counting system intact? and who would maybe want to point to nonexisting voting problems just to distract from much bigger fraud? that is if those voting problems do not exist of course.

    so many questions, so many lies and nobody seems voteable? what a coincidence!

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      2 months ago

      We’re like a hairs breadth away from corpo feudalism. The rise of unions feels like a good sign but it’s gonna take some work.

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        We’re like a hairs breadth away from corpo feudalism

        i think this is rather a permanent and created perception of beeing “at the edge” as it assumes not to be there yet while it allows feudalists to do all their crap, parts of it even publicly. at least our parent generation had the same perception of beeing at that same edge while things have worsened a lot in the decades of the feudalists fouling further. that is IMHO ;-)

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    That wouldn’t even fucking work, lol. You need, at minimum, a proof of address, and even if you spoofed 10 different names and addresses that each corresponded to 10 specific precincts, you’re going to be given a provisional ballot, in which case your vote doesn’t even get counted until it has been independently researched and verified by county workers, which if it succeeds, won’t get counted till a week later.

    God. I fucking hate that these idiots have a non-zero chance of winning.

  • taiyang@lemmy.world
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    Nobody wants to point out the community notes sound like the narrator from Arrested Development?

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    2 months ago

    Should have let her run her little scam so she could go to jail like the other Karen’s.

    I didn’t realize Musk bought citizenship for his apartheid mother. And she’s here quoting sovcit qnut conspiracy garbage at us like it’s a real thing. Fuck the Musk family until the end of time.

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      Please keep your hate towards other family members to yourself. There is no generational guilt. With at least one of his children we already know it is not a fucked up asshole.

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      It’s really not that wild, many legal immigrants want to pull the ladder up behind them.

      Source: am married to an immigrant and work with several. All of them seem to like Trump’s immigration policies for some reason…

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        I honestly can’t wrap my head around this. If I emigrated elsewhere to flee this shit-show, I would absolutely help other people cross whatever borders I did.

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          Conservatives think that some people are just better than others and, surprise surprise, they’re near the top of the “natural hierarchy”.

          “I’m an immigrant, but I’m not like those other immigrants because I don’t [Republican stereotype of immigrants]”

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            Democrats often display they same intolerance towards republicans though. Both parties have a habit of attacking rather than supporting. I thought this election might be different with the democrats, and I think its improved, but they still fight in the mud far too often for my liking.

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              That’s funny, because I would have said the exact opposite; Democrats have been taking the “they go low, we go high” approach for far too long, and it has historically allowed republicans to blatantly lie while remaining almost entirely unchecked. By this point, denying reality is an engrained part of conservative culture. This election is the first time in recent memory that I have seen democrats actually stop pulling punches and start blatantly accusing the republicans of lying.

              And honestly, it’s a welcome change. “The tolerant left” was a term coined by the right, to be able to cry when liberals called them out for intolerance. Democrats have finally started ignoring the crocodile tears and calling them out for what they are.

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                Its a matter of perspective in my opinion. From my groups perspective, they usually do go high. From other groups perspectives, its rare they do. Its unfortunate democrats have taken advantage of so many groups of people, that’s what I mean by going low. They have gone low with republicans, and they have gone low with third party voters and uncommitted voters as well. They have tried to take the high road in most other places it seems though, which actually wasn’t the norm. Anti-corporate policy is relatively new.

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                  How is that relatively new? I’m pushing 40 and since long before my lifetime it’s been democrats supporting unions, breaking monopolies, and placing regulations on industry.

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                  It’s a matter of actually knowing each parties stance and voting records. Not anything to do with perspective.

                  Do you agree with the way representatives have voted and bills they’ve supported?

                  Or do you only care about “perspective”?

                  Or are you just a month old account that only talks about voting for Jill Stein?

        • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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          Here’s the thought process:

          1. it was really hard to get into this country
          2. if we make it easier to come here, that nullifies the work I did

          A similar argument applies to a lot of other things, for example:

          • student loan forgiveness - I paid my student loans (or worked to avoid them), why should others get a pass?
          • mortgage assistance - I saved to be able to afford a home, why should others skip that step?

          A lot of people attribute this to selfishness, but I think it’s closer to jealousy. I have two kids who share a bedroom, and if I reward them equally for cleaning up when one did 90% of the work, that doesn’t seem fair to the one that did the most work, even if they’re older and more capable. I think that’s pretty similar to what’s happening here.

          That said, I personally am in favor of much more open borders, and I’d like to get to a point where we don’t have quotas or anything and people can come as they please. My ideal is a quick stop at the border to fill out a form (i.e. temporary work authorization), then perhaps monthly digital reports about job status, and then a longer-term authorization once you can prove employment (or at least financial stability). We have a huge backlog, so in the meantime I’d like to simplify the paperwork and increase the quotas until that backlogged demand is exhausted.

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          Immigrants are by definition people who left their culture for another. Why would they want to make it easier for others?

          If I made it out of the US to Spain, the last thing I want is a bunch more Americans coming with me

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        Class and race are the issues. Rich, white Immigrants? Sure, that’s them. They’re fine with more. Poor or non-white? No way.

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          Which is ironic IMO, because it’s the poor, non-white immigrants that build this country from the ground up. They take the jobs we don’t want, which keeps our prices low so our better educated citizens can take better jobs. Then after a generation or two, those poor immigrants’ descendants will be the ones taking the better jobs.

          We need a constant stream of people willing to take the crappy jobs we don’t want, especially if we want to bring manufacturing back to this country. So I really don’t understand why conservatives want to simultaneously encourage more factories here and discourage low-cost labor.

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    We live in a world that if you call someone an idiot or violate some other arbitrary rule you get banned, but if you spread dangerous lies you usually are fine and rarely see a consequence

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      Sell a bit of plant material, prison.

      Never pay taxes and rile up people to attack the government while spreading the most insane shit ever, president of the US.

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      Yeah. Shit like this has driven me to the conclusion that the logical end state of civility politics invariably tends towards fascism.

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            Yeah, but each name can only vote once yet she says it’s 100 votes. I don’t think it’s a fair assumption that she meant to use one booth at each location.

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              10 fake names/votes at 10 different polling places equals 100 votes. That’s what she’s saying. I don’t see what you’re not getting.

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                It was stupid of her to say the number 10 three times and end up with 100. 10×10×10 is 1000. One of them is redundant. Logically it should be 10 votes or 1000 votes or it’s redundant confusing information.

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                  Yes one of them is repeated, that’s what I said. At this point you must be intentionally obtuse and it’s not funny, it’s just stupid.

  • Andrew@piefed.social
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    Given how many people wanted to leave Facebook when their mums joined it, we can only hope that Elon starts to feel the same.