Not Me
Not everyone. But it’s definitely very overrepresented here, including some large communities of extremists that I don’t typically see elsewhere.
Overrepresented may not be correct, the majority of the english speaking world is far to the left of the US. Even the US population is like 60-70% left leaning, it’s just that the left has lower voter participation rates.
Even the US population is like 60-70% left leaning, it’s just that the left has lower voter participation rates.
Left leaning vs leftist is a much higher bar and I’d wager under 20% of the US (voting) population is leftist. That’s just based on my memory of how few leftist representatives we have in congress… Far from an exact science.
I am definitely a liberal, but I’m by no means a leftist.
Left leaning Americans are still on the right compared to most countries.
This used to be true, but I don’t think it is anymore. Or at least my perception is that some parts of the american left are way leftier than the europeans left are.
Being in so close proximity to the obvious evil of communist regimes might have something to do with it.
There are no communist regimes…
Both Russia and China are authoritarian dictatorships operating on a semblance of oligarchy controlled capitalism at this point.
Not at the moment (especially Russia, who doesn’t even claim to be), but they definitely were in the past.
What’s changed is people’s outspokenness about their political views.
The American Left, on average, would be considered well in the middle of the right in most of the world. This has resulted in “far left” in the US encompassing everything from global centrism to far left extremism. As such, using the term is pretty pointless without adding enough context so others know what is included.
Lemmy definitely has a super majority of people who are politically left. Lemmy also has a very large amount of extremely politically left people. I am not sure why this is the case.
However, not every Lemmy user is politically left.
I am not sure why this is the case.
Because Lemmy was created by leftists having their communities banned from reddit. It is and always will be a leftist platform, same as whatever garbage Trump made will be a right wing platform.
always will be a leftist platform,
I don’t think that’s the case.
Being decentralized means that anybody could create a right-wing instance, and it may be able to federate with enough other instances that it becomes big. If it gets enough users, it could make Lemmy more right-leaning overall.
It’s not inevitable that Lemmy stays left-wing. But a centralized platform like Twitter or “whatever garbage Trump made” can be curated to be right-wing only. Just as lemmy.ml and perhaps some other instances may be curated to be left-wing only.
There is zero chance any instance that is a right wing instance would not be instantly defederated from every single other instance on Lemmy. Like, actually zero chance.
I disagree.
Right-wing doesn’t have to mean far-right, extremist, rampant bigotry, or conspiracy theorist stuff.
Besides, many instances are more to the right than lemmy.ml, which I think was the original instance. So overall, Lemmy has already been shifting “to the right” for a while! Lol
Well, if you have ever happened upon any “conservative” community on Lemmy like I have, you start to notice that they are often victims of vote brigading. I once saw a community where literally every single post in it was like, -90 or lower. Now, I still blocked it because I block all political communities, but it was not at all surprising that that was going on. If that is happening, if the instance doesnt get instantly defederated (guaranteed Beehaw defederates from it), then it will absolutely get brigaded on an hourly basis.
I see; interesting. I how “conservative” are you talking? haha
I have no idea, I didn’t spend much time on the community page past seeing one post very negatively downvoted. Then I went to the community page to block it and literally every post I saw was negative. So I scrolled down to see more because maybe it was a fluke or something, and literally every single comment was very downvoted. I don’t remember anything about the posts, community, or its instance other than that the word “conservative” was in the community name and the posts were definitely on the right of politics.
No.
I am. I think you’ll find we’re mostly on a leftist spectrum relative to America’s Overton Window.
No, I hate the term as it’s usually used as a pejorative and is so reductive as to be essentially meaningless. I’m a democratic socialist.
That’s a leftist. You’re a leftist, buddy.
I relate a bit, though. I think it’s cringe when socialists call each other “comrade”.
Eh, it adds variety. I’d grow rather bored of addressing everyone as “friend”, “buddy”, etc.
Is a communist the same as a progressive? A democratic socialist the same as an anarchist? Call me what you want but like I said, it’s reductive and meaningless.
Progressives aren’t a thing, it’s simply an Amaerica counter label to conservatives so they have something to attack.
And as an anarchist, I’ve no problem being lumped in with like minded views.
We’re leftists and proud of it.
Progressives aren’t a thing
Because you say so?
Nonsense.
Yes. It’s an American term used to describe those who are in opposition to conservative views. It’s not an ideology.
But please, tell me what being a progressive values compared to any other leftist. What makes a progressive different from a anarchist, communist, or a dem soc who have defined values and beliefs?
The desire to make everyone’s life better by progressing appropriate legislation.
That’s so vague that a conservative could call themselves progressive because they think it’s saving lives to ban abortion.
State ownership of utilities for one.
What, progressives are in favour of state owned utils or aren’t? Explain yourself properly.
Communism is a conservative authoritarian dogma. The exact opossite of progress… or anarchy.
Lol, said confidently by someone who very clearly has not read anything marxist
“In Marxist philosophy, the dictatorship of the proletariat is a condition in which the proletariat, or working class, holds control over state power. The dictatorship of the proletariat is the transitional phase from a capitalist and a communist economy…”
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictatorship_of_the_proletariat
Except, there’s no such thing as a communist economy, so the transitional phase lasts as long as there’s capital to reallocate. Then peoole start to flee across the barbed wire and the facade falls down.
The statement “communism is a conservative authoritarian dogma” being backed up by referencing the idea of the dictatorship of the proletariat is… definitely something
there is no such thing as a communist economy
Can you back this claim up? Market economy is a term for a reason. An economy doesn’t have to be market to be an economy. Have you never heard of a planned economy?
the transitional phase lasts as long as there’s capital to relocate
No. The transitional phase lasts as long there is classes that necessitate a state.
You have a very simplistic understanding of marxism that cannot be rectified through a fucking wikipedia search. Read the source material or stfu
You’re thinking of ML tankies.
Communism is a stateless, classless, system where people enact mutualism and socialism without state coercion.
What makes this thing you’re describing, not anarchism?
I think you’re thinking of anarchocommunism specifically. Which is “not all communism”™.
State-based communism is a thing, that many people usually called tankies by others, do believe in.
The difference between non-ML tankie communism and anarchism is the means of getting there.
Communists want a vanguard state to slowly whittle away.
Anarchists want to skip that step.
Why must we divide the tribe? I don’t know how leftist who can’t identify as such plans to exercise collective power. But you do you.
It’s more embarrassing when people use the words “cringe” and “based.”
No, not everyone.
I tried my left hand. Its just not the same.
Is every “Conservative” stupid, hateful, racist, and bigoted?
Maybe not stupid
Those become politicians and billionaire fellators.
They are pretty common here yeah, lemmy was built by communists
This is our social platform!
The peoples platform
I don’t know that I’d describe Blue MAGA as left of anything, since they’re an pro-market authoritarian movement, but whatever they are, they’re either a majority or a VERY vocal minority.
Nope, but the dangerous ideologies are the norm here. It was quite shocking after switching from reddit.
Dangerous for who?
(I’m not though, but we’re definitely a downtrodden, highly abused and much ridiculed minority in these parts)
Uh, negative. I am a meat popsicle.
