could she blow it badly by choosing the wrong running mate?
Nope, she’ll lose the black vote for putting them into the chattel slavery prison system. She’ll lose the youth vote for supporting the Palestinian genocide. She’ll get a lot of heckin’ blue no matter who Redditors just like Hilary!
Yeah, I’m pretty sure the youth and the black voters are excited to vote for a fascist felon like Trump
I want her to win, but I’d bet good money against her winning.
So do it. Either you get a cash payout, or you get a functional democratic government for the next 4-8 years.
You know a reputable bookie?
Know of anywhere that will let you bet on political races?
Unfortunately, they appear to be shutting down soon. Looks like it is illegal to gamble on politics in the US, at least according to one multi national betting site I looked at last night.
Good to know, thanks for the heads-up.
I think she has a good a chance as anyone and I doubt any running mate pick would blow it unless it was like that one guy that was a dem and went independent because hes basically a republican.
You mean the certified piece of shit: Senator Joe Manchin.
Sounds right.
I wouldn’t agree with the choice but I could see the logic in picking the rightest, most obstructionist Dem they could find as the running mate as sort of a bulwark against “radical leftist!” attacks.
Lemmy’s opinions are a poor substitute for polls. Give them a little time to ascertain whether democracy is likely to fall.
Wait for the debate on September 10th. Up to then, it’s anybody’s game. I’m willing to bet that debate is the deciding factor in who wins the election.
I am hoping for Harris to channel her inner persecutor and bull rush Trump off stage.
That I would just truly savor. Her calling out each and every lie that oozes out what he calls a mouth.
Hope she says nothing about guns. Everytime I hear a dem bring it up I can hear muricans running to vote gop.
Yep there are a lot of Republican single issue voters, guns rights and abortion bans are two of the biggest of those issues.
But damned if the Democrats don’t do it to themselves nearly every time, I’m surprised Biden didn’t.
They should just all campaign on “read my lips: no new gun reforms” just to get the votes
Like they want to win. Seriously all they need to say they will be focusing on abortion rights and drop gun restrictions for the time being and bam win.
As someone who’s extremely left leaning, it’s so goddamn infuriating, because there are so many pro-gun Dem leaning voters that wind up voting ® down the ticket, almost solely because the Democratic candidate went on an idiotic speech about AK-15s and their 30 caliber per second clipazines. It’s not like the anti-gun Dems they’re pandering to are going to vote Republican because the Democratic candidate said nothing about guns during their campaign.
It’s literally one single issue that the Dems could just not say a word about. Literally, no work involved. No campaigning, canvassing, or fundraising. Just don’t bring it up, and it would massively improve their odds in some of the most critical swing states. But no, they just have to virtue signal to the areas that are basically ultramarine blue, and it fucks them over every goddamn time.
Getting shot gave Trump the win. Project 2025 will destroy the US.
Going for another Californian, if possible, would be a bad call.
if a president and vice president on the same winning ticket hailed from the same state, and it was a close election–things would get messy. really messy. like, even worse than they are now.
an elector’s votes (at that stage of the process, there are two: one for president, one for vice president) in the electoral college cannot both be for a candidate from their own (the elector’s) home state.
What does “from” mean? Could Obama have been voted in with someone from Hawaii or Illinois(for simplicity’s sake, the other person is a lifelong resident in their respective state)?
She could blow it badly just by being in the race.
She is in so a vote for her is one less vote for a rapist.
Tara Reid has entered the chat.
It’s Tara Reade first off. Secondly she defected to Russia in the company of a known Russian intelligence asset whom she termed a “friend.” So excuse everyone who thinks her story might be suspect.
MeToo only applied to women assault by republicans, it died all of a sudden when Democrats were found doing the same thing.
Believing accusers should always be the first step. But when independent organizations investigate and find that accuser’s story is contradicted by known facts and not corroborated by other witnesses or any evidence whatsoever, then no, we shouldn’t still believe them.
It really depends on how misogynistic and racist American voters are.
I’m afraid I have some bad news…
Checks notes… yep, it’s terminal.
We voted for Obama twice, and Hillary won the popular vote.
Hillary won the popular vote
Moot point because winning the popular vote is just as meaningless today as it was then
It is not a moot point, since it was offered as evidence of who this electorate are. No one said Hilary became president.
This kind of thinking is exactly the reason why Trump got elected in the first place.
We don’t like because she’s a piece of shit cop, not because of her gender or her race
Unpacking Kamala Harris’s Record on Trans and Sex Work Issues - From denying affirming healthcare to a trans inmate to barring forums sex workers used to protect themselves, the former “top cop” has a concerning record of endangering our community’s most marginalized members.
https://www.them.us/story/kamala-harriss-record-on-trans-and-sex-work-issues
And…
Kamala Harris is a complicated choice for some LGBTQ+ people
https://19thnews.org/2020/08/kamala-harris-complicated-lgbtq-choice/
And…
Kamala Harris Takes ‘Responsibility’ for Opposing Trans Surgeries
She kept prisoners past their parole or release dates so the prisons wouldnt lose the labor
https://prospect.org/justice/how-kamala-harris-fought-to-keep-nonviolent-prisoners-locked-up/
Enjoy your downvotes comrade
Don’t care about downvotes, like liberals don’t care about a democrats past. And they wonder how they suddenly turn to shit.
Numerous accounts have discredited the official US bullshit about Tiananmen Square and the fake Uyghur Genocide.
Lmao you actually said this
And it’s not a lie.
Firstly, lmao again.
Secondly, I actually don’t care what you believe. I just wanted to point out the basis for your comments on here. Now we know :)
What you believe is the lie
Ah, that’s a liberal problem so conservatives must care so much about their candidate’s past huh? So what you’re suggesting is they vote for Trump because he is a racist, rapist and fraud?
I bet you still shit in diapers since people are incapable of changing lmao
I don’t suggest anyone vote for Trump. Republican voters are victims of propaganda as much as Democrats are. People like Biden and Harris dont change, they lie to stay in power. They know being openly racist and bigoted would cause them to lose favor ability so they do it covertly with legislation
So is the conclusion from that that LGBTQ people would rather vote for Trump (directly, or indirectly by voting for some small candidate or not voting)? I don’t get why this would be a reason for them to not support the democrats
It’s like if you have a choice of getting tickled for an hour or getting shot in the chest, and you focus on how much you dislike being tickled.
bro, getting tickled for an hour is very uncomfortable. Maybe If I get shot in the chest, my options next time will be I live a long life without a shot to the chest?
I hope you get the help you need
Joe Biden was one of that main sponsors on making harsher drug sentences in the 1980’s and yet he changed with the times and science, and so can she.
Leopards don’t change their spots
Weird, because Biden publicly and through action changed his views on those very same prison sentences.
But sure, let’s shine a flashlight and the least dangerous candidate and ignore the party actively trying to delete queerness
Biden isn’t the least dangerous. An enemy hiding among us is more dangerous than one in the open.
You’re hilarious, thanks!
That may work in Harris’s favor. She is a woman and she isnt white…
Now I know theres minorities and women who do vote red but if you look at the population based on percentages white men are only 31% of the population, White women 30%, 12% black, 18% Hispanic. If she pulls white women, and the POC (not to mention the LGBT+ vote) she could absolutely walk it in. She just needs to convince those people to get up off their asses and vote in record numbers.
What about her policies though? Being more than one step away from the grave is great, but would she actually make sensible decisions?
From the outside… I hope that the US is not as bad as it looks.
From the outside - I read a comment about a " possible second black president" and it took me a minute to figure out they were talking about Harris
If I do more than a few hours gardening in summer I’m darker-skinned than her 😂
Why are they so obsessed with someone’s…hue?!?
If I do more than a few hours gardening in summer I’m darker-skinned than her 😂
This is your privilege talking. Because if someone targets you for your skin color, all you need to do is stay in the shade for a couple of weeks. “Lol!”
But more to the point, you’re right. Unfortunately, American politicians have a history of not liking non-whites in positions of power. Under Obama, the GOP shut down the government twice, and the famous “you lie!” line was uttered to him by a Republican during an official act - something that has never happened before. All because he was black.
I will never forget that clip during the Obama vs. McCain race where a woman says Obama can’t be trusted because “he’s an arab”
And McCain corrected her. I don’t want to sugar coat that era, but it would be nice if Republicans today had that basic connection to simple reality and personal-level decency. One, you can negotiate with that. And two, I was a lot less worried about John McCain or Mitt Romney destroying the political infrastructure that would let their bad ideas be replaced by something better.
It’s about African ethnicity more than albedo per se. GOP also-ran Vivek Ramaswamy is about the same hue as Obama but it’s less of an issue for him. Quite a bit of US racism lingers from the Jim Crow era and even the Civil War. Most African-Americans are literally descended from antebellum slavery and are still seen by some as something like escapees who need to be rounded up and put back on the farm. Obama himself didn’t have that in his ancestry (his father came to the US from Kenya, which didn’t “count”) and that helped him, I think, though of course he was still subject to racism. Basically there is a chunk of the US that misses the plantation system and wants it back.
I’ve lived in the U.S. for more than 20 years. I’m “Mexican from South America” like many Trumpists would call me.
It’s not as bad as it looks.
I’m so tired of hearing this about America, we have one of the most diverse countries in the world. I understand the narrative that the media shows the world, the most horrendous of Americans (which are the smallest groups) get a totally disproportionate amount of media time because of their awful actions. A majority of the population tries to be decent human beings, of course bias exists subconsciously and people aren’t aware of it.
I am in the SE region of the US, which everyone loves generalizing as the most ignorant and racist area. I have seen true racist when I was delivering pizzas and my coworkers were black, it was horrendous. I can assure you the racists are a minority and a shrinking one at that. Not only that but it is exceedingly rare that they are under 50 years. Not only both of those things but both millennials and gen Z call out that shit immediately.
It really starts to wear on you when you actively try to fight these things and everyone still only sees your country as full of racists. Yes they exist but it is a shrinking minority.
Betting odds are 1:1.5 for Trump and 1:3 for Harris while Trump is slightly ahead in the polls. I’d still think it’s a toss up since the Democratic election machine is going to kick into high gear and they have a pretty good youth angle by saying Trump is a relic of the past.
The Trump campaign has been saying Biden is too old forever, and Trump is barely younger. If anyone on their base actually bought that rhetoric then it’s probably going to fly back in their faces now. I have (maybe too much) hope that this can be turned around quickly.
I doubt it, the only complaint I ever heard about Biden was he is old. She is way younger. I wouldn’t be surprised if she can pull a lot of Republicans since she is an ex DA and known for being tough on crime.
I guess she could choose Don Jr as her running mate and blow it that way but I see that as impossible.
She does not have a good enough history to drum up the support necessary. Popular image matters, money matters, big media matters most. She doesn’t have it.
Trump is now the oldest presidential nominee in history. She’s about 20 years younger then him. She’s unburdened by all of Biden’s failures, and can claim all his successes. Also not being catholic she doesn’t have to be weird about abortion and can be pro choice, which post-Roe is a HUGE deal for about 50% of the population. Trumpworld’s best hit against her is her laugh, which is absolutely not doing numbers because… c’mon.
So yeah she’s got a decent chance, but obviously anything can happen.
Not sure if by that 50% part you mean that women all care about abortion rights. They definitely don’t. Conservative women love hurting other women whom they perceive to be sluts. It assuages their pain about dedicating their lives to some bubba of a husband who has never made them cum.
The only point I’d argue is that whenever I see pictures of people protesting outside abortion clinics there are plenty of women there too…
The abortion topic might not necessarily pull the womens vote as hard as you might think.
See you’d think that but in practice women almost never imagine the men want restrictions that are actually as strict as the rhetoric suggests.
No exception bans are so beyond the pale that even blood red Nebraska will go 60 to 40 against them. Hitting the abortion button is one of the Dems’ best strategies right now, if the Republicans defend it too much they alienate the center, and if they don’t defend it enough they sap the right’s energy for them, and they themselves have polarized the issue enough that there’s not nearly as much of a goldilocks zone for keeping enough voters grumbling but not turned off to skate by as there may have been in the past.
Also applies to Project 2025 more generally but the abortion issue is the locus around which that broader case can be built from since it’s the “right now” manifestation of just how crazy it will all be.
There are of course women on both sides, but generally speaking the prospect of being forced to cast a child they do not want is off-putting for most women.
Sure, but how many of those people are ignoring that fact and instead applying an arbitrary moral standard onto other women?
Most of those women think the only moral abortion is their abortion. Most of those men abortions are a means to an end of getting women back into the kitchen. This has way more to do with women’s suffrage than it ever did about babies. Just look at how they treat babies/mothers after they are born.
You’re conflating volume with popular support. The Nationalist Christians and related religious fundamentalists are extremely loud, obnoxious, and annoying, and that group does include women. It’s just important to also acknowledge that religious fundies, despite how noisy they are, are not a majority of the populace at this point.
And moreover, part of the reason they’re being so loud, obnoxious, and annoying, and the core reason of why they’re trying to solidify their hold on power, is that they can see demographic tea leaves - religiosity is plummeting across the country for a lot of very good reasons. But instead of adjusting their stances to be more inclusive, they’ve taken the Fox News route and are going for outrage. As long as we can make it through this and the next election relatively intact, I think and hope that this particularly cancerous tribe of fundies are destined for the dustbin of history.
I think everyone misinterpreted what I said, which I said very poorly. Its my bad.
Women who care about abortion access/rights as single issue voters almost certainly already werent voting Republican already. So if the Dems do run on a pro-choice platform it might not effect the numbers as much as people think.
Essentially it might motivate more people to vote, because its a contentious issue and it will be weighted to votes for the Dems, but I dont think its a magic bullet for her campaign.
Yes and yes.
