• hexagon@lemmy.ml
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    Didn’t North Korean military slap US military with their dick on their faces for years? Isn’t that the reason a North Korea exists at all?

  • Cattail@lemmy.world
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    Lol they’re pro military just to make Trump’s joint celebration with the military look bad

  • ☂️-@lemmy.ml
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    if by “defend our nation” he means “destabilizing foreign nations” then yeah, he is correct.

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      There is an argument to be made that they are defending American hegemony though Trump is fast eroding that in favor of the Chinese.

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      I personally enjoy their “Jumbotron” where everyone holds a pixel and they change in unison.

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    I’ve been trying to explain to people for many years that China’s military is mostly just for show, but it isn’t the US if we’re not demonizing China for no reason.

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    I despised drill and ceremony. Standing in the heat and humidity, waiting to move and watching soldiers drop because of heat stroke. Never lock your damn knees.

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    Eeehh, so yes, after basic i did not march anywhere really. And you do need to brush up on it to keep in the swing of things…. But honestly, you know your unit is going to march in a parade months in advance, and for better or worse are going to represent the armed forces, you schedule mandatory training time.

    Is it wasteful? Arguably under normal circumstances, definitely under this circumstance.

    So i can only conclude that either they did not care, or do care a lot, or someone who was supposed to plan this fucked up and they just grabbed people.

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      If I was the commanding officer for this absolute sham, I’d teach them to match the goose step to make a point.

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      Hell, even our AIT D&C was crispy AF. Every fiber of our being was purely focused on immaculate execution. I do miss that. The intensity of not that natural motivation and not the manufactured stuff that gets you through daily morning formation.

      ###“SOUND OFF”

      😈👏 ooooh, Jodie you done did it now. I hope you like getting your tits blown off because you bout to get your tits blown off.

    • Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works
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      It is genuinely, such a hilariously piss-poor excuse.

      My wife is in the Canadian Forces. She is ridiculously good at her job, and everyone in the CAF is trained to a ridiculously high standard. By the time she exited occupational training she was already qualified on more weapon systems than most US soldiers ever touch in their entire careers. Her unit shoots sub-MOA groupings for fun. They meet and often exceed the physical standards for Ranger school. And this is just reg-force infantry.

      And despite all that, she is also so completely capable of keeping a tight march that she actually has to stop herself from automatically falling in perfect step next to me when we’re walking down the street. And no, the excuse of “Oh, you can’t march to Fortunate Son” doesn’t count for shit. My wife can mark perfect time with no music at all. Christ, one time in training her MCpl made her unit all put on their gas masks and mark time while singing Oh Canada, and they didn’t get to stop until it was perfect. And no, they did not have a fucking drum or backing music. She’s not on a drill team; Canada doesn’t have drill teams. This is just something they do because it’s part of the basic standard of being a soldier.

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      The key difference is you can actually march to that music. Fortunate son is slightly too fast for a proper pace which is why the front of the one group was wavy and people were out of step. Also if anyone was actually calling cadence, the people on the left side probably wouldn’t have been able to hear it over the music.

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        Marching can be done to no music.

        Side ranks keep sideeye on the element leader to the side, everyone else keeps side eye to the person on their right.

        There are also the marshall with the whips. If all else fails, you keep cadence to that.

        In a silent march, you keep in step with the “Clomp clomp clomp”, which also, is quite easy to do, and is done often.

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            Your left, your left, your left righto left righto left right your left, keep in step, keep in step, step, step, step…

            Runs through my head when walking alone, 15 years later.

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          True, but keeping time with the steps of those around you while music is playing at a completely different tempo is not something I would trust a non-musically trained soldier to do well.

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            My wife falls in step beside me without even realizing she’s doing it. You learn this day one of basic up here. By the time you get out of BMQ it’s instinct. And it doesn’t eat up any training time, because your practice is just walking in time with your unit every time you go anywhere.

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              I don’t know much about the military, but I am very familiar with the marching arts. Discerning between two different tempos and keeping your feet in time with only one of them is a lot harder than it sounds. Unless there is time allotted to learning that skill specifically, I doubt any group of soldiers are going to do it flawlessly.

              They may not fall apart, but its not going to look pretty. And apparently, it didn’t. If every soldier is capable of doing this, then why is there a whole post about how badly they did it?

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    This is a false dichotomy, as though you can either be productive or learn to march. Obviously you could do both.

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      No, you can NOT learn to march like they do in North Korea or China and have any time left in your day to do an actual job or even train to fight. That crap takes time.

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      Broadly speaking, yeah. We send every member of the US Army through “Basic Training” even though 95% of them will never actually fire a gun or climb over a fence or jog ten miles in the rain for the rest of their careers.

      Parade March is a thing we don’t bother to drill into units (except specifically tasked “Parade Units” that exist to do little circus acts for the high command’s amusement). But we could do it instead of the GI Joe training for the private class janitorial staff if we felt like it.

      The bigger picture is that the US Military is a fountain of economic waste, social abuse, and pointless bloodshed in the name of machismo. Trump’s parade is just the cherry on a seven layer cake of squandered national wealth.

      But it’s the thing liberals will fixate on, because we can’t ever actually say “The Pentagon sucks ass and makes the world an objectively worse place to live in”. It always has to be about this one Great Man Of History doing things wrong in a way his hypothetical liberal alternative would not.

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        Parade March is a thing we don’t bother to drill into units (except specifically tasked “Parade Units” that exist to do little circus acts for the high command’s amusement).

        That is not accurate.

        https://youtu.be/aeFltEjzR2Y?t=1212

        Soldiers utilize D&C every day, by and large. Even when running. Its how soldiers are moved, as a group, from point A to point B.

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    It’s very important for soldiers to focus on doing “important work to defend our nation” (murdering brown kids) and that they’re “productive at their jobs” (bombing hospitals)

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      I came here for this but found people already pointing it out.

      DeFeNdInG as seen by everyone else: going to places 5k km away and murdering every living thing there.

      VeTeRaNs as seen by everyone else: steroid micro-penis assholes murdering women & children

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        The bravest and most honorable men in our nation are doing the hard, honest work of fucking all those military wives while their chud husbands are deployed abroad.