People are storming the streets and town halls, Elon is dissolving the whole country and Trump is busy tending Putin’s toes. Where the fuck are the democrats in all this crisis? It feels AOC is doing all the heavylifting while all the rest of them smug bunch are just watching with “told ya dis was gunn happen” drawn on their face.
Please tell me my ignorant ass is just blatantly wrong because I ain’t getting any news.
I’m not sure why this is directed solely towards democrats. They’re not the only ones affected by the change towards dictatorship.
-the better question is:
What is ANYONE doing to help?
If you want the answer to your question, just go read. A lot of people are doing a lot already. It’s just not Washington Democrats.
But if you want to know why we should be targeting the Democrats, it’s because we know what the Republicans in Washington were able to do when Obama was president and when Biden was present. The Dems have power, but they are pretending that they don’t.
And we the people are calling out to these Democrats and telling them hey, if you want the country to survive, you need to level up. And if you don’t, and the country does somehow survive anyway, we will make sure to throw you to the curb as soon as we can. But we really do need your help now because the situation is s***.
Exactly. Republicans don’t have a filibuster proof super majority in the Senate so Dems could filibuster the Senate to death to block Trump appointments from being voted on like Republicans did to Dems, but no, rich white liberals aren’t hurt by Trump’s fascism so they don’t care
Like who? The Republicans have bought into his death cult wholesale. Their god-emperor can do no wrong.
Nothing of consequence, nobody is.
Yeah, here and there some may say that ooohh, trump bad!
He just beheaded the military which is literally the pre-last step needed. All he needs to do now is put trump loyalists in those positions, have them purge the rest of the top to ensure all are pro trump and them what’s going to stop him?
AOC? She’ll mysteriously disappear, next question.
Who is going to stop these fuckwads?
Next up, Canada will become the 51st state. Don’t wanna? Nuke Vancouver, who is going to stop him? What, Europe? They can get a few nukes too if they don’t like it, he has enough.
Next up, Panama becomes a US state. Don’t like it? See a pattern?
Next up, Greenland, and so on.
NOBODY HAS DONE ANYTHING. The US is always ALWAYS boasting about self sacrifice and the one hero who saves all, or maybe a group that bands together and goes against all odds and die in the process and and and… Nothing. So far the biggest actions I’ve seen were people resigning in protest, making even easier for trump WTF.
Ooohh, ther ehave been protests! Some cities had dozens of people, some even had hundreds!! Whooooo, Cheeto must be shitting bricks now!!
Nobody has done anything.
These are people whondobt care about laws
These are people that don’t care about consequences, nor do they have the ability to think about consequences
These are people who don’t care if you, or millions like you will die. Fuck you, die already, give us what we want.
In part, these are people who are working diligently to bring about the apocalypse so that jeebus christ will return or some delusional shit like that, and now they have access to nukes. Great going assholes (yes, if you’re American, that means you) YOU DIDNT DO ANYTHING TO FUCKING STOP ANY OF THIS.
Oh, what? You think that you did your job by voting? Well that sure wasn’t enough. These fuckers will fuck the world, when is someone going to do something to actually stop all of this shit?
Honestly, I don’t think anyone can do anything anymore anyway. Something could have been done by Biden. He had the extraordinary presidential powers, he could have simply stopped trump by pulling a trump. He refused, needed to do “the right thing” and fuck the world over in the process. Well done, asshole, hope you feel good about yourself.
I think we’re all fucked. I used to worry about climate change as I have a reasonable understanding of what it takes to stop it, let alone start to reverse it. It will take a huge effort and sacrifice from everyone in the world and we’ve done shit all and don’t care. Don’t worry if you live through trump (there is a good non zero chance that you won’t), climate change will end you.
Now I’m just worried about the world being destroyed beyond repair by trump already because again, nobody cares to actually stop all of them.
I’m kind of in the zone where I kust let it happen , once they come for me, I’ll be happy with my wife, we had an awesome run together, when we die, we will be happy in eachothers arms.
Luigi did something. We need more Luigis, but I fear we will get peasant-brain brown shirts instead
I highly recommend Leeja Miller to understand what needs to be done and how much of that the Democrats are doing currently
Just saw the first 30 seconds but i love her naivete on this. She thinks they’re just coming for people’s rights. Aaawww, cute.
Trump just beheaded the army, making sure trump loyalists are all that’s left.
What do you think will happen when a bunch of death cult christofascists who want the apocalypse to bring Christ back get access to nukes?
What so you think will happen when a mob boss who doesn’t care millions of deaths, who wants to play land grab and steal canada, Greenland, latín America etc gets access to nukes with nobody to control his impulses?
So far things are escalating rapidly and “muh rights” is just the next rung on the ladder. I’m looking three to four rungs ahead and I’m very fucking worried as these shits have shown to give nothing about who dies, as long as they get better off. They also have shown to have no concept of consequences and again, they have access to nukes and now fill control of a military who now will say no to nothing.
And you’re complaining about rights. You think protests will do anything? Not that anyone wants to protest, recent “well stop the city” protests got sometimes even hundreds of people out, ooohh, craaazaaayy! Call me again once you have 100 million people in the streets, those hundreds do less than shit.
I’m sorry, I’m not trying to be a dixk, not to you, o don’t know you and I know the YouTuber and I know what she’s saying but I think we’re already way, WAY past all that.
Trump is speed running solidifying his position and once he has full control of all the branches that can stop or slow him, the gloves will come off.
Think it’s bad now? Wait a year. Think you can do anything to stop him? You can’t. Even if you could get millions of protesters in total, even if you could get tens of millions of protesters, its already too late for that, you’ll just look funny walking and screaming in the streets, they won’t give a fuck. You want tos strike? Paralyze the country? Wait until police starts killing protesters and see how long it takes for everyone to stop and go home to cry in a hole.
Stopping trump now requires someone extraordinary to do something extraordinary. I’m not implying anything, I’m simply saying that us plebs are already out of the game.
Maybe maybe maybe if all Republicans cut themselves off and just all Democrats,.maybe they could do something? Them again, too many Democrats are already saying to just support trump and work with him so yeah, forget about all that too.
I don’t know what can be done at this point. I can just only say “fuckyou Americans, all of you, for letting this happen, for unleashing this hell over the world”
If tomorrow Yellowstone would erupt and destroy the entirety of the US, I would just be relieved
What? Leeja Miller has no illusions about Trump being a fascist , Project 2025, or how Trump’s 2nd term will ruin Democracy. She’s a lawyer, so you won’t see her advocating for a violent uprising. She’s focused on what to do within our current institutions to fight back against Trump and Fascism. If you’re looking for revolutionary thought, I would highly recommend Franz Fanon
She’s a lawyer, so you won’t see her advocating for a violent uprising
Ah, yes, because the Nazis were famously beaten by lawyers…
We know from history that fascism cannot be beaten peacefully. We cannot appease or argue our way out of this problem.
You have to win elections to do stuff.
Compared to the Republicans literally blocking anything passing the Senate with a minority.
I mean, they DID tell you dis was gunn happen. Twice.
Spent four years drilling “but her emails” into your thick skulls and then you did it again because egg prizes or Gaza or Cheney or whatever.
Takes balls to sit out the rise of fascism, but let’s be honest, it’s not undeserved.
“Deserved” is a bit loaded. Americans are exceptionally stupid and ill-informed, but that applies to our elected leaders, as well.
Does someone who is easily manipulated deserve to be manipulated? If so, isn’t that precisely the form of myopic conservativism that has overrun the right wing? Government for the people, by the people, is intended to protect all the people and enshrine our rights. Protecting victims from predators ought to be a primary function of law, and if you don’t believe that, then yeah you deserve the leadership we got.
Biden DID say he was not going to run a 2nd time. Biden broke many promises, gaslit voters on Gaza, and was a televised corpse at the debate. trump is fucking terrible but Biden slow walked it back to trump by not giving another candidate enough time to run a campaign. It takes balls to think Biden could stand up against fascism when he can’t even stand up to genocide. This is deserved, but the voters never had a chance.
What in the absolute hell does that even mean? How does that work? There was an election, there were two candidates, one was Trump. There WAS a chance. An obvious choice, at that.
Should Biden not have run in the first place? Obviously. Whether his approach to Gaza would have change anything is debatable (he’d have been crucified regardless), but let’s say it would.
It wasn’t Biden who had to “stand up against fascism”. It was the electorate. And they didn’t. You talk about it like it was not their choice, like it was an oopsie inflicted upon them by evil Dems and not a choice they made. They continue to make, in fact. That is insane.
As democracy gets eroded I will be more likely to cut them some slack, but as of now? Anybody that didn’t vote for Harris is a collaborationist.
The american voters gave republicans the presidency, the senate and the house.
They also got control of the SCOTUS so the democrats don’t have many options right now.
Hopefully the people smarten up for the 2026 midterms and actually vote.
Not only that, but Trump spent the last 8 years purging the republican party of disloyalist. The first term Trump met resistance by his own party. This time anyone left who would resist him is gone and anyone who wants to will just be removed shortly after.
Exactly. What specifically are the democrats to do at this point?
- delay as much as possible in the Senate: https://indivisible.org/resource/explainer-how-senate-democrats-can-delay-defy-trumps-agenda-procedural-hardball
- use local government to resist the federal government: https://indivisible.org/resource/guide#chapter3
Centrists will ignore this and keep acting powerless.
Malingerers.
Literally even a single thing at all would be nice
Pretend they are Republicans and start breaking the rules.
More emails asking for donations? Have we tried this? Man I’m stumped
Congress is in charge of the money. I think they need Johnson acting to do anything about Elon though.
Someone more up on the mechanics should clarify.
Well, they certainly didn’t help by running a candidate that got destroyed in the only primary she ran in. I’m hoping they will step up and run some solid candidates next round. It’s fucking embarrassing they lost to Trump…twice.
Based off their reactions to every thing that’s being going on it seems to me that they have learned absolutely nothing.
If the 2028 election was happening tomorrow I think the Democrats would lose again.
They’re already posturing Pete Buttigege to be their next chosen one. I wonder if the dems will even bother with primaries this time around.
Pete Buttigege
Jesus christ. And when he bombs they’ll go, “everyone wanted a younger candidate!”
when he bombs they’ll go, “everyone wanted a younger candidate!”
The worlds on fire and they’re worried about the color of the wallpaper.
If the 2028 election was happening tomorrow I think the Democrats would lose again.
Absolutely. They’d probably try to court Mitt Romney to run under their ticket.
It turns out that when you take all of the power to do anything away from someone, they can’t do anything 🤷♂️ who could have possibly seen this coming?
Conservative parties have frequently been the minority party but have consistently been able to obstruct, block, and fight against progress because they fight dirty. The Democratic party has always been the party of “we can’t sink to their level” or the “at least we aren’t the Republicans” party. If they were willing to be aggressive at all, we would still have Roe, minimum wage would be higher, and green energy would be the norm. However, the Democratic party has been content to be the party of not rocking the boat, or the party of the status quo, rather than the party of Republicans and Democrats have worked together to give rise to these freaks.
Democrats only have the power that you give them. When Trump lost an election, his followers ransacked the Capital. When Pelosi opposed Republicans, her husband got his face smashed in.
What exactly do you expect AOC to do?
Start organizing. Which she, at least, is.
The neolibs?
Lol.
Organizing what? She did as much as humanly possible in the last election but the country voted for Trump.
Oh wow, a slight majority voted against neoliberalism.
Better bend over and take it forever.
I was actually thinking about this. What if Trump is just a Martin shkreli
Hear me out. The board of directors for pharma used Martin as a Patsy to do something illegal. Martin takes the heat while the board reaps the benefits and they throw Martin to the Sharks.
What if this whole thing was all an act and they’re all using trump as a power grab. He’s tearing it all down and it benefits all of them, Democrat and Republican. When trump leaves, there will be so much power given to the owner class in the country while regulation and oversight is not what it was.
This is essentially what trump is doing with musk. He’s going to"fire" musk as soon as he’s done enough damage then go back to claiming he’s making America great by rehiring people to replace the ones musk is firing. Only the replacements won’t be as competent then leave the crippled departments to the Dems and republicans will say “look at how poorly the Dems are running the place”
I think it’s the other way around. Rich people like Musk helped trump reach the white house. Now they’re making him do their bidding. Trump isn’t the master like his base thinks. He’s a puppet for the rich.
You didn’t vote for the Democrats. Why would they do anything for you?
Where did OP say they didn’t vote Democrat?
This is what Americans voted for.
Also a lot of people here on Lemmy shit all over Democrats and then they lose and then ask why Democrats aren’t doing anything for them. Talk about entitled. Lmao.
This is the same stupid rationale that people use to say that everyone in red states deserves to suffer.
The people who made affirmative votes for trump are the minority, it just so happens that our political system gives them a disproportionate say.
Yes, there is a large part of the population that didn’t vote, but that’s a feature of our shitty system, not a bug.
So either help, or shut the fuck up and get out of the way.
If you don’t vote and it bites you in the ass you only have yourself to blame. Lmao.
Hey real quick, what country do you live in? Just gonna look up what kinds of atrocities your government has committed and accuse you personally of being complicit.
The best thing that Democrats can do is come up with a popular governing vision and then storm back in the 2026 midterms.
Personally I would think this would have to compromise on immigration and the worst culture war excesses of the left, while emphasizing support for the working class and most importantly good governance.
They clearly haven’t capitulated rightward enough yet. You’ll gain nothing by abandoning solidarity with even more voters, but at least you’ll get the sheer joy of throwing vulnerable minorities under the bus.
class > race > “gender”
Really? Gender in quotes? Stop trying to attach your bigotry to progressivism.
Yes gender in quotes since there at least 7 different definitions floating around, some in the dictionary for decades, some floated on Tumblr circa 2012.
Yes gender in quotes since
Since bigotry.
If the Democrats had any guts, they’d revolt against their leadership and re-organize into a new far more aggressive left-leaning party. But they don’t have any guts, so that won’t happen. Maybe the new DNC chair can channel our anger into change?
They’re not a party on the left. Its not a question of guts. Why would a party in the right who is captured by corporations form a left party? That goes against their intentions
they’d revolt against their leadership and re-organize into a new far more aggressive left-leaning party
This is literally what we’ve been trying to do through primaries that no one will show up to. We can talk about the need for a progressive party all we want, but a good chunk of the reason the Democrats are the way they are is because centrist Democrats show up to vote in the primaries. Progressives do not.
Democrats have shown time and time again that they don’t give a shit what voters think which is why they keep losing elections. Biden and Harris wouldn’t even turn their back on Netanyahu even when it meant Trump would get reelected as all tbe polling showed. Progressives don’t bother with it because they’ll be ignored either way and you can only be ignored so many times before giving up on them listening. Blaming the voters for the actions of the party is just giving them cover for their ineptitude. Voters don’t decide their policy.
At this point they do little else than act as controlled opposition for the Republican party, so this is just our reality for the foreseeable future. Maybe if the leadership gets ousted, we’ll have a chance but it looks more like a new party will need to be formed and the Democrats go the way of the Whigs.
And progressives have shown they won’t show up to contest and defend elections outside of a few seats. They won’t invest in downballot races in case they lose the main race.
Progressives don’t bother with it because they’ll be ignored either way and you can only be ignored so many times before giving up on them listening.
Unless your contention is that the DNC has literally been changing/destroying primary votes, we simply have never shown up in the numbers needed to make the necessary changes in leadership. “Centrists” have, and they continue to do so. Sitting out does absolutely nothing to advance progressive causes inside or outside of the party.
As if voter turnout is the end-all-be-all metric for determining what people want. The DNC got up to quite a bit of fuckery in both 2016 and 2024. They had no issue sidelining Bernie from debates and news coverage, creating super delegates, and just plainly putting their thumb on the scales. In 2024, we didn’t even get a primary because old Joe went back on his “one term” promise and ran against every sane person’s advice, dropped out, and then a new equally unappealing candidate was hand picked for us. Who gives a shit what most centrists want when it’s clear that all they’re doing is choosing the “safe bet.” It’s no different from the person whose favorite music is whatever they’re currently playing on the radio. These people aren’t choosing anything. They’re just doing what they’re told.
Sitting out does absolutely nothing to advance progressive causes inside or outside of the party.
So does losing election after election because the DNC keeps backing the absolute worst candidates.
Reorganizing. That’ll stop Trump!
There is little the democrats could ever have done to prevent fascism without losing their funding. This is just becoming much more clear now that we are at the advent of fascism.
Thats not true they could have given up the elites to form a more grassroots par-hahahha im sorry I fucking can’t
And funding is always more important than preventing fascism.
