It seems to me that Republicans and the Christian Nationalists they are in bed with are going to be immovably pro-Israel. How do we prevent our government from participating in this genocide as these new politicians take power?

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    Israel’s extermination campaign is already underway with full support from the Denocrats. Harris wouldn’t have saved the Palestinians.

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      Don’t tell the liberals that. If you spook them now, they might start “reaching across the aisle” today instead of next week.

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      Kid, you should try reading things by actual, paid journalists, who aren’t just contributors to free online “news” sources.

      Or good books.

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        Don’t tell other people to read anything when it’s perfectly clear you don’t know what the fuck you are gibbering about.

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        You should read a few good books as well. Might I suggest:

        On Palestine by Noam Chomsky, Ilan Pappé, and Frank Barat

        The Message by Ta-Nehisi Coates

        A Dying Colonialism by Frantz Fanon

        Manufacturing Consent by Noam Chomsky and Edward S. Herman

        Actual journalists like Mehdi Hasan at Zeteo and Amy Goodman at Democracy Now! are doing excellent work on this issue.

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        I’m not a kid and I’m not wrong in saying the genocide is currently underway with full support of the Biden administration and the overall Democratic party.

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          Both claims are debatable.

          Do you think things won’t get worse under trump? Or do you think some 50,000 dead a year is the worst Israel can do?

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            The claim that Isrsel is currently performing a genocide on the Palestinians is not debatable. They have cut off the entirety of Northern Gaza and started executing everyone they see on site. They besieged the only remaining hospital there several times and imprisoned all but a couple of the staff. They are deliberately trying to starve the population and even went so far as banning the UNRWA, which is the only agency capable of keeping the Palestinians alive. And do you think that once they finish there they’ll stop? They will continue with the rest of Gaza once they are done. They’ve even started attacking and demolishing homes in the West Bank as well. And they’re trying to invade Lebanon as well like they have tried to in the past.

            Saying things will get worse under Trump is pointless. The genocide is underway, and it’s been blessed by the Biden administration as well as the Democratic party. Harris has made it clear she doesn’t plan on deviating from this course. So I stand by previous statement, Harris would not have saved them. Either one as president, the Palestinians die.

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              That’s a wildly privileged set of statements. Declaring that a bad thing id happening and it doesn’t matter if it gets worse, goddamn kid.

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                It’s privilege to say “Trust me it can get worse even as an extermination campaign is underway and other countries are being invaded”.

                The escalations that are coming in the next few months would have happened with Harris as well. Both political parties have made it abundantly clear that Israel can do whatever it wants. There are no red lines for them.

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                  It’s not even privilege, just wildly ignorant or childish to see something horrible and decide “yup, can’t get worse than that!”

                  If you literally don’t understand that trump and Harris will have very different red lines, you don’t know enough to talk about this.

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                    Buddy what part of the genocide of the Palestinians is already happening do you not understand? You want to sit there and say that Trump will genocide them even harder? The delusion of saying “Trust me, Harris will save the Palestinians” when she vocalized nothing but staunch support of Israel is what led the Democrats to lose all the Arab voters. The genocide of the Palestinians is already underway and Harris has made it clear she doesn’t intend on stopping it.