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      I might as well not have one here in the states, I’m not wealthy enough. My health plan is to walk it off until I die young

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      I have family over there and they told me that health system went from one of the best pre brexit to quite bad today with huge waiting times for ambulance.

      We may are a bit spoiled by the german health system.

      And yes, i know that US have one of the most extensive and worst health systems for a so called first world country.

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      I’m only across the water in Ireland and I can tell you from experience that ambulances arrive quickly, are free and so is the treatment. The UK health system is measurably better than ours so I feel like this is plucked from somewhere that the sun doesn’t shine.

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      Are you saying the UK doesn’t have ambulances?

      That’s a ridiculous and easily disprovable claim.

      Also aren’t the nonexistent uk ambulances free?

      As in not charged at a rate of thousands of dollars, they’d still be tax funded I assume.

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    You should see major cities in latin america if you think that’s bad. In many countries it’s like they don’t even care.

    The US has no excuse though, we should be way, way better.

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      I’m from Chile and whenever you’re in a jam and an ambulance needs to get through, cars move out of their way to let it through. In Santiago, at least. We also stop at zebra crossings to let pedestrians cross.

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        Education quality is a tip of the iceberg.

        Talk to someone who went to a public school in say the dominican republic. I’ve heard stories of years of kids just waiting around with next to no actual teaching involved from someone who was physically there in their childhood. If you don’t go to a private school odds are you aren’t going to get any real education or structure beyond what you pick up at home… and odds are your parents were in the same boat.

        The US education system has been nothing like that, it is going to get like that in the south though. In remote low population areas it’s very possible to get bad - and clearly some teenage pregnancies disrupt things in the US, but in the DR it’s a lot worse.

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    Where I live in Canada traffic moves for anything EMS related with lights(other than a tow truck unless of course they have an EMS escort). We pull up on to sidewalks, curbs, and anything really to clear a path. Heck I’ve seen people put their vehicle into a snow bank pr a ditch to get out of the way. I guess we’re of the mindset that others will do the same for us should we be the ones awaiting EMS to arrive or deliver us to an ER.

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    Seen this happen in European countries too, eventhough I despise american fascist pigs

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      Yes this is a NY City thing. Everywhere else we all move out of the way.

      But fuck it, US deserves some negative propaganda, so have at it!

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    In case you wanna see a “RETTUNSGASSE!!!” (= rescuing lane) in action this clip is what it looks like ideally. If traffic slows down for whatever reason or if there are sirens in the distance drivers are supposed to assume this formation pre-emptively and misusing it is a crime.

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      So I actually experienced one of these on 64W between VA Beach and Richmond. It was amazing how everyone including myself just instinctively moved to the sides of the road. It’s not a hard concept it just takes cooperation.

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        Also space to pull over is important. Here in the midwest we have room to move over and everyone does, honestly way more than is necessary. Like people start to pull over a few blocks in front of the ambulance if they just hear the siren.

        New York’s problem in the video is the congestion makes it hard to move out of the way when there is nowhere to go.

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      What I find strange in Germany is that there is literally an emergency lane on the right side of the highway but they block it to make a corridor in the center

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        That’s the “Standstreifen” and it’s used for towing, parking after an accident or other emergency and as an extra lane during traffic jams and road work. That’s too many use cases to make them also suitable for emergency vehicles.

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          Ah ok I didn’t know, where I live you can’t use it for towing or as an extra lane (wpu get fined if you do that)

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            Not everyone can use it for towing and it only doubles as an extra lane when the road signs say so but my point is emergency services can’t rely on it being available.

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      That’s how it’s supposed to work in the US too. Maybe it depends on the state but in MN at least it’s illegal to fail to pull over for emergency vehicles. If you see any emergency vehicle on the road running with lights on then you are supposed to stop and pull off to the side so that they can have the whole road.

      The video in the OP looks nuts to me too. I’ve never seen people fail to pull over for an emergency vehicle in my area.

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        This is how it is in Manhattan when it’s busy. It’s not so much failing to pull over so much as there is nowhere to go.

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        This is a very NYC phenomenon, everywhere else I’ve ever been and lived in the US moves out of the way for emergency vehicles with their lights and sirens on, I’ve seen both issues where there is nowhere to go and times where people just don’t care, every time I’m in NYC I hope to not need medical attention

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      At about 10 seconds on the video you can actually see a guy getting out of the way of the ambulance to let it through, though he was not doing it preemptively and the guy ahead of him couldn’t care less.

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    Lol, as if this hasn’t been how it’s always been… These things are for rich people, the rest of us find another way, or you know, die.

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      I’d say waiting for an ambulance while a loved one dies in front of you just because assholes wouldn’t get out of the way is more annoying. No doubt followed by some health insurance bullshit that makes zero sense in any other country. But no, it’s the tourist who’s wrong.

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    So why not put paramedics on a e-bike, so they can actually arrive at the scene first. It’s not like the patient gets put into the ambulance immediately on arrival. Might as well have someone take care of the patient before the ambulance arrives. Just put a e-bike in the back of the ambulance or rack it on the front.

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      Shitty solution to a shitty problem in my opinion. Quite often patients are indeed put into the ambulance immediately. Ambulances also have tons of medical equipment, none of which you can fit on a bike, obviously. Then there’s the question of paramedic safety, especially given how many road accidents there are in the US. Plus, that would be a major cost for healthcare providers. Instead of 2 paramedics, you’d need 3 or 4, since they can’t go solo, again due to safety concerns. Overall this isn’t something we should be looking for alternative solutions to. You can’t keep making workarounds for systemic issues, like horrible road/traffic design or society being severely uneducated.

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        Our service uses bikes in highly urban areas, but I can’t speak to the pros or cons of it as I don’t have the brain power right now. It’s a large service, but not anywhere near a significant part of the service. Urban stuff, large gatherings stuff, terrain stuff with quads and even a boat.

        They carry 100lbs of gear.

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      That sounds like a legit idea. Most important 1st aid gear can fit in a backpack. Inhaler. Defibrillator. Tracheostomy Tube. Etc including stuff to stop bleeding, including the knowledge of how to do it correctly.