We need an archive link to this from this guy OR someone else verifying that this is true. I tried to find it, but couldn’t. I’ll give everyone a half an hour.
Edit: Thanks for everyone doing so much research. The crazy thing is, when you go to @DavidShuster, the comment doesn’t show up at all and it looks the account hasn’t been active for a year or so. But then RedJard linked and archived the original. LillyPip confirmed that it is his account.
I now spent close to an hour trying to figure out Robinson’s political leanings, and as of right now the internet simply does not know.
This is the closest:
A public records database shows Robinson’s family resides in Washington, Utah, where Trump garnered support from 75% of voters in the 2024 presidential election. Robinson’s parents have Republican listed as their party affiliation, said public voter registration information, and they are considered active voters (each cast ballots in the 2024 election that gave Trump a second presidency).
Public records also indicated Robinson registered as a voter in Utah in July 2021 but was considered inactive and did not declare an affiliation to any party when he registered.
And then there’s a lot of talk about bullet engravings which leave me very confused. How can you engrave “If you’re reading this you’re gay” - 26 characters onto a single bullet? Even so, the messaging is open to interpretation. We simply do not know yet, and we might never know 100%! He’s conflicted, that much seems clear.
IMHO most timely and objective article as of right now: LA Times
edit: I wrote this 24h ago. Surely the situation has changed by now. See you in a more timely thread!
Wouldn’t the bullet that called Kirk a fascist be an indicator of a possible left position held by the shooter?
Magats like to throw insults, but very often it is evident that they do not understand what the words they use, actually mean. “Fascist”, “Communist”, “Socialist” are all examples of “insults” I’ve been called by obvious magats. I don’t think they understand what TDS is either, even though they all have terminal cases of it. In general, I don’t think magats understand much of anything at all.
I mean, anybody can throw the word “fascism” out there and a wide variety of people purport to hate fascism so shrugs maybe but probably not.
My understanding is that it’s a Helldivers 2 reference, so not necessarily.
True, but i still don’t see how it can’t be a game reference and a label applied to Kirk. I don’t see how somebody, who is right wing themselves, would use this. But it makes perfect sense if the shooter was left.
Super Earth calls the bugs fascist in game in spite of being fascist.
Groypers and always online fascists co-opt left language and I see them call other nazis fascists derisively. I will bet you ten thousand dollars there will be no sign the shooter was leftist in any way.
He recycled one time!
He donated to trump…
I heard this was another person with the same name.
Even so, the messaging is open to interpretation.
Really?
I don’t know what the commenter meant, but my guess would be that they meant the statement could’ve been a lighthearted joke or homophobic and it isn’t clear which.
it’s 4chan drivel, i called it from the text alone even before the Nick Fuentes angel
“IfURReadngthisURG”
It’s tighter but gets the same message across
“URG? Must be trans ideology…”
- the FBI, probably
30.06 is a large bullet and the words were allegedly written on the cases of the bullets, not the rounds themselves. Good to be skeptical but a fine point Sharpie could get 26 characters on there if you had small handwriting or did multiple lines or whatever.
Yup. And you could probably engrave it with a nail, so the barrier here is pretty low, but it would probably take an hour or so to engrave a simple message because it’s kinda hard.
Yeah, but think of all the Internet points he probably got showing off the rounds beforehand?
If you’re reading this you’re gay
If you’re reading this you’re gay, LMAO…
I assume you mean proof as to the claims.
But just in case if you mean the tweet being made and made by that account, it is still up and I made an archived version of it.The account claims to be
journalist […] TYT.com Rebel HQ. Previously anchored for MSNBC + AJAM
I’m going to leave this up and let you all decide if this is true or not. He hasn’t been confirmed as this journalist, but x is a POS organization, so everyone gets to decide for themselves.
I trust David Shuster as a journalist, but I personally really would prefer more evidence.
It’s not checkmarked as officially him though. It’s not that I’m doubting the journalist, we don’t know if this is him.
This article from 2010 quotes and links to that same Twitter account as being his, so it looks real as far as I can tell. Other articles and references I’ve found more recently also link to that same account. It looks legit.
Remember, the blue check no longer means ‘verified’ – now it only means ‘paid for premium’ (since Musk took over, he changed it such that you just have to pay monthly for the blue check, not be the verified person), so I wouldn’t put stock in that blue check now.
e: it’s at the bottom, here’s the quote:
Meanwhile Shuster hasn’t made a peep on Twitter since MSNBC called his direct tweets to O’Keefe “inappropriate.” It will be one week tomorrow morning – we’ve reached out to MSNBC to see if there has been any suspension. Either way, he can communicate through Red Eye‘s in-box…
Ohhhh gotcha. I was just adding my two cents, but now I understand what you’re saying. I’ll contact him about this.
Ok… What’s your evidence that he was a groyper? How are you any different than them when they were hoping it would be an immigrant or some trans person when they had no evidence
Besides some rumors and claims that he police officers would already have confirmed themselves by now, there is nothing to suggest he is. The closest I’ve seen are the claims that he was “deep Groyper signalling” with the bullet case inscriptions, but that’s just grasping at straws.
I suspect his Discord gamer group may have been more involved in shaping his ideology, specially if he was giving details on how he towel wrapped his rifle there. Unfortunately, Discord nuked it and now we have to rely on the (in)competence of the Trump appointed authorities and their heavy political baggage.
The fact is that is you have a group that fetishizes guns and fetishizes using them and the tactical encounters with them using a “second amendment” “it’s there to act against the oppressor” ideology, you are going to get shooters. Why obsess about what the spark or the trigger was? The Groypers are basically The Army of the 12 Monkeys in this scenario.
No matter how holy you are there is always someone holier than thou. They should implicate Laura Loomer for encouraging this assassination since she was one of the people who said Charlie wasn’t republican enough lol.
Where are the actual sources of this information? Are there police interview transcripts available somewhere? Are there reports about a transcript from reputable sources? So far all I’ve seen is wild speculation by untrusted sources.
As of now, all I actually know about this guy is that he shot charlie kirk.
So is the right entering a civil war with the right, as prophecized ?
I’m embarassed to ask how I am supposed to pronounce “groyper.”
“groy” rhymes with “Troy” (or boy or joy) and the “per” is pronounced as a p then an “er” as in “trigger” or “banner”.
So, a groyper is like one who groyps.
What a weird word but this helped. Thank you.
If when you say it you feel like you’ve just sexually assaulted a nearby woman, then you have pronounced it correctly. Sort of a cross between “hype” and “grope”.
r/conservative is really trying to paint him as a transperson associate.
‘Associate’ is certainly one of the words. Though I’m pretty sure that he would want to stay as far away from us as he could.
It’s kinda tiring everyone trying to figure out what a psychopath was.
Why? I think it’s useful to try to prevent a repeat.
There are solutions to stopping repeats but this Government will not pass them.
Perhaps, but wouldn’t it be nice to stop it with the next admin? Or at least inform the public so people can know what to look for in their family and friends?
The next admin is going to pass common-sense gun laws? I highly doubt that.
I haven’t seen proposed gun laws that don’t already exist and would actually solve the problems we’re seeing. For the most part, they’re things like assault weapons bans (more based on look than function), mag size restrictions (easy to mod smaller mags or 3d print your own), unenforceable “ghost gun” laws, etc.
What I think we need is:
- widespread gun safety classes (perhaps in schools?)
- free mental health access (at least a few visits) if your income is below some amount (say, 2x median income), funded by sales of guns, alcohol, tobacco, etc (mental health could include addiction recovery as well)
- improved social connection that’s not social media echo chambers
A lot of gun violence is committed with illegally obtained guns, or guns owned by people who should no longer have them. So adding more laws on top to restrict guns won’t solve the problem.
What was the anti fascist song all about? Are groypers anti fascist?
It was a gamer reference. Waaaaay more likely got the reference from far cry 6, than from an obscure italian song noone else had heard of till now.
But it had to mean something, so what’s the point of it in far cry 6?
I’m hearing the shooter had a trans girlfriend from a right wing friend of mine, but I can’t find proof, does anyone know what he’s talking about?
Why don’t you ask your right wing friend wtf he’s talking about??
I tried, he just sent me links to Fox News and twitter posts, nothing reliable or substantial… When I tried looking it up on my own I found New York Post drivel
There’s going to be an incredible amount of transphobia because they can do it. The right is currently obsessed with transgender people committing violence even though it doesn’t happen anywhere near the rates of their cisgender counterparts.
Anyway, trans people had nothing to do with this but the right wing is still trying to blame it on them because they can
He had a trans roommate, but it hasn’t been verified that they were in a relationship. In fact, it might not even be verified that they’re trans. It’s too early to believe this stuff.
It’s also not been verified that they’re trans, has it?!
It hasn’t. As far as I know.
I highly doubt that, that sounds like something conservative media would make up and people would repeat far too much.
Here’s the relevant casing message:
Notices Bulge. OwO What is this?
It’s possible he’s talking about personal experience, it’s also possible he’s just spreading hate. We don’t know which it is, and we probable won’t until the investigation gets further along.
I’ve heard it’s a 10 year old meme from furry communities that’s just about bulges from erections in general, not really a gender/trans thing.
I googled “Kirk Shooter Trans Girlfriend”, but the only media I could find reporting it were Fox News and New York Post, and the latter admitted the person in question was neither trans nor the shooter’s lover, just that they were “Cooperating with the FBI”
The NYP was especially vile as it just went on about how great of a guy Kirk was, paradoxically claiming Kirk was practicing love and kindness by being openly transphobic. How Orwellian.
Eh, I wouldn’t call it Orwellian. It’s pretty well l own that Fox News isn’t really news (local fox news channels are, just not the national “Fox News,” which is “news entertainment”). Likewise, the NYP is pretty awful and slanted.
It would be Orwellian if all the major networks were saying the same, wrong thing.
I meant Orwellian in that they claimed one thing (Charlie Kirk is loving and caring) and their example was the exact opposite (Charlie Kirk hating transpeople)… War Is Peace and all that
I like how it’s a big deal that this guy is allegedly dating a trans woman because it’s convenient to the narrative but when alex jones accidentally broadcasted his trans porn search to thousands of viewers on infowars, none of these folks even knew about it.
Some marking on the bullet got around, I think it was TRN but that’s the manufacturer of the bullet if it’s accurate. Apparently that is, I willI will say cause there’s been so much crap about this douche being killed it’s muddying any real info. Also read that the manufacturer doesn’t make bullets for that caliber (30 odd 6? For a hunting rifle, I don’t know guns well but know it’s a hunting type still) so I really dunno and I did not look into that so need to check that out if it’s important to the story. I only saw the the manufacturer didn’t make that caliber from a single comment but read many with the bullet marking and one mentioned the pic going around is a 9mm.
Don’t take my word for this Ive just been reading about the story, but it’s what I’ve gleened from them all.
It appears he was just a more extreme right wing person than even the deceased is and that provoked him into action. Seems likely from due to how easily they’re (extreme right wing) provoked in general.
We have specific wording. The most relevant is, “Notices Bulge. OwO What is this?”
That has been reported by the governor of Utah, and Gov. Cox is actually pretty hesitant to repeat nonsense, unlike other governors in very red states. He actually seems to care a bit about trans people, at least trans kids, and I wonder if maybe he has someone in his family who is trans.
I hope that helps. If you want to find the others, just look up “Kirk casings messages” on whatever media source you trust.
Just a slight correction, it’s “thirty ought six” or “30-06” where thirty is the caliber(diameter of projectile) and ought six is the year the military adopted it. Not that that makes much difference, I’m just a nerd.
I appreciate the correction I always heard odd not ought but probably cause I heard it much, much younger heh. Grew up in a small town in Canada so was just thinking how I heard it (seriously all these years heard 30 odd 6 in my memory), maybe our accent too. Have a good one, appreciate the knowledge! Always a good day when you learn something new, doesn’t happen as often these days.
It’s actually aught, it’s a word for zero
You’re pretty metal homie 🤘
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Apparently Right Wing Media is reporting he had a trans girlfriend. But I can’t find any trustworthy sources.
Even the New York Post article I read says that the person was neither his girlfriend or even trans (but totally considering it)
Mostly the article spun its wheels saying how much Kirk practiced love by hating transpeople. Because war is peace don’t you know…
A groyper is a made up term by maga. Its only purpose is to allow maga to distance itself from when one of their cult members follows through on the rhetoric and hate that maga preaches. That is all this term is. It is so that maga can still be as racist and bigoted as they want to be, but distance themselves from the violent acts of their own people. Do not believe anything else you read about this term.
Edit- typos
I think Fuentes and his fans started calling themselves Groypers before anyone else did, right?
Nick Fuentes and his followers refer to themselves as groypers
Is kirk beavis or butthead?
Ah nvm, he’s butthead…
Anus neck
A very deep sigh of relief was uttered by me, but then turned into a groan of frustration, because all those right wing nutcases who were calling for the heads of all leftists are now again demanding sympathy. Fuck them.
Those who REFUSE to offer empathy, can’t reasonably expect it in return.
Time to get un-relieved because this is fake (as discussed in other comments).
I’m still thinking a lot of those “people” are just “bots”
They flop around more than a wacky waving inflatable arm flailing tube man.
remember, Charlie Kirk did not believe in empathy, so fulfill his wishes and do not have any for him
This is the full quote.
No, don’t “oh that’s still bad”, you thought all the people repeating half of the quote weren’t lying to you with the specific goal of justifying murder. Classic brown shirt behavior.
His dick is definitely flaccid by now you can hop off
Sympathy is for something that happened. Empathy connects you to others and prevents the need for sympathy. That being said, where’s the full quote on “a woman’s place is under her husband’s thumb.” Or him calling for the release and exoneration of the dude who attacked Nancy pelosi’s husband?
Something something brown shirts?
Charlie was a pain in the neck.
At least he started to lean left at the very end
… Am i the only one who was hoping to find out what the hell a “groyper” is somewhere in this thread? Sounds like something I don’t want in my search history.
The Google search data blew up about that topic.
It’s a right-wing group by Nick Fuentes. A combination of edge lord shit and believing the the right isn’t pushing even harder.
They loved Trump until they didn’t. And honestly, it’s kind of ironic watching Frankestein’s monster go wild.
Nick Fuentes’ community. They’re just Nazis trolls.
