Guess it’s time to go underground, sigh.
You should already be underground
Instructions unclear, now sitting in basement.
Here i am again doing my duty https://mullvad.net/en/why-privacy-matters
Protip for anyone unfamiliar: Mullvad really is the gold standard for a private VPN. If you just want to pirate shit and not get angry letters from your ISP, Nord or PIA will accomplish that. But if you REALLY want privacy, Mullvad is it.
I personally prefer Proton. They seem to get blocked less often.
(And yes I’m aware of the CEO controversy, he seems more like a Libertarian to me, not some right wing extremist)
That mask almost fell but he’ll make sure it doesn’t slip again
We all wear masks
Idk why but the simplicity of it has me convinced and so far it works well.
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Based on that logic, ammunition and arms manufacturers should be held liable for damages as well.
The US has a law to limit the liability of gun manufacturers.
The Protection of Lawful Commerce in Arms Act (PLCAA) is a U.S law, passed in 2005, that protects firearms manufacturers and dealers from being held liable when crimes have been committed with their products. Both arms manufacturers and dealers can still be held liable for damages resulting from defective products, breach of contract, criminal misconduct, and other actions for which they are directly responsible. However, they may be held liable for negligent entrustment if it is found that they had reason to believe a firearm was intended for use in a crime.
Because of fucking course there is
Were talking about Jesusland after all
More like, if you steal something you are banned from using roads and sidewalks and doors.
Gonna be a lot of issues that come from this. Legally speaking. It’s already on the books that an IP address doesn’t represent a single person… so I’m not terribly clear on how they plan to enforce this even if it were to pass.
Yeah, sure but to “steal something” is to imply that you’re depriving the original owner use of the thing you stole. This is more like making an exact copy depriving nobody of use of the original thing.
it’s more like depriving someone use of roads, sidewalks, and doors because they got caught walking out of Kinkos
Yes, but that would mean that logic has any bearing on what the Supreme Court decides to do
I hate that you’re absolutely correct
So all tech companies?
I nominate we test with out with the Zuck and his networks.
I’m not doing piracy, I am merely training my AI!
The recent judgement did not, in fact, say that pirating was legal if you use the pirated material to train AI.
Call me when all these LLM get their internet cut off then.
The mere accusation causing someone to lose the Internet, which is vital to modern life, would be insane.
Additionally, it would do little to nothing to stop piracy.
they actually do think that if you stop piracy people will flock back to streaming services when in reality all that will happen is i’ll just watch more twitch.
I just watch free shit like Tubi, Pluto, Roku, YouTube, Vimeo, Peertube, DailyMotion, etc.
You wouldn’t be able to access twitch. You’d have to buy cable TV or an antenna for the free channels. Either way media wins via commercials.
i’d just go to a local fast food resturant and bring my portable piracy machine
Then they’ll lobby against public WiFi. I was in China recently and (depending on the province) you need a phone number to access public WiFi so that they know who you are.
I hope that this doesn’t come to the US. Even now, a lot of the available Wifi hotspots are from cable companies (which require their account logins, so they definitely will know who you are).
Would giving a throwaway VOIP number that’s untraceable to someone fool that kind of service, I wonder? Unless caught right away, they would probably have to get their identity on an individual basis.
In China there is no such thing as a throwaway number (at least outside of black markets). All numbers require ID to acquire.
For the US it would be a bit different. VOIP numbers do exist but they are often also blocked by services (this isn’t black and white but there are services that will quite accurately map numbers into ranges like home/cell/business/VoIP).
But of course the assumption would be that if they start requiring phone numbers for WiFi access the logical next step would be to make all numbers traceable to humans.
i imagine you in a mcdonalds with an 80’s era easy bake oven plugged into an outlet in a booth with a sign saying “free cookies.”
What will they do when entire College campuses lose internet access because half their students are pirating text books
They will use it as another excuse to damage education.
Isn’t that the plan?
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low key hope this happens.
it’s gonna be fuckin funny to watch all IT in the US grind to a halt because everyone who WFH can’t work because their internet was cut off.
then a week into mandatory office returns someone will get the whole datacenter cut off because they’re running torrents from their laptop.
dumb fucks are going after the worst people to fuck with.
- fieldworkers
- women
- gamers
- IT support
don’t fuck with IT. they know what filthy shit you watch from home.
And they don’t care what filthy shit you watch from home so long as they don’t have to see it
I’m not a judge, but isn’t internet essentially a utility these days? Cutting someone off because of piracy seems like cutting off electricity or water because they did something illegal with it.
They could even be totally innocent, the mere accusation is enough, wtf?
Due process seems to just be a recommendation.
Recommendation???
No.
It’s a luxury you can try but only if you can afford it.
USCIS can deport a non-citizen for accusations of drug use, including weed.
Let that sink in.
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That sink is a vampire, don’t let it in
Pragmatically, yes. Legally, no. Progressives have been fighting for years to get internet classified as a utility in the US, and regressives and (ironically) internet companies have been fighting against that effort at every turn in the name of profit.
And now look how well that’s turned out. Gee, if only some people had warned them that deregulation was a monkey’s paw…
Inb4 palantir cuts off your electric and water because you had 15% eye distraction during the mandatory 3hr nightly fox news viewing.
bottle water companies would love this, as would the oil giants
I’m pretty sure this supreme court would rule that people don’t have a right to electricity, or even water. They’ll probably be totally ok with people losing internet access as punishment for crossing media owners.
or even water
We never stopped the “lol treaties with Native American tribes don’t count” bullshit.
to be fair the treaty never specified anything about water, and the Navajo nations should have had better lawyers or better guerilla warfare tactics if they wanted more negotiating power.
Besides your point but this is the aspect about Gorsuch that I can’t seem to make internally consistent. He almost always rules in terms of native rights – even when, I think, it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle – yet is more than happy to rule as a conservative on all other times and support “industry” and big business (even when it stretches his supposed originalist guiding principle).
I know that nothing necessitates a person to act logically and most act from emotion, more than anything, but most people, I find, have a relative reason they think they’re being logically consistent but I can’t seem to suss even that out, with regards to him.
They will cut off electricity if you do something illegal with it…
Not even piracy. Accusations thereof.
more importantly because of accused. Just accused.
I’m some places in the States they will cut off your electricity or water for sharing with a neighbor that has had theirs shut off. I have seen both happen personally, and not in some back water state. They both happened in upstate NY.
Cut off for sharing, or cut off for running illegal/unsafe/unlicensed wiring and plumbing connections?
For straight up running a hose or an extension cord so they’re not completely doa.
accused piracy, too. Not proven. Not convicted. Just “pirate go bye bye.”
I’m not a United Statesian so I have no clue anymore how it works there, but other places have been making the case that the Internet is an essential service and that access to it is a basic right. So to leapfrog off your question, is that like a poor person stealing a loaf of bread being cut off from food because they didn’t food responsibly enough?
Unfortunately the country I was born in, the USA, is also one that voted against the international resolution to define food as a human right. 😕
didn’t many European countries remove People’s hand for theft a few centuries ago?
This would be the case had net neutrality not been killed off nearly a decade ago
Net neutrality is why your online jokes were censored under Biden
– John McRacist, Republican congressman, former CFO of Evil Inc., former lawyer of Vile Ltd., member of Christofascism Society and Roman Salutes to Jesus
What about legitimate torrented content? Are they going to outlaw the technology outright? Don’t plenty of legitimate downloads use torrents to speed up software updates and such?
Yes. I share like 100+ Linux distros via torrents.
A load of game patchers use torrent tech to improve speeds. Lots of gamers torrent with out even realizing it
Hell, windows itself does it.
See you guys in I2P :)
The unproven claims is the key part here. Also the point of “terminating an account would punish every user in a household” is important as well.
You can fine someone for piracy if you want. As long as they have the standard legal protections. But cutting access is excessive.
I’m not doing piracy, I’m just trading a lot of data packets with a Proton Server in Switzerland, nothing to see here 😉
It’s like trading cards, gotta trade em all!
This is actually why I usually install a VPS in whichever country I’m physically in—my end devices always appear to be connecting to something innocent in-country (like a corporate VPN). That VPS then does the double-hop out of the country so that the VPS also seems pretty innocent too.
I don’t think it’s actually more secure though since the VPS is in my name and it’s technically decrypting everything. But I’m a bit less paranoid about that. (I’m not doing tons of illegal shit anyway.)
Look at it this way. Who would you rather risk pissing off, your ISP or a VSP Hosting company?
put the qbittorrent-wireguard container on the vps.