Why would you move to the Netherlands if you are MAGA? Isn’t your country so much greater again now? You ellected your king and then you left?
Well, the Dutch are moving right. Gert Wilders is a literal fascist.
AfD in Germany then we have Norway, Italy, Finland, UK, France and on and on. They probably feel at home
laughs in Dutch politics
Cries in Dutch politics
Willen wij meer of minder MAGAanen in Nederland?!
/satire
Ik weet niet, wilt je meer of minder domheid… goede vraag.
Yeah this confuses me to no end. I thought they made America great last election?
Because they live in a constant state of cognitive dissonance.
Trump made it great, but Biden and woke already made it so un-great that the greatness hasn’t all trickled down yet.
Well, if this wasn’t a troll account, it would probably be for work. The US has a military presence in the Netherlands, and we have a lot of corporate cross-over, especially in the tech industry, like the photo lithography involved in making CPUs. It isn’t that weird.
This is s troll though
Gotta say, thats a pretty good burn.
As a Canadian, I would very much like some sort of barrier between my country and the United States. We’ve got our own brand of crazy up here and have absolutely no need to import any junk from the USA.
Build a wall, make the USA pay for it
(Kidding, mostly.)
I am not, I never did a kid
U disgusting fu
As an American, I hope Canada gets some sort of barrier between it and the United States.
I would gladly go with my family and volunteer to help build it. If my family “accidentally” ends up on the Canadian side, I’d much rather stay though and help offset the crazy you have there…
I mean if you are there putting the last bricks in and you are standing on the north side you really don’t have much of a choice.
North of the Wall!!! I want to be a wildling
Who the fuck emigrates to Europe as a hardcore American fascist? Seriously? What the actual fuck?
Imagine being racist and wanting to enjoy it instead of making it political. In the US it’s culture war shit. In Europe you can go to a football match and throw bananas at the black players and it’s chill. It’s just easier to be casually racist in Europe because racism doesn’t exist there, and if it does, it’s not as bad as America.
In fairness nobody ever died from a stray banana.
Recently in Spain a football fan got sentenced for racist chants
Could be a military member stationed there. A guy I work with is one of those 4chan “libertarians” and had nothing but “horror stories” about living in Germany. Same guy is terrified to venture into the local major metropolitan area or take the light rail system.
I’d love to hear more
Maybe they needed the more affordable healthcare?
We need that, and healthcare that isn’t tied to our jobs, because that significantly entrenches the whole wage slavery thing.
Yeah, fuck off back to your own shit country if you don’t like it
I’m an American living in the EU, and I’m surprised by that. All the other American immigrants I’ve met so far have been opposed to Trump and Republicans generally. I always figured the conservatives were likely to be buying into AmErIcA iS tHe BeSt propaganda and would thus be uninterested in moving to another country.
It’s funny, the fascists “won” here, but they are still expatriating themselves to fuck up other people’s countries too.
Europeans invented fascism so she’s just trying to learn from the best.
Spreading the plague, as insects are wont to do.
As an American, I would like to apologize profusely for the rank idiocy of my fellow citizens.
No need for an apology here, I too am beyond mortified by what my country has revealed itself to be. I do sincerely hope the rest of the civilized world resists the ideology we seem to be exporting before it’s too late.
We have plenty of fascists here. It’s not like the US have a monopoly. We don’t quite let them run the show yet, but we’re certainly working on it.
The difference is that while we may have several fascists here, unlike in the US the majority are not fascists.
Yeah, but a really big part of the MAGA platform is hating on the “communist” and “woke” “yuropoors”. She must really really hate it here.
Also insane because I’m willing to bet she grew up and went to school in the era before we militarized our schools
We have European fascists here. The point here is: why would an American fascist move to Amsterdam?
They come here to spread their culture, their ideology of violence and intolerance.
As an American, please enthusiastically tell any American that tries to do this to fuck all the way off and go back to our own shitty country. I don’t want us fucking up your continent too.
Here here. If Europe goes to trash I won’t even be able to VPN my way out of fascist bullshit.
If Europe goes to fash, my options narrow to Japan or SK or A/NZ, and none of those have the same geopolitical weight as the EU.
The EU is, IMO, the last best hope for democracy in the world these days, in the context of a geopolitically significant polity that is (mostly) cohesive.
And I hope that statement ages like wine, not milk (or, like the B5 S3 intro)
I mean Japan’s political situation is kind of weird. The LDP has basically been in power forever (with super brief interruptions). It lost power recently though so we’ll see what happens I guess. IIUC tho anti-immigrant sentiment is rising (at least partly fueled by the massive waves of shitty tourists IMO), which prob isn’t a great sign based on what’s been happening in other countries.
Europe has its own nest of fascists and they’re gaining popularity.
Maybe for a specific job? Booking.com used to heavily recruit US talent to work in Amsterdam. It was usually only for a few years at a time, though, in accordance with Dutch labor and immigration laws.
Not for years and years. Most of the booking.com staff is remote. All the senior staff is outsourced now too and very little is in Amsterdam. If you get a job there, word to the wise, don’t compliment the one lady’s chickens, she gets big mad.
They call themself an expat that’s all I needed to hear
Because we don’t have regular mass shootings in schools because we don’t give every single person the money for a ticket to a gun show a gun and where we do, we legislate that they keep their gun in a gun safe. You know, like the rest of the world…or the USA in 1792.
we don’t give every single person the money for a ticket to a gun show
Erm, wut?
In America you can bypass gun checks in most checks if you buy your gun from a Gun show.
Yes… but what does that have to do with the country allegedly giving every single person the money for a ticket?
I forgot a word: We don’t give everyone with the money for a ticket to a gun show…
It’s not JUST the guns tbh. Everyone in Switzerland has a gun and they don’t shoot eachother up. American society is fucked up on multiple different levels and the guns are just adding extra fuel and oxygen to a forest fire.
Everyone in Switzerland has a gun and they don’t shoot eachother up. American society is fucked up on multiple different levels
Whenever i mention the Swiss having as many guns as the US, if not more, and yet the former has practically zero mass shooting incidents, and pointed out the problem of America is cultural, Americans tend to turn a blind eye to it.
We “tend to turn a blind eye to it” because “cultural problem” is primarily used as a racist dog whistle.
If your intention was to point at the underlying cause, you need to be talking about systematic impoverization, lack of generational wealth, devaluation of labor, etc.
Being American is not exclusive to black people and thus American culture has a country-wide problem in relation to guns.
Because a gun is cheaper than mental healthcare.
It’s more than just mental healthcare. American society is just broken in so many ways.
Yup. I sometimes travel (or travelled for that matter… I’m not going back to that shit hole) to the US and basically everyone there is living an act. It’s so weird and artificial and it all boils down to an “I’m the best and deserve everything, all the others can go fuck themselves” attitude. This is highly toxic and can easily lead to violence. Pair that with how they breathe the most toxic form of capitalism and you have a recipe for the shit show that is the USA. I’m really sorry for all the cool guys over there. There certainly are some fine people, but the majority is completely lost.
And until our societal issues are solved, the guns need to go back into Pandora’s box.
Too late now unfortunately. The people who’d need to give up their guns, will never do so voluntarily. The actually responsible gun owners might give theirs away though.
It’s media, education and the political system that need to change. It won’t.
back to 1776
It’s a dumb comparison, as their reason for owning guns is entirely different and tied to national defense, not self-defense and “freedom”
It’s not a dumb comparison because it shows that in a healthy society, people don’t try to murder each other even given the chance. The fact that Americans buy guns for “freedom” is a symptom, not the root cause of all issues.
Also crazy as they don’t really have that much freedom. They’re slaves to capitalism.
As a gun owner in USA, I fucking hate gun culture.
honest question: then why do you own one?
I get self defense, of course, but doesn’t the fact of owning a firearm make you part of gun culture? or am I missing something?No, you’ll know gun culture when you see it. The people that put the stupid stickers all over the car, the firearm brands, the calibers, stuff like that, becomes a major part of their personality.
Like the other commenter said, you would never know that I even own a gun unless we were pretty damn close.
I don’t really have a solid answer for you. I think it started growing up where my dad had guns, rifles, in the army but he was super protective of them, he wouldn’t show them to us, he wouldn’t let us see them at all, he wouldn’t teach us about them so I was just genuinely curious. So when I moved out that was the first thing I bought.
And I hated the gun laws here, you can buy and sell guns just like you’re selling a car, just do a bill of sale. There’s no background check for secondhand guns. i bought my first one at a metro stop in DC, rode the train out, guy pulled up to the metro parking lot and we traded. i mean we took pictures of each other’s IDs and did a bill of sale, but beyond that, nothing.
Mine doesn’t really ever come out of lockup unless we’re camping or going on a long road trip. I haven’t carried it in years and I think my license might even be expired at this point. I’m not scared, maybe wildlife, I’m near the Appalachian Mountains. I don’t carry it around to intimidate anybody, or try to use it for coercion. But I guess the fascination has just always been there since it was withheld growing up.
That’s why I never tell anyone outside of my immediate family that I own a firearm. Because some weird fucking people in America exist. And they are gun nuts.
No bro, I don’t want to talk about your 300 blackout how you wish someone would bust into your house so you can shoot them.
I keep my shit in my safe, that’s it. It’s not a personality.
how do you use it in a home invasion in the middle of the night if it’s locked up and unloaded?
Same. Very few people know I own one and have a concealed license. Made sure the gf knew how to shoot and that she wouldn’t hesitate to use it if necessary. But that’s it. Been locked away at least since Valentine’s last year when we went to shoot.
Still shows the problem is the Americans rather than the guns
In Switzerland most people give their state issued gun away when they are not serving. So almost nobody has a gun at home.
Ah but is that not something they opt to do because they feel safe? In comparison, American gun nuts would never do that, they don’t feel safe without their guns.
Yeah it is their choice.
So that’s part of the same point. They COULD have access to guns and could shoot each other, but nobody wants to. Thus guns are only a problem when there’s other underlying issues.
But since US has the issues, you should lock guns away.
Aye, but when all the lunatics already have guns and you remove the guns from the responsible citizens, is that putting people in more or less danger?
I think it’s too late at this point to solve this one via gun control.
Nope, Switzerland had one of the highest rates of gun suicides before measures were taken.
Gun suicides or suicides in general?
Because suicides will always be an issue. Guns just make it easier. How many mass shootings have the swiss had though? Switzerland has a “List of mass shootings” article on Wikipedia. The US has a “ListS of mass shootings” category. The US list for 2018 alone is significantly longer than Switzerland’s list starting with 1905. I realize that Switzerland has a smaller population, but the per capita rates have a large discrepancy too. Something like a 9x difference.
all 37 of them
and when they had guns, they were highly trained. They didn’t carry them loaded in their purses so their toddlers could play with them.
I think the US military only attacks school when there students aren’t mainly white
Or a school of fish… or a school boat
Or run by a democratically-elected leftist government.
To be fair. We deserve all the smoke.
Yeah I see people online talk about how Europeans can supposedly only come up with one reason to criticize the US and it’s just…
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Not true at all there’s a hundred reasons Europeans could criticize us
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I can’t think of a single criticism I’ve seen of the US that wasn’t completely valid
Like yeah I guess you could argue the average citizen is well aware of the school shooting issue and knows the answer to the problem, but at the same time our last election really calls that perspective into question.
Half the country is illiterate.
whilst half of europe is at least literate in more than one language.
and no… Texas and Massachusetts accents don’t count.
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How big is the ocean between Europe and Russia?
After columbine my school banned all black clothing. And forbid boys picking up sticks in case we used them to pretend they where weapons.
I remember something about trench coats. Then those got banned.
Guns were never banned though!
Narrator: The problem wasn’t the kids it was the US.
Clarification: venues getting shot up is a specifically elevated problem in the US (exacerbated by availability of guns, but that’s not really the root of the problem). The thing is, the root of the problem (right-wing-leaning low-information constituents – lumpenproletariat in left-wing speak – suffering from precarity sometimes turn to violence) is being visited on European nations where two-party systems have taken root, and neoliberalism has set in. It’s the old King Log vs. King Heron problem. We’re seeing violence and counterviolence in the EU, just with less frequency and fewer guns, but it will catch up to them.
I’ve seen security in European schools. Usually in the morning, due to congestion traffic concerns.
I like how Lily tells us she’s not worth bothering with in her username.
A MAGA IMMIGRANT in Amsterdam? ewww, I wish we could close our borders to the likes of them.
Their Insta now says they’ve moved back to the States permanently. And also that their pronouns are they/them, which is super baffling next to “MAGA.”
They haven’t figured out that the entire movement that’s their entire personality hates people like them?
That’s hilariously sad!
Most British schools have bars to keep the kids in.
Nasty little fuckers.
There was an incident in Dundee recently that far-right knuckle-draggers (like emerald mine nepo-baby Elon Musk) tried to pass off as a 12 year old schoolgirl pulling a knife and fighting off an immigrant rapist, and it turns out she was just tooled up and threatening random strangers.
That’s an exarregation, right?
