• deafboy@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    Communism is a conservative authoritarian dogma. The exact opossite of progress… or anarchy.

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      You’re thinking of ML tankies.

      Communism is a stateless, classless, system where people enact mutualism and socialism without state coercion.

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        What makes this thing you’re describing, not anarchism?

        I think you’re thinking of anarchocommunism specifically. Which is “not all communism”™.

        State-based communism is a thing, that many people usually called tankies by others, do believe in.

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          The difference between non-ML tankie communism and anarchism is the means of getting there.

          Communists want a vanguard state to slowly whittle away.

          Anarchists want to skip that step.

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        “In Marxist philosophy, the dictatorship of the proletariat is a condition in which the proletariat, or working class, holds control over state power. The dictatorship of the proletariat is the transitional phase from a capitalist and a communist economy…”

        https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dictatorship_of_the_proletariat

        Except, there’s no such thing as a communist economy, so the transitional phase lasts as long as there’s capital to reallocate. Then peoole start to flee across the barbed wire and the facade falls down.

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          The statement “communism is a conservative authoritarian dogma” being backed up by referencing the idea of the dictatorship of the proletariat is… definitely something

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          there is no such thing as a communist economy

          Can you back this claim up? Market economy is a term for a reason. An economy doesn’t have to be market to be an economy. Have you never heard of a planned economy?

          the transitional phase lasts as long as there’s capital to relocate

          No. The transitional phase lasts as long there is classes that necessitate a state.

          You have a very simplistic understanding of marxism that cannot be rectified through a fucking wikipedia search. Read the source material or stfu

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            I could read the lifework of Marx, but it wouldn’t change the unviability of planned economy. My parents and grandparents lived in one.

            If we ever stumble upon some kind of mathematical or technological miracle, able to predict the future, I’d be worth to try again. Until then, socialism is a dangerous cult.

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              “Despite knowing nothing about this economic system I am convinced of its failure due to a single anecdotal experience where it did fail”

              Have you even bothered to look at why it failed?