I hope the return down vote people just start collecting view count and upvotes too. Then we can at least keep that.
Screw this, mainstream websites are constantly trying to do everything they can to influence public opinion every day. First dislike button second this.
Time for Peertube
Ok, this one is really stupid. Dislikes? Ok. Views? Fuck all the way off, Google.
sounds like another job for the return youtube dislikes guy
And you (user) will accept all of it without questioning and maybe we let you watch some video between the ads.
YT Exec - /rips massive line of coke off Intern’s ass/ - “Remove View Count”
YT Engineer - “But Sir, users will hate that. It will actively make the user experience worse”
YT Exec - “That’s the goddamn point!”
This is inane but damn if it didn’t give me a good laugh :D
Intern - “You could at least give me reacharound while you’re doing that”
Why? Is everything going to shit? Like counts, view counts, dislikes … I suppose it won’t change anything for me on reVanced, but still… why?
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Their
top mindsdata scientists figured it’d be easier to manipulate users this way.
Lmfao, fuck it, why not remove titles, tags and the searchbar too if you only want them to watch the videos your algo hand picks.
Let’s just remove all video metadata including author. You just get video that is unskippable and you have to watch it (and ads) before getting a new video. Webcam required to track your eyeballs and the video will only play while you are looking at the screen.
And let’s make the video be an ad too, why waste time.
That’s their end goal: no choice whatsoever, you watch 30 minutes of ads, followed by the 30 second video the algorithm wants you to watch (which is also an ad), 30 more minutes of ads, and so on.
And, since they also own chrome, you can’t go to any other page without first spending at least six hours watching youtube.
I don’t understand why they on such a self destruct path?! I already barely use this fucking platform anymore because of how shitty it has become already, and now they want to bait me into watching some low views garbage on top of all that? WHY?!
The money must grow.
Because when you get pissed off at one shitty video and click off it to find a better one, that’s free real estate in which to double your ads.
And what are you gonna do? Go to Peertube? YouTube is too gigantic to have a real competitor no matter how much we try. It is a beast so massive and bloated at this point that we just can’t kill it without legislative interference. And Google knows damn well that they’re basically the only game in town so they aren’t afraid of significant user backlash.
There is a breaking point, eventually. YouTube’s trajectory is gonna make next quarter’s revenue great, but eventually something else will pick up user’s attention instead.
Hmm at a glance I dont see a major issue here, my concern would be that I dont click on vids with shit numbers so they are now on a more equal footing.
But it is better for people not to be so focused on numbers like removing number of likes on Instagram.
I don’t mind seeing vids with small numbers (many are genuinely cool) but I avoid 500k and above (except music) because the mainstream is mostly clickbait.
Wouldn’t the YouTube creator need to see views for ad revenue? Are they removing them for viewers or creators too?
But it is better for people not to be so focused on numbers like removing number of likes on Instagram.
Is my mental health really something I want Google managing?
They are not managing so much as they are eliminating a likely issue for users and the public.
That’s a lot of words to describe managing.
They are not managing your mental health they are managing their brand and PR.
When Google removed the dislikes from youtube videos, one of the lies they told was it was for the users(or uploader’s) mental health.
Prominent youtubers came out and specifically said that they found it a good measure for their mental health to not have the focus on dislikes. Fairly certain one of the vlogbrothers did. They may not agree with it completely but said it was a positive.
I dislike it because it was a good measure of if I should click on a video or not.
Except that the uploader can still see the downvote count. It was just removed so that corporations wouldn’t be embarrassed when they put out an unpopular trailer or product.
I don’t know what’s up with the algorithm pushing these lately. If it’s a video with 4 views from a channel with no subscribers I’m probably not interested in it. Sometimes they have a good thumbnail/title so I give them a chance but 9/10 times it’s terrible. Also often extremely right wing for whatever reason.
It’s already really difficult to engage with the content you want to see, but now they’re also taking away the only immediately noticeable metric of a successful video? Genuinely just why
To hope you find new content. YouTube had been putting random low watch count videos in my feed. I never click on them because of their low view count. The thumbsnails make them look like they’re high quality videos. Without the view count I have no idea if they have 1,000 views or millions. They’re hoping I will click on them, subscribe, and spend more time in the app.
Personally I find the highest viewed videos on YT to be the absolute shittiest ones.
They removed the star system a long time ago. They removed the down votes again a few years back.
They want their algorithm to be the only thing that decides whether you watch a video or not.
That’ll work excellent for all those people trying to find tutorial videos for ‘XYZ’ when you have no verification data to determine whether it’s even a legit tutorial.
Just trust the algorithm, bro!
People who watch tutorial videos only get on, watch the video and then leave. How are they supposed to make tons of advertising revenue from that? No, we must sacrifice that class of video from the platform, in pursuit of the almighty dollar.
I mean you joke, but they’re literally doing that to reaction video channels. MXRPlays had his entire channel deleted, despite having millions of subscribers. It was clear for years that someone at youtube had a grudge against them.
Especially since they deleted their channel. Gave strikes to all their videos, and took the videos down. Buuuuuuut, someone ELSE illegally reuploaded their content, and they can’t even report the video because their channel is deleted. The illegal re-uploads have no strikes, no issues, the content stay up, and some OTHER person makes money off of MXRPlays years old content.
the content creator isn’t following the proper system then. You don’t need YouTube to do a copyright/IP violation claim. Google is actually opening themselves up to significantly hot water if they are indeed refusing to allow a process for DMCA on creators that are deleted off the platform, as there are severe penalties for not reacting to a DMCA claim when you are a content provider.
If they actually owned the rights to the videos, that creators first step when learning that Youtube is not going to do anything about the violation, is to manually file it themselves, and honestly they should state that Youtube at that point is intentionally allowing it which would perhaps pull Youtube into it as well
just because YouTube decides that they aren’t going to do anything, doesn’t invalidate your claim to copyright. I’m surprised that the channel hasn’t seeked legal action against anyone regarding it.
My two cents on the matter is that it’s likely the channel is worried that their videos aren’t transformative enough fair use wise and that they themselves may get into legal troubles if they attempted to. A lot of commentary artists stay borderline on fair-use and not fair use, however if this was not the case, they have a pretty decent chance of winning that suit.
Oh, if you follow the channel, it’s CLEAR someone, probably just the one person, has a clear vendetta against Henry And Jeannie (MXRPlays). They used to know one person at youtube. So when they’d get their channel strike, they’d email him, and he’d review what the strike was for.
It was stuff like “Advocating child harm”.
The guy would look at the video in question, and see no evidence of that. No children in the video. No discussions of child harm. Any human without a grudge could see it was a false autobot ID. So he would remove the strike. Then the next day, the strike would be back. He’d email the guy, and the guy would look through the logs, and find it was done by a human working for youtube. He’d remove the strike again, but he’d tell them "I can’t remove it again. If he puts the strike back, it goes above me. Then the strike would be put back…and it would have to be waited out. The strike stays on your account I think they said 30 days. And if you get 3 strikes at the same time, the channel gets suspended.
So they wouldn’t upload any more videos, and then 3 days later they’d get another strike on a video that was 4 years old. Clearly not a bot, since bots generally don’t seek out old content with no activity.
And the same situation would ensue. They hung on, and kept doing this cat and mouse game for 8 years. Until the guy they knew at youtube left the company. And then they had no one to delete strikes. Any calls to anyone at youtube were ignored. And the channel wasn’t even suspended, it was terminated.
And when this other guy is reuploading their old stuff on his own personal channel, youtube says they have no way to DMCA it because the original source file, the proof that he has to say it’s his content, was deleted. Because his channel was terminated.
What type of reaction content? If it wasn’t using the minimum amount of copyrighted material needed to comment or being transformative, and was distributing the majority of a work, then at any point a DMCA will nuke em. Google might not think it’s worth the risk hosting that reaction content forever.
Basically they go on reddit, and will browse subs like “instant regret” or “maybe maybe maybe” or “yes yes no”. Basically just subs where people post videos of themselves, doing whatever. Essentially it’s just Americas Funniest Home Videos, but with their commentary using reddit as the source of the videos.
So, I’m not sure anything is actually “copyrighted”.
I doubt that would be the reason for their ban. If it is a creative work then in some countries it’s automatically copyrighted, but it’s not like most would go out of their way to stop it (unlike with like people reacting to other YouTube videos, films, anime, etc).
LOL. You clearly have never heard of G.A.S. (gear acquisition syndrome). You get on YouTube to learn how to play guitar and next thing you know you’ve bought three guitars, a closet full of pedals, amps, amp modelers, etc., and you still don’t know how to play.
That does not benefit specifically Alphabet though…
Of course it does. You go in for a lesson and fall down the gear rabbit hole. Next thing you know you are watching endless hours of gear reviews and demos. A lesson is a single video where gear videos is an entire genre.
Oh, thanks for the correction!:-)
They want to decide what you like and don’t like. You WILL watch what THEY show you.
I’m curious how this will affect things like sub-a-thons where people stream for charity and so on.
Too hard to manipulate the algorithm with ai spam, disguised ads and propaganda if users can see all the videos at the top of their recommended feed have 20 views.
You must only view what the Corporation approves.
Sir, please put this empty verification can into your anus. Video coming up right after!
Last time someone did that it triggered a conflict between Serbia and Albania!
The data will have to be there for sorting reasons and such, so this is just an extra nod to using an app like Grayjay, which will almost assuredly still pull the data and display it for you to see.
some internal metric and testibg said this increases engagement by 2.1% so now we are stuck with it.
Fucking YouTube is at it again, and you know what? I think Susan make a better YouTube CEO than the current retarded CEO, Luckily Revanced is a thing hopefully they patch it if it come true
Odyssey is all fascists and crypto bros
Rumble isn’t any better. It’s where my dad gets his COVID conspiracy material after folks got kicked off other platforms.
Isn’t rumble the same? Lul what the fuck is going on with the world.
It’s sad that Odysse has turned to that because it was where I was thinking about uploading content.
Do it anyway, so the shit will be diluted in time.
Its got a lot of those types for sure, but it has the most normal content of any alt video platform.
You can find electroboom in Big Clive on there.
Outside of that it’s pretty much a write off
That’s what happens to all alternatives at the start, only really the content that isn’t suitable for the main platform migrates there. It requires a mass exodus because of something major, like what happened with reddit 3rd party apps or twitter/X & the block change , to get enough regular users there.
Lemmy literally exists because Dessalines, a “long time Marxist-leninist” decided that “Fuck the while supremacist Reddit admins” and made an alternative to host r/communism because reddit is run by an “anti-tankie scum”.
YouTube/Google and hiding data from the end-user, name a better duo.
