• Etterra@discuss.online
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    The minor technical barrier to entry, thankfully, throttles the amount of stupid the gets into community sites and such, like Lemmy. Remember that some gatekeeping can be a good thing because even anyone can use a thing, anyone will use that thing.

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    I mean I left that cesspool a while ago, but reddit being to liberal has fuckall to do with why I left it.

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    Funny, that’s exactly the inverse of how I feel anytime I check in on Reddit, but I was subscribed to a lot of conspiracy subreddits.

    They didn’t used to be like that 😢

    r/thedonald really was a plague.

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    I’d imagine they don’t, because we’re likely lumped in with Bluesky. And if some do make it here, they normally get reported on main instances, and their instances would unlikely remain federated for long.

    I guess they’re getting mad about arguing with themselves and are looking for the traditional captive audience they thought they had.

  • InternetCitizen2@lemmy.world
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    Im bombed by leftist propaganda

    They are correct, but not how they think. A big part of conservatism, even among the less fanatical, is to bury your head in the sand. I can see how peeking out for some air will seem like a flood of propaganda. Like that “final experiment” that just went down to dunk on flat earth, but for even the most mundane thing about how society works.

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      That’s not really true. Going to specific places for specific things is very different to putting one’s head in the sand. If you make such assumptions about your opposing tribes you’ll continue to increase social division, and that’s the core of this mess.

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        Unfortunately for them, saber rattling quasi dictators pushing Nazi ideologies, consorting with admitted neo Nazis, frequently spewing Nazi quotes, and doing the actual fucking Nazi salute… Kinda invades and consumes everyone’s life.

        And they sure don’t want you to bring it up. I can only guess because either they themselves are Nazis, or because they don’t want to feel or admit responsibility for the human scum they vote for.

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        The issue isn’t fucking “social division”.

        It’s that one of the established American political parties went bat shit crazy and abandoned every principle they ever had in the naked pursuit of bigotry and power.

        Any time you spread “both sides” bullshit, *you’re aiding a hard-right propaganda machine *

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          It’s that one of the established American political parties went bat shit crazy

          People have been saying this about the GOP since Goldwater. The Republicans aren’t going batshit crazy. This has always been their platform. This has always been their policy. For 60 years running. The party of the Southern Strategy and the Red Scare hasn’t materially changed. It’s the Democrats (or, at least, the rank and file of the party) that has shifted from edgy white middle class GenX shitlibs to gender fluid, racially mixed, multicultural dirt poor Zoomers.

          This much the Crowderverse absolutely has right. The progressive wing of the Democratic Party is breaking away from the traditional small-c conservative evangelical white nationalist roots. Biden/Harris campaigned like Bill Clinton and lost because their base no longer has a stomach for Clintonian liberalism.

          Meanwhile, the Republican base isn’t changing. They’re being Based and Trad and trying to replicate all the moods of the 1950s, absent an economy powered by trillions in new post-war cheap public capital. So they’re just grasping scams, losing a bunch of money, growing increasingly economically anxious, blaming migrants/transgender tweens/Chinese TikTok dances, and doubling down on old school American fascism.

          Any time you spread “both sides” bullshit, *you’re aiding a hard-right propaganda machine *

          There’s no shame in recognizing a social divide that’s expanding over time. But there’s a fundamental difference between buying into right-wing hysteria about shoplifting gangs or transgender Mexican ISIS and acknowledging that your Boomer parents/grandparents are drowning in their own nostalgia while you’re moving on to greener ideological pastures.

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              the post of the previous commenter was nuanced.

              usually it is a good thing, but since the far-right is blatantly nazi, there are some risk with “nuance”

              overall, the previous comment seems to be analyzing how this divide is happening.

              my only complaint is that the comment doesn’t make clear who are the fuckers who are dirving the social divide (spoilers: the right who is nostaligic about the post-war period and want to create a “new” post war period by, well, going full nazi)

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                Weevil has some hot takes but I don’t really disagree with this one. You could rephrase it as “times are changing and conservatives don’t want to change” and no one would deny it.

                Agreed about who’s creating those wedge issues as well but I’ll even get conspiratorial and blame shadowy right-wing think tanks.

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        Visiting my family members that are conservative and their friends tell me their head is in the sand. After so long under, any dose of reality is too high for them.

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        Going to specific places for specific things is very different to putting one’s head in the sand.

        Going to /r/politics and panicking because its not politics I like is putting one’s head in the sand.

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    They’re already here, coming in hot with wonderful takes like

    !conservative@lemmy.world if anyone wants to drop downvotes

    According to .ml, .world is supposed to be an echo chamber, but yet allows shithole misinformation spreading comms like that

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        I prefer to tag rather than block so I can still call out/down out their BS

        Also don’t forget that Kaboom guy too!

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          Kaboom’s account is from reddthat where they disabled down votes. I don’t think they have any clue how rejected their opinions are. Talk about snowflake.

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            If I picked an instance without downvotes for my agenda-posting account, I think on some level I’d know there were grumpy clicks headed my way

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      No need to brigade other people for disagreeing with you. If their views are harmful, their community will get banned by lemmy.world so it’s not your problem.

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        My screenshot is literally of harmful misinformation

        community will get banned by lemmy.world so it’s not your problem.

        LMAO I’ve been waiting for that to happen for months

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          It’s hateful bs, but it isn’t harmful. It’s a stupid take on a current talking point from the orange admin. It’s not picking on anyone. Wait for the actually harmful stuff, like misgendering people and racism and simply downvote this particular dumbass comment. (I’m going by the headline / subj, as I’m already exhausted from this week’s bullshit.)

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            The kind of misinformation I posted a screenshot of (which btw is an actual “article” they’re spreading around) is how the groundwork gets laid for the “actually” harmful stuff, so in essence it is harmful because it will enable them to do far more harmful crap later. Or rather allow them to get away with it.

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              Ok, but it’s also easily debunkable, and you can’t moderate away stupid. What they posted isn’t illegal misinformation according to EU law. I’d rather they do their misinformation in a community here than on Twitter or Truth Social.

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        Yeah, but the feed is full of actual articles like “Climate change is real and there’s so much proof” and “Clarence Thomas wants to end freedom of the press”

        Welcome to Lemmy, shitheads, have some facts.

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        My instance doesn’t block very much, so I made sure to block that one myself.

    • Zonetrooper@lemmy.world
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      .ml complaining about being an echo chamber. I didn’t realize today was comedy day all around the political spectrum.

    • cm0002@lemmy.world
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      Nah fuck that they already have their own space and even whole platforms, Xitter, Facebook/Instagram, and “Truth” Social

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    Cries about propaganda inside of a propaganda sub. r/Conservative users are an incredible bunch.

  • empireOfLove2@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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    They’ve tried a few times on their own instances (ExplodingHeads). They got purged and defederated so fast that they gave up as I’ve not seen more than 1 or 2 spammers shown up since.

  • ThePowerOfGeek@lemmy.world
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    Nah, they’ll probably flee to one of those alt-right dollar store reddit replacements that popped up a few years ago. Assuming they are still in operation.

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    I read some of their garbage. They are in total denial as usual. They think it’s all bots, apparently can’t comprehend that so many people would be revolted by nazis.

  • UnderpantsWeevil@lemmy.world
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    getting spammed with Bluesky

    This is such a weird sentiment. As though links to any information outside the walled garden is inherently worthless.

    every subreddit has been astroturfed to the extreme

    Hi, hello, yes. Welcome to the year 2016.

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      They equate bluesky with leftists because its where most peopme went when twitter got too racist, and because now a lot of subreddits have banned links to twitter altogether.

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      Generally (reddit) cons don’t even want stuff from outside their own sub, so it makes sense why they’d hate any bluesky links