Collective Shout, a small but vocal lobby group, has long called for a mandatory internet filter that would prevent access to adult content for everyone in Australia. Its director, Melinda Tankard Reist, was recently appointed to the stakeholder advisory board for the government’s age assurance technology trial before the under-16s social media ban comes into effect in Australia in December.

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    “[Elon Musk] said he wanted to get his own X payments platform «going soon»”.

    Surely that’s going to solve the problem. There’s absolutely no censorship on Twitter. /s

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      Oh it’ll be interesting to see how he manages to make a worse payment processor than PayPal. I wouldn’t have thought it was possible.

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      When there are enough competing parties, the argument of “I live in country A and I don’t care about B’s special services reading my messages”, where A and B are in a state of adversity, starts working.

      By competing parties I mean not just A and B, but a plethora of snakes in that pit.

      So - do it Elon. It’s fine.

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    So sick of conservatives forcing their beliefs on others. Filter your own content, use parents controls, don’t ban everything you don’t like because of your arrogant belief in made up morality. Morality is relative and religion does not give your opinions weight.

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      Yeah but Jesus definitely preached love thy neighbor, do unto others as you would have them do unto you, and also, ew gay people not in my back yard.

      I’m pretty confident on two of those anyway

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      everything you don’t like

      On issues like these, conservatives will discover the magic of actual reasons. It’s only “things you don’t like” when we’re talking about banning hate speech or something.

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    To clarify against what many people jump to assume: Collective Shout is not a religious organization. Its stated goal is protecting children against content they believe may help form dangerous and abusive behaviors in real life. (Needless to say, science does not seem to back these claims)

    This doesn’t make them right by any means at all, but we need to understand our enemy if we want to be productive in fighting it.

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      Melinda Tankard Reist is conservative, religious and anti-abortion. Collective Shout has not made any statements leaning either right (such as anti-lgbtq or anti-abortion) or left (such as pro-lgbtq or pro non exploitative porn). It is a small charity yet and they are likely playing for the center to maximize its donations. If it ever becomes self-sustaining, it has a much higher chance of shifting right then left.

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      I don’t think this is entirely true. They’re not overtly religious, but there’s a lot of ostensibly “feminist” groups in many countries that are being funded by US religious groups. Someone posted their financials the other day, and they are simply not plausible for a random “we don’t like porn” activist group. There’s a lot of astroterfing going on, and the worst part is that everyone seems to just be accepting it.

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      Um, the founder of Collective Shout, Melinda Tankard Reist, absolutely identifies as a pro-life Christian who has said that her faith 100% influences her activism.

      So it’s absolutely hilarious that you believe we need to “understand our enemy”, when you’ve failed to identify the faith and influence of the founder and primary force behind it.

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      Yeah there doesn’t seem to be any alternatives in my country other than cash which doesn’t work for online purchases.

      Apparently there is a complicated thing I can do where I have to go to the post office and then I can send money directly to a company. But that’s really inconvenient (it’s like a 30-second walk from my house, I’m not doing that) and I don’t think steam accepts that payment method anyway. In fact I’ve never heard of anyone except that payment method so I don’t really understand why it exists.

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    Feels like we’re going back to the 90s/00s “Christian parents against video games” moral panic era. But this time, they’re being appeased more heavily.

    I despise conservatism. It destroys everything it touches.

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      Just as long as they get rid of dungeons and dragons. Everyone knows that’s the real danger in our society.

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          It’s amazing how they have a book that tells them to love everybody and somehow they’ve taken that, and turned it into oppress everybody.

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            Ugh… This shit again…

            The fucking Bible is FULL OF FUCKING HATE. Hate for women, hate for blacks, hate for gays, hate for the “other”.

            I’m really sick of people trotting out two lines from that book of fairytales and doing a pikachu face “how could people read this and be evil?!?”

            Easily, because the Bible is filled with vile shit. Because it’s made up bullshit that let’s you argue every side of every point because it’s a amalgam of garbage written by idiots with the occasional line of wisdom sprinkled in.

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              Kind of like how we love watching old Tom and Jerry cartoons, but would generally prefer to lightly forget how those cartoons contained frequent racist caricatures towards indians, island natives, black people, etc.

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    Let’s say it like it is: after the world of hundreds of developers is undermined, and the property of thousands of customers is compromised.

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    Good on her parents for putting Tankard in her name since you need at least one to deal with her bullshit. Bad on them for releasing her into the world instead of into a rectum where she belongs.

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    “Face backlash” = about 160,000 people signed a petition saying they disagreed with it, then went about their daily lives and totally, 100% without a doubt continued using their Visa or Mastercard credit cards.

    They don’t care, there are no alternatives. They can do whatever they want.

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      Exactly. We need thousands of people calling them non stop disturbing them for hours on end, not just signing petitions.

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    While the pressure on the credit card companies should still work due to conversations behind closed doors, my understanding is that those companies are not actually payment processors. Payment processors are a bunch of companies/banks, some you likely haven’t heard of (one is PayPal though, feel free to make your voice heard to them), and they are taking legal responsibility for the transactions themselves, and thus actually have incentive to police transactions. Credit card companies themselves, not having those legal liabilities, would much rather people just spent their money everywhere as long as there was low risk of cards being stolen or misused.

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    What’s even the argument here? Steam already has parental control options, age gates, and content filters… if you don’t want your kids seeing that shit on steam, then, like, don’t let em?

    …meanwhile, let’s just continue shoving blatant gambling down minors’ throats in the form of lootboxes.

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      The argument is control. Religious zealots are all about controlling society and subduing people to follow their rules (that they themselves tend to break all the time)

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        That’s their goal for sure, what I mean is how are they pretending to justify it?

        There’s usually some on-paper benevolent veneer to wrap their hateful bullshit up with.

        For example, they hate trans people, but they don’t campaign on that out loud - they justify that hated under the guise of shit like protecting bathrooms.

        But this is fucking Steam - access to that bathroom is already under lock and key behind an armed guard. They can’t just pull the “think of the children!” card when the children already have a myriad of protections.

        …or maybe they can, considering what just happened. We live in stupid times.

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          They are quite literally lying about the content of games like GTA V. They pulled the whole “the goal of the game is killing women” schtick

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          They want a nanny state to do their parenting for them, cus they are shit parents who spend their time petitioning the government about things they could just fucking unplug.

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            Bingo. They’re just projecting their failures as inadequate parents because they didn’t realize how hard child rearing would be after knocking up their high school sweetheart and buying a white picket fence. It’s always the same case.

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          That’s their goal for sure, what I mean is how are they pretending to justify it?

          The same way they always do: “WONT SOMEBODY THINK OF THE CHILDREN!?!?!?!1111”

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          They precisely can and they kinda just did. “Think of the children” is the magic phrase to shut down critical thinking and give you carte blanche to do whatever you want.

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            Not always. School shootings happen and suddenly crickets on gun control. “Think of the children” only applies to moral outrage, not tangible physical threat prevention. Also applies to school lunches and any other actual tangible thing to ACTUALLY benefit general child welfare.

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      And the reason sexual things had to be filtered was that they are harmful and skew kids’ perception of healthy sexuality.

      Gambling wasn’t considered healthy even where and when marrying a toddler was normal. After all, a traumatized person with unhealthy sexuality does generally understand they are traumatized, a person taught that addiction is normal - not.

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      This group isn’t interested in protecting children they’re just interested in pushing their own beliefs on everybody else. The easiest way they can do that is to pretend that they’re interested in children. Which I’m sure some of them are, but not in the capacity that anyone wants them to be.

      It’s a classic right-wing tactic. Because nobody wants to be against a law that protects children.

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      Diner card is fortune 500 company cards only at this point they don’t do normal consumer or even small business cards anymore.

      Discover replaced thoses with the mergers.

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    “The internet has no borders. Women and girls everywhere are impacted by male violence against women and misogyny in general which we believed these games perpetuated,” she said.

    Yet the fictional violence against men and boys is A-Ok!