• FeelzGoodMan420@eviltoast.org
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    5 hours ago

    People are so fucking stupid. Liberals complain that Reddit is too conservative now. Conservatives complain that it’s too liberal. Well which is it?

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      Its both because they pander to the popular, which is why anything thays actually useful, funny, or satirical gets banned on that site.

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      3 hours ago

      That’s the problem with reddit

      Mods have complete control how left or right a given community is so you will always see the one you don’t like if you look for it

  • ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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    Honestly, I kind of hope they do.

    Every time they experience the slightest indication that their views aren’t normal or reasonable, they lose a little bit of confidence and a little bit of power.

    Think about the “weird” moment last summer. Walz had Republicans sputtering and whining about how they totally aren’t weird at all. The best Trump could come up with was “no u!” I think, if Harris had maintained that energy, she’d have been inaugurated this week. And speaking of this week, Trump is all offended and in a tizzy because an Episcopal priest read him the words of Jesus on Tuesday.

    The slightest speedbump or disfavor spins them out.

    Now. What community on the internet is more disfavorable toward conservatives than Lemmy? It’s nothing but speedbumps for them over here. They’d last approximately an hour and a half, and they’d see a more united resistance than they’ve ever imagined from corporate-owned media. Some of them might even realize that the mainstream socials are actually preferential toward them, and maybe reevaluate some opinions. For a moment, they’d see how weird they are.

    Filter bubbles aren’t inherently bad. But when they’re holding together an odious group in a terrible shared delusion, they need to be popped. Lemmy might pop their bubble, at least a little bit.

    Let them come. I pity their bar tabs.

    • Bamboodpanda@lemmy.world
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      9 hours ago

      The moderation practices on that subreddit have created an environment where dissenting opinions are swiftly and permanently banned. This approach has fostered an echo chamber where only one perspective is allowed to thrive, reinforcing a cycle of confirmation bias and groupthink. As a result, most conservative posts lack depth and often resemble oversimplified memes rather than meaningful discourse.

      Even when an opposing viewpoint manages to slip through, it’s often dismissed as artificial or the work of bots. This mindset reveals how deeply entrenched their worldview has become—so much so that they struggle to believe that differing opinions could be genuine. It’s a surreal and unfortunate dynamic that stifles any chance of productive discussion.

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        A sure sign of their self delusion is that this sub admits “satire” posts, in what is supposed to be for discussing conservative topics.

        Because leftists are not as inconsiderate as them, they have to make up imaginary stories to expel their rancor.

      • ilinamorato@lemmy.world
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        7 hours ago

        Indeed! Which is why they need to be shown the real world. Lemmy isn’t that, but it could shock their systems into believing that /r/conservative isn’t, either.

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          I’ve been aware of the fediverse since the api-lypse but have just been lurking for a good while. I really hope we manage to find a social media system that doesn’t bow to censorship. We need to find a way that lets us decentralize servers to not rely on AWS.

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            That costs a lot of money. “Finding” that sort of thing is basically just going to involve donating a bunch of cash, on an ongoing basis.

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              6 hours ago

              Finding could also mean letting users share hosting responsibilities. Like making fediverse similar to torrenting.

  • Etterra@discuss.online
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    11 hours ago

    The minor technical barrier to entry, thankfully, throttles the amount of stupid the gets into community sites and such, like Lemmy. Remember that some gatekeeping can be a good thing because even anyone can use a thing, anyone will use that thing.

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    Lemmy is even worse. Can’t have any other opinion then what aligns with the leftist bluesky people or you’re down voted into oblivion. There is no room for nuance or a civil discussion. I don’t care I’m gonna be down voted and the orange man has some good ideas. I’m not from the US. Have a good day.

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        WOW! Nazis are worse than leftists, but both of them suck. I’m not from the US too, anyone care to explain?

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          11 hours ago

          Your comparing people who want trans rights and universal healthcare to people who want to shoot pregnant women in the back of the head and load their children into ovens and gas chambers.

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            You people are only listening to your own echo chamber, sniffing your own farts all day. Bunch of snowflakes.

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                  I left reddit because I was banned for saying “People can vote.” I find more nuanced discussions and less censorship here, it’s just that in a free non-corporate space conservatism is just an unpopular ideology when one of their leaders does a Nazi salute at the conservative winning presidential inauguration. But go ahead, put on your boots and uniform and maybe your Father will give you a medal for owning the libs.

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    Conservatism is for people who can’t think for them selves. They Can’t comprehend there are different needs for many different peoples. They need to be told how to live, love, and even act. Education can solve the issue but those kinds of people don’t want education they want everything to be under their control their ideology.

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      It’s the definitian of the Hobbesean “right”, that human nature is monstrous, beastly and war-like, and that we need to rely on a “better few” to monopolize violence to keep everyone in order. They don’t believe that people are capable of self-governance because they don’t do it themselves. The Rousseau “left” believe that we’re egalitarian by nature, and that we’re innately good in small populations but have naturally strayed from our egalitarian origins because of civilization. Anarchists understand that both of these are incorrect.

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    Every once in a great while the people of Reddit do the right thing and I’m proud of every one of them that took a stand. Even the BBC is calling it an awkward gesture and they aren’t owned by right wing billionaires in the US. Not ONE media news org here has called the obvious. Sanewashing. Wish I’d never heard the term.

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      The biggest issue is that the media is focusing on just this one incident in specific. They’re acting as if whether or not musk is a nazi hinges exclusively on if it was meant as a seig heil or not.

      Ultimately his nazi salute is just the latest in a very very long line of racist and intolerant shit he’s said, done, and perpetuated. Regardless or whether he seig heiled or not, he’s still a nazi.

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      I will play devil’s advocate. Media outlets are scared of being sued for defamation or scrutinised for what may turn out to be misleading news. That’s why there are always referring to “sources who spoke on the condition of anonymity” or adopt a mild language to refer to something. But if I am a news publisher, I would describe Musk’s gesture as “appears to be Nazi salute” or to that effect. It is still calling it out as it is, but I would still have plausible deniability.

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        Plus it’s likely that if you post any criticism of Musk whatsoever you get a lawsuit automatically. That’s what rich people do. They can afford it. Its like having a VPN or an alarm system on your house. They send their lawyers.

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        I see your point … Fear of retribution through the FCC is now a real thing. This is how it begins though - first they ban free speech and any dissent and then the ones that still stand up will be disappeared.

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    Wouldn’t you believe it, everything insults them, everyone is against them.

    Then why is conservatism still the most frequent mental disorder!?

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      John Stuart Mill has this to say:

      “I never meant to say that the Conservatives are generally stupid. I meant to say that stupid people are generally Conservative. I believe that is so obviously and universally admitted a principle that I hardly think any gentleman will deny it. Suppose any party, in addition to whatever share it may possess of the ability of the community, has nearly the whole of its stupidity, that party must, by the law of its constitution, be the stupidest party… It may be said that if stupidity has a tendency to Conservatism, sciolism, or half-knowledge, has a tendency to Liberalism.

      I have grown appreciation to respect some conservative ideas. As I grow older, I see why some look for stability. There is plenty of good debate when it comes fiscal responsibility and gradual reformism, but this doesn’t mean I would reject lgbt rights or support gutting welfare. But yes, generally stupid people seem to gravitate in the direction of conservatism or right.

      PS. As a left leaning person, I also agree with Jill’s point about liberals but that is a different topic for another time.

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    I’ve been thinking how to avoid running into other seedy characters like those spouting now other foreign propaganda like of China and Russia. I can’t imagine I will ever get away from them, but how to minimise it. In the old days I used IRC where communities were very small, or forums where we were all into some niche and we stayed away from that. But now you cannot escape this shit. One possibility I thought is just to avoid big servers like world and keep to more local instances.

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    Who else is fully expecting Reddit admins to come out in a few days banning twitter bans, and banning anyone that tries to enforce them?