• Hikermick@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Wanting Lasik surgery doesn’t mean she’s blind, she just doesn’t want to wear glasses anymore. It’s a vanity thing.

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      I don’t think the mom’s laughing if she’s blind. Yes, it’s a pain in the ass, sometimes, to have glasses. But no, I’m not paying for lasik for my kid who needs glasses/contacts.

      Downvotin’ @Hikermick@lemmy.world doesn’t make them wrong.

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      Not necessarily a vanity thing, it’s also a pain in the ass and a life long expense. Do you know how many times I’ve woken up and found my glasses fell some where and I can’t find them? Or the screws loosened and a lense fell out while I’m out doing something? And a pair of glasses can run you anywhere from $200-$800+ every few years, let alone the optometrist appointments to get your prescription updated.

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        If you need your glasses prescription updated then the Lasik correction you had also no longer works, you still need the optometrist appointments to check eye health. A new pair of glasses can be had for a lot less than $200 as well.

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        I haven’t paid ridiculous optometrist prices for glasses in this millenium and I don’t understand why people still do.

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    Am I the only one who lives with their parent and helps paying bills? I am asking, because some people seem to be surprised that my father forces me to pay for the living in his house, but the truth is I don’t mind that, and I’d rather not be a freeloader.

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      It’s situational, but you’re not the only one.

      I lived with my dad for many years because he slowly lost the ability to take care of himself. My brother and I were there to handle whatever he needed and since I was working full time, I’d cover bills when it was required, either because he forgot or because he was struggling.

      We eventually made the decision to have him moved to a care facility where he could get the care he needed, and far better care than we could hope to provide. He’s passed on now, but it happens. That was a crazy time in my life. Now I live independently.

      For the record, I’m over 40 now, and I’m the youngest of his children. He died a few years back at this point.

    • Showroom7561@lemmy.ca
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      I mean, if you’re an adult with an income and living with anyone else (parents, roommate, etc.), you really should be helping with the upkeep of the place and bills. As well as paying for your own food, phone bill, etc.

      “Forcing you to pay” sounds harsh without context. You’d have to pay rent to live anywhere else, right? Perhaps, “expected to pay” seems more logical… assuming you’re an adult with an income.

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      Setting an appropriate amount of contribution is between you and your dad. There is no wrong way except if a child truly needs a roof to sleep under and they aren’t a complete fuck up.

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      I think It is fair that the members of a family, that are a community living together or not, all share in the burdens of life so it is easier for everyone. But if the parents are like forcing you to pay rent, then I would just live somewhere else.

      Put in another way. It is fine if you have an adult children to say “hey, help out anyway you can so it is easier to everyone” and if they cannot figure out how to do that or they are like stuck and not progressing in life then instead of an ultimatum of “pay rent” better is a “I think you need the experience of living on your own”. Again I am all for money staying in the family and much prefer that or even better they saving money to buy a place than paying rent to some shitty landlord. But anyway.

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      If your parents want you to pay rent, while at the same time complaining that you still live with them(which is often the situation), they can charitably be called dumbfucks.

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        I understand the need to privacy as people get older, but if my kids want to stay with me for a long period of their life, I will be pleased to have them with me as long as they like.

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        I really subscribe to the idea of the kid helping on bills + a little extra and the parent saving as much as they financially can of that into an account and giving it to their kid as a moving away gift.

        But yes, I think you are more talking about having the kid pay market price to live at home which is fucked.

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    24 y/o with a teaching job.

    No real income is what she has. Probably on top of a shitton student debt.

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      “no real bills” I’d believe…if the parent said she lived at home (no rent and food provided), was on parents’ insurance (health, auto, etc.), had no studentsl debt, and was walking distance to work.

      But given that her parent didn’t, I’d guess that isn’t the case. Turns out rent, food, transportation, and like you said, student debt, are all…what’s the word…real bills?

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        To a lot of people “serious bills” means credit card debt for shit they didn’t need.

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      By the description it sounds like she lives at home? Teachers start most places at $40k+ a year. If she doesn’t have any bills and she’s 24 and no longer wants to wear glasses or contacts, yeah. That’s on her.

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        Spoken like someone who doesn’t have student debt. Or understand it at all.

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        Where are teachers starting at $40,000? That was 10 year salary in most of the US not even 5 years ago. My brother, his wife, and one of my sisters all started at ≈$24,000 a year, and they still had to supply their classrooms with basic supplies. They all got into teaching at completely different points over the last 19 years. One in '05, one in '12, and the last in '16 and they all started at ≈$24,000 a year. This was in Indiana, Georgia, and Virginia.

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          Straight from the National Education Association website.. This is a .org pro teacher and pro education website that is actively trying to increase teacher pay.

          The National average for NEW teachers is $44,530. 28 percent of districts that staff a total of 300,000 teachers start at below $40,000. However, 23 percent of districts start at over $50,000, and those districts staff a total of 1,300,000 teachers. So over four times more teachers start over $50k, compared to the under $40k crowd.

          Furthermore, Montana and Missouri have the lowest average starting teacher salaries and they are still at $34,500 and $36,800. So even if you’re in the dead last worst off state in the country, you’re still average new teacher salary is about $35,000.

          So your numbers you have are a far, far, cry from reality for all but the lowest paid teachers in the lowest paid areas and are like a decade back from today’s rates.

          As a completely superficial note, my friend just got her first full time teaching job for grade school and is in the 2nd lowest paying state for new teachers in the country; Missouri. Her starting salary is $51,000.

          So if you want to have any argument or discussion about my original statement for teacher salaries being incorrect, do as I have and back it up with facts and sources.

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    1. Teaching is a real job, probably one of the hardest
    2. Your daughter is fucking blind, and you’re laughing at her? You penis
    • jj4211@lemmy.world
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      Lasik doesn’t fix blindness. If Lasik can help, most people live with corrective lenses, because they are much much cheaper even over the long haul than Lasik.

      I certainly disagree with going to social media over the exchange, but Lasik is far from a “need” for anyone and isn’t something to consider equivalent to “curing blindness”

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        Lasik isn’t some life saving critical operation that would be provided for if she lived in a leftist European state, you make do with contacts or glasses until you can afford it. The parent is a dumbass too for running to twitter with this but it is an elective.

  • pyre@lemmy.world
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    “no real kids”

    “no real bills”

    🚩🚩🚩🚩🚩

    the fact that he added “real” to both means she has them but he somehow doesn’t consider them real, whatever the fuck that means. but this sounds like a total piece of shit and i feel sorry for the 24 year old.

    nothing like ruining the economy and the future for the next generation and then refusing to help.

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      I think everyone is misunderstanding the “kids” part.

      The daughter is a teacher, meaning she has “kids” (i.e. in her classroom), but not “real kids”, as in, kids of her own. A strange way of saying it, but I’m sure that’s what she meant.

      The no real bills part… that could mean anything. If she’s living with her folks and doesn’t have to pay rent, utilities, etc., then I can understand how a request like that could be taken poorly by the mother.

      Still, posting it on social media is Karen-like behaviour.

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      I’m guessing the kids comment was about pets. ‘No real bills’ I’m guessing she still lives at home and pays some token amount towards rent/utilities.

      We can speculate all we like, but I could see this going either way, and I’d be frustrated if my 24 year old couldn’t support themselves too.

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        My cousin is a coparent in a polycule of 3, but she is not the biological parent of their children, she is the default parent though, as she is a SAHM and the other parents work. They’ve been together for 23 years.

        Half my family acts like she doesn’t have any children, and that she’s some sad single live in nanny. They will ask her how her “room mates and their kids” are going, even if the “room mate” is standing next to her with his hand on her arse and has just finished telling a story about how in love they are.

        My dad is also thinks I have “no real bills” because I don’t have a mortgage. He says rent isn’t a real bill because it’s not like the bank will take my house if I don’t pay. History opinion on evictions is “that not the same, because you can get a new place to rent that night, you can’t buy a new house in a day”

        My rent is 6x more than his mortgage and I don’t know anyone who could get approved for a rental the same day they get evicted for not paying rent, but sure dad, I’m rolling in expendable income over here.

        Some families are weird about denying how their relatives live.

        But it could also be that she calls her cat “her baby” and lives at home with only personal bills.

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        I mean she’s a teacher. A very hard job with lots of unpaid work that often offers downright sad wages.

        Being unable to support oneself despite a full-time job is a more and more common thing in our world.

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        i feel like if he’s frustrated about his kid and she only has pets he’d just say no kids. but people are weird with animals so who knows.

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      “Can you describe the nature of the unrealness of these bills, as its own thing and not as the absence of something else?”

      Just thought the dissection of that particular “weasel word” might help someone out there at some point.

      “Brandy made in Germany isn’t “real” cognac. The nature of the unrealness is that it was made in Germany and not the cognac region of France.”

      You may disagree but my point here is, right or wrong, you can always describe the nature of the unrealness, unless its being used as a cheap, underhanded rhetorical device.

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    The fuck does no real bills mean? Does eating, rent and gas/insurance not count as real bill?

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    I wonder if this lady will ever realize the politicians she votes for (come on, we know which party) are why her daughter with one of the most importsnt jobs in the entire world can’t afford to see. Probably not.

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    Get ready for shitty Gen-X. There are a fair few of us that are utter cunts, just like their Boomer parents, here’s a fine example of that.

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      Fuck of with that stupid generationism. This is narcissism, a mental illness which exists in people of all ages.

      Generationism is something that is made up to make people forget about the actual structural problems in society.

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      Can confirm from the tail end of Gen X. There were some total cunts that called themselves neo-conservatives that I went to a Liberal Arts College, called Transylvania University with. One would have thought they would have taken even a cursory look at that school and declared it part of “The Leftist Elite,” but they still ended up there somehow.

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        No no no, you don’t understand! Liberal Arts colleges are infested with leftist agents and propaganda, and one could never gain anything of value studying there!

        Unless, of course, you’re a conservative man who studied economics; then, your education makes you knowledgable and impressive. Of course, of course…

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          Ok, but Transylvania University? Like even if you have any clue as to why a liberal arts university in Lexington, KY is called that, you have to know that some pretty weird people are going to be attracted to the name alone. Rocky Horror Picture Show fans, Vampire fans of a holy shit spectrum from Bram Stoker all the way to Anne Rice, while I was there. Not to mention artistic freaks of every single sort. I really don’t know what they were thinking.

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            Fair enough, my sentiment was towards liberal arts schools in general. Transylvania University is quite a name.