It seems to me that Republicans and the Christian Nationalists they are in bed with are going to be immovably pro-Israel. How do we prevent our government from participating in this genocide as these new politicians take power?

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    It’s probably worth asking “what are the next steps for citizens of Portugal to stop the destruction of Palestine?”

    Or Honduras or Australia or South Korea or Madagascar.

    Because it’s now the same answer. You can do whatever you as a private citizen can do. Our friend’s dad travelled to Palestine and rode in on a boat loaded with construction supplies, sort of “throwing his body” in the path of the IDF to directly physically help Palestinians (he’s Jewish, btw).

    Of course this was before this full scale war. I wouldn’t recommend this action now. Send money to aid groups. Whatever you could do from the suburbs of Cartegena, that’s what you can do as an American.

    You can’t do anything about the policy from the top now. That’s a sealed envelope.

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    this genocide is The conclusion of a 50-year crusade by the Israelis, and Trump said he’s fully on board with Netanyahu finishing his attack on Palestine.

    and dumps is going to be in charge of The US military in a couple months.

    so there isn’t much you can do

    this will be one more concluded genocide in the books.

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    the best time to get educated about what a fascist american government looks like is 20-25 years ago. the second best time is… wait, too late

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    Convince a fuckton of electors to go rogue and vote Harris in January. Of course you’d have a better chance at winning the lottery than that

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    There are none. This is game over for Palestinians, Ukranians, and 99% of Americans. Mango Hitler controls all branches of the government, and every check and balance has been removed.

    Even if there was evidence of massive voter fraud on Trump’s part, it wouldn’t matter. Anyone who could do anything about it is on his team.

    The US democracy is dead.

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    Lol.

    Too late.

    Palestine will cease to exist.

    Why?

    Because Donald Trump only helps those who he can directly benefit from. Palestine cannot benefit him. Israel can.

    If you want to help Palestine, build a time machine, go back in time, and tell every liberal/independent fool who voted 3rd party or abstained from voting over the whole Palestine thing to do the smart thing instead.

    Elections have consequences, and every last American is about to find that out the real hard way.

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        I would go back further. 400,000 years back, with weapons to eradicate the human species. We are anathema to this planet’s other life. Humans are a toxic disease.

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    Good for you trump will enable Israel to defend itself better against the genocidal terrorists.

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    Sorry to break it to you, but you can’t.

    There are a few remaining checks and balances on other issues, and the Democratic Party might be able to use its minority in Congress to strategically delay certain things. But foreign policy is entirely in the President and Congress’s domain. And while Republicans in Congress sometimes have internal bickering that derails their agenda, I expect Trump and Congress to march lock-step on this one. (Their marching might even be a bit like a goose step, come to think of it.)

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      Israel’s extermination campaign is already underway with full support from the Denocrats. Harris wouldn’t have saved the Palestinians.

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        Do you really think that Kamala Harris and Donald Trump would be equally bad on this issue? Why?

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          You can’t get worse than the Biden Harris stance. And there is no way Donald Trump is going to be better. So yeah equally bad.

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            Lol, I keep joking to people that my side is dumb enough to believe the two are equal on that and every day one of y’all proves me right.

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            Why don’t you save this comment and revisit it in a year.

            This is so fucking naive and ahistoric. Read a fucking book.

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              I’ve been reading books about the region for about 20 years. Where have you been? There is no difference between the parties when it comes to that conflict. They have other differences but not about Israel Palestine. Israel is the major Middle East foothold for American empire and policy has been consistent there for 50 years. Biden/Harris are currently committing genocide there, escalating the terror there to the worst levels in the history of the conflict. It does not get worse than genocide, nothing republicans can do is worse than genocide, there are hundreds of thousands dead. Fuck Harris, Biden, and Trump for this. Don’t come to a thread about what to do about ending the genocide and defend a comment that says voting for Harris (SECOND IN COMMAND OF SAID GENOCIDE) would have stopped it.

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            You absolutely can. You can send the US military directly in to finish the job. Or private military contractors. Or stop giving what aid is currently being sent. What doctors are currently there. It can and will get worse with direct involvement.

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            Oh but you can haha, you really really can. It’s cute and naive that you thought it couldn’t get worse

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      How can a regular person block shipments of arms or dismantle AIPAC? That’s not possible.

      What does boosting voices of soon to be dead people do to stop them from dying? What does organizing or donating do?

      Trump has promised Israel everything they need, no questions asked, no limits. And they already have so much, they don’t really need a lot more. They can already destroy Palestine, they can already destroy parts of Iran and Lebanon. They just need the extra stuff and funds to do it quicker and destroy more of those countries.

      And don’t think for a second Trump and their cronies won’t block any money flow from the US to anywhere near there and divert it to Israel instead. And block organizations in the US from doing anything. Israel is already blocking aid for Palestine even from organizations like the Red Cross. What are small organizations going to do?

      Plus the time to act has come and gone. Time is up, this is going to happen within months. We can’t organize, lobby for policy change, set up aid and demonstrations. It’s done, there is a deadline and that means death for a whole lot of people.

      All we can do at this point is look with shock and horror as the far right grips the world and destroys a lot of the things we hold dear.

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      On the arms shipments, we may try lawsuits via the Leahy Law if the ethnic cleansing ramps up. The way the law is written, it actually looks at arms shipments all the way down to the granular level of individual military units. It does not say arms cannot be exported to countries engaging in war crimes, it specifically says individual military units that commit war crimes cannot receive arms. If they choose to engage in a broader campaign of organized displacement out of Gaza or starvation in places where combat has largely died down, a larger number of military units could potentially become implicated, which could maybe make a lawsuit more feasible. We’ll have to see.

      Regarding AIPAC, since Citizen’s United determined that monetary donations are a form of speech, this requires either an amendment or recapture of the Supreme Court. Otherwise Americans are allowed to lobby the government for whatever they wish, even if they are doing so at the behest of a foreign government. They have to disclose that, but so long as they do, they are simply exercising their Constitutional rights as perceived by the current Supreme Court. This isn’t going away any time soon, the current law is very clear and pretty much ironclad, rooted in the Constitution itself via the Bill of Rights.

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        if the ethnic cleansing ramps up

        I guess I don’t want to see what qualifies as “ramped up” if the current state of affairs is anything to go by. (Loud whisper: Because it’s already up.)