We’ve been anticipating it for years,1 and it’s finally happening. Google is finally killing uBlock Origin – with a note on their web store stating that the ...

We’ve been anticipating it for years,1 and it’s finally happening. Google is finally killing uBlock Origin – with a note on their web store stating that the …

  • GeneralInterest@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    I might try uBlock Origin Lite, then if it doesn’t work very well then maybe I’ll just use Firefox

    I guess Google are betting that only a small segment of power users will switch to Firefox, while the mass of ordinary people won’t be bothered enough to switch.

    • Khrux@ttrpg.networkEnglish
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      2 months ago

      This is definitely a selfish opinion but people who block adverts or torrent being a small percentage of users can be a good thing.

      If they lose even 5% of their userbase to Firefox over this decision, they’ll find a way to make grand modifications to Google search and YouTube in a manner that stops you blocking ads from alternative browsers, and while I’m happy swapping to an alternative search engine, it’ll definitely becometedious to sidestep Google’s gaze.

      But if it’s 0.1% of people who swap due to this, and Google already don’t care about the small percentage they lose to Firefox then I would rather sit under the radar and not be cracked down on.

        • Num10ck@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          probably different for everyone, for me i use Adblocker Ultimate Ublock Origin Enhancer for Youtube DeArrow Stylebot Buster Context play/pause

          • Mr_Blott@feddit.ukEnglish
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            2 months ago

            Christ on a bike, you’d think they’d give it a more succinct name

            (Either leave a blank line between lines, or put two spaces at the end of each word)

            • riot@lemmy.worldEnglish
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              2 months ago

              Looking at the source of the comment, OP only hit enter once per extension name they entered, and that’s why they’re showing up as if they’re one long run-on sentence. @Num10ck@lemmy.world probably didn’t know that you have to double enter for things to show up on separate lines.

              I went ahead and found links for all of them, for anyone curious to check em out. I don’t personally know any of them, besides uBlock and Stylebot:

              • Num10ck@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                2 months ago

                thanks Riot, it looked fine in Voyager when i was creating it. hitting enter once for carriage return has been correct for a century, whats with the double enter system?

                • riot@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                  2 months ago

                  As far as I know, that’s just always how it’s been for markdown, which is what Lemmy uses. So in order to be sure that your comment looks the way you want it to, it’s a good idea to use the Preview function, which Voyager thankfully also has under the 3 dots menu in the lower right.

                  @Mr_Blott@feddit.uk also mentioned that you can put two spaces at the end of each word, and then it’ll count the one enter as a proper line break.
                  Like this. You can also do as I did, and just put a dash in front of everything, and then it’ll turn into an unordered list.

        • karpintero@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Vimium. Allows you to use your keyboard to navigate instead of needing to always reach for the mouse.

        • Anivia@feddit.orgEnglish
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          2 months ago

          “I don’t care about cookies” although it does occasionally break some websites

        • ilinamorato@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          For me, it was multi-account containers. All Meta properties open in their own independent, sandboxed tabs now. Xwitter opens in a different independent, sandboxed tab. It makes their tracking cookies useless, plus it also lets you be logged into the same service with multiple accounts simultaneously.

    • AlternateRoute@lemmy.caEnglish
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      2 months ago

      No, HVEC / H.265 codec support so no modern 4K security camera or plex/jellyfin etc high quality video support.

      • bdonvr@thelemmy.clubEnglish
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        2 months ago

        plex/jellyfin etc high quality video support

        H265 isn’t the only option there. AV1 is great and fully supported by Jellyfin (and I imagine Plex?)

        • AlternateRoute@lemmy.caEnglish
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          2 months ago

          H.265 is the defecto standard on Security cameras, and I am not going to migrate content to AV1 that is already in H.265.

          • bdonvr@thelemmy.clubEnglish
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            2 months ago

            Jellyfin can handle the transcoding to AV1 where needed. Albeit that’s a bit less ideal than direct play as you need the hardware to transcode.

            • AlternateRoute@lemmy.caEnglish
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              2 months ago

              Not spending hundreds to upgrade my server to support 4K to 4K transcoding. Even accelerated on a VERY recent CPU or GPU Encoding in AV1 is costly while at the same time decoding H.265.

              Again Essentially every major browser supports HVEC now, other than Firefox.

              • bdonvr@thelemmy.clubEnglish
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                2 months ago

                If it’s a personal machine in which you have a choice on browser why not just use one of the native Jellyfin apps?

                major browser supports HVEC now, other than Firefox.

                Every other major browser is an overcommercialized pile of crap (or built atop the same) that can afford to pay for the licenses to use HEVC or has no qualms shipping proprietary code with their software that they don’t control.

                Also apparently on Windows you can enable experimental HEVC hardware decoding support. You’ll need to install “HEVC Video Extensions” (from Microsoft themselves) ($0.99) in the Windows App Store and toggle “media.wmf.hevc.enabled” in about:config.

            • AlternateRoute@lemmy.caEnglish
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              2 months ago

              Not when you are using an NVR with scrubbing and everything in the web UI. https://frigate.video/

              All in all it would be an inconvenient workaround for something that already works seamlessly across Safari, Edge, Chrome etc.

                • shinratdr@lemmy.caEnglish
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                  2 months ago

                  How is giving a sober and straightforward explanation of why he can’t use Firefox “bitching”? The simple fact is “switch to Firefox” isn’t a solution for everyone in every case. Burying your head in the sand about that benefits nobody.

      • cum@lemmy.cafeEnglish
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        2 months ago

        https://caniuse.com/hevc

        looks like the bigger issue is hvec itself. Also the support is extremely spotty with all the other browsers as well, with it still only having limited support in Chrome as well depending on your hardware.

        Or just use av1 instead. I’ve literally never run into this as an issue before lol.

      • wax@feddit.nuEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Probably no ads on your self-hosted frigate/jellyfin pages though, so you can just keep using chrome for that ¯⁠\⁠_⁠(⁠ツ⁠)⁠_⁠/⁠¯

      • vividspecter@lemm.eeEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Jellyfin

        Use the desktop client or jellyfin-mpv-shim and you’ll get HEVC support and superior image quality.

      • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.worldEnglish
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        2 months ago

        According to caniuse.com, it works now in the Nightly builds and can be enabled in other builds via the media.wmf.hevc.enabled pref in about:config.

        I use Firefox Dev Edition and I think it’s enabled there. But either way, you can enable it on stable.

        • AlternateRoute@lemmy.caEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Night, windows only, and needs to be enabled with about: config… ie it almost has some support maybe. Also doesn’t work via webrtc so it doesn’t actually help me with the viewing the security cam feeds.

            • AlternateRoute@lemmy.caEnglish
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              2 months ago

              Core web app compatibility vs … “enhanced” ad blocking. MS teams and some other business tools also don’t support Firefox but work fine in Chrome and Safari.

              It is something the Firefox team needs to work on again. I used Firefox from when it was released until Chrome came out and mopped the floor with it. At the time Firefox became the bloated beast and went through a reset.

              Unfortunately trying to have a firm stance on not implementing HVEC when they no longer had the largest market share was a bad move and they seem to be slowly back tracking on that.

              • TheGrandNagus@lemmy.worldEnglish
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                2 months ago

                MS Teams not working as well in Firefox is a “we want you using Edge or Chrome” Microsoft issue, not a Firefox issue.

                You wouldn’t believe the amount of enterprise-sector MS websites that have went from works fine on Firefox to completely broken on anything but Chrome very quickly after Edge became Chrome with a lick of paint.

  • dadarobot@lemmy.sdf.orgEnglish
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    2 months ago

    Honest question here, since chromium (vs chrome) is open source, can someone not fork an older version, or remove the new code blocking ublock?

    I mean i assume it cant be done, but i dont know why

    • 4z01235@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      It can be done, but then whoever forks that will need to stay on top of keeping that fork up to date with other changes in the original chromium, and that gets harder and harder to do as time goes on and more changes are made to the same or related parts of the codebase.

        • NotMyOldRedditName@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          Google: We changed a color

          Fork Developer: they changed a color and it caused 50,000 breaking changes that a diff tool can’t handle automatically wtf.

          Google: sorry wrong color here’s a new one

          Fork developer: another 100,000 breaking changes that a diff can’t handle?!?!

      • cum@lemmy.cafeEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Also all the ad blocking extensions would have to continue maintaining forks of their own projects for increasingly obscure manifest V2 Chromium browsers.

  • AlternateRoute@lemmy.caEnglish
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    2 months ago

    It kills the full version of uBlock but there is a lite version that has fewer functions as well.

    • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.worldEnglish
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      2 months ago

      I read that they temporarily (and apparently accidentally) removed the uBlock Origin Lite extension but they’re not getting rid of Manifest v2 that allows normal uBlock Origin to work.

      The developer released the lite version on Firefox because it might be better for Android Firefox users. I guess there was some confusion.

        • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.worldEnglish
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          2 months ago

          They said they have no plans to deprecate v2 and if they ever do, will provide 12 months notice before doing so. So, I think there will be time to prepare for that switch.

  • ShittyBeatlesFCPres@lemmy.worldEnglish
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    2 months ago

    You can always keep Chromium installed for the odd site that doesn’t work in Firefox (my daily driver). I do web development and test in every browser and I almost never encounter sites that don’t work in FF. The only one I can recall is something in the Azure Portal, probably because Microsoft wants you using Edge.

    Typically, Safari is the laggard and any developer worth their salt would make sure their site works on iPad and iPhone. When a new web standard is released, usually Chromium supports it first but even then, not always. And web developers usually don’t use features that aren’t implemented across the board yet. I know I go to caniuse.com before I use something fresh out the oven.

  • reksas@sopuli.xyzEnglish
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    2 months ago

    After i uninstalled chrome some time ago, i noticed it had been slowing down my entire system even when its not on. There is nothing of worth in using it or any other browser derived from it.

    • sue_me_please@awful.systemsEnglish
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      2 months ago

      This isn’t sufficient. I’ve been running DNS adblocking for a decade, advertisers have wised up to it and can easily sidestep it.

    • kboy101222@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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      2 months ago

      To my knowledge, DNS blockers not only miss a ton of ads, they also trigger several false positives.

      A better solution is to switch to something not chromium like Firefox or whatever alternative the next Linux person to read this comment recommends

      • LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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        2 months ago

        Ublocks lists are available as hostlists as well. Yea Firefox for the PC , vanadium (chromium) for the phone. No problem running all of it as well , if you have a little bit of power to spare. Haven’t had any issues on adguard DNS plus proton adblock

          • LoveSausage@discuss.tchncs.deEnglish
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            2 months ago

            Yea problem is however that using Firefox on Android is using Firefox and chromium WebView. Så twice the problems. Sticking to vanadium. No issues at all as far as I noticed regarding adblocking. Next phone will hopefully be a Linux one. If there ever is such a thing that works and matches mid-top level androids. Then it will be a Firefox based one (not the standard one as it is riddle with Google stuff)

            • kboy101222@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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              2 months ago

              I’ve been using Firefox on Android since it came out. I’ve had 0 issues.

              And as far as I’m aware, the newest version of Android Firefox (previously called “preview” doesn’t use an ounce of chrome, even for temporary browser pages

  • funkforager@sh.itjust.worksEnglish
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    2 months ago

    You can make a windows registry change to have Chrome let you keep using uBlock Origin, with the V2 manifest. It will buy you six more months, basically the enterprise support period.

    There was a handy shortcut created by the Security Now podcast you can use as a one-click file to update the policy. The show notes also give a more detailed breakdown of what’s going on.

    The relevant section in the notes is page 10. The link to the file is page 12. https://www.grc.com/sn/sn-995-notes.pdf