More info about it here: https://www.ghacks.net/2024/08/13/windows-11-start-menu-is-getting-a-new-layout-to-organize-your-apps/
I love how microsoft never learns their lessons.
This is why I use Fedora for everything except gaming and MS Office.
Linux and gnome pretty much gtfo of the way for me - as an OS should. I used to care a lot about what Microsoft did, now I couldn’t care less - F em
KDE is the best and much easier and polished to ex windows users
Oh cool, good to see the power button is still on the other side of the fucking menu. You know, the thing that I’m clicking on 90% of the time I’m opening the Start Menu? Why have that easily reachable like in past versions of Windows? Silly me I guess.
This isn’t the first time Microsoft has done this, I remember this being a huge gripe for me with Windows 8/8.1
Hey that was when they thought it was also a smart idea to force that shit tablet view on users…
I didn’t mind it actually. Like I don’t mind the GNOME overview or whatever the thing that comes up when you press Meta is called
I guess the difference is that the Gnome overview has been thought out amazingly, has a fantastic search function that actually works, and Gnome takes heavy advantage of their superb implementation of workspaces (virtual desktops).
Gnome doesn’t really feel designed for tablets, it feels designed for everything. Hot corners, large click targets, and having good keyboard shortcuts makes it feel good on a desktop, amazing trackpad gestures make it feel at home on a laptop.
Win8 had options scattered everywhere, a search that was just starting to turn bad, and initially did silly things like only let you use one app at a time, no matter your screen size. It was forcing a tablet UX that just felt wrong on a PC.
I think Microsoft were hoping thin and light foldable/tablet devices (that were all the rage at that point) were a good way to sell more windows licenses (thin and lights are weaker hardware so will likely need updated more to keep up with performance demands), hinges are weak points so hardware will be replaced more, all meaning more licenses sold. They were trying to force Windows down this path, IMO.
Come on, it’s totally intuitive! Just put your mouse in the top right corner, off the screen, and swipe down to make the “charms” bar slide out from the side.
Wait, what?
i love the workflow of gnome, it takes time to get used to but its really nice
Gnome is still a bit quirky to me and I’ve been running it on my latest install. I still don’t get their idea of by default, without extensions, how I’m supposed to use software that requires a tray icon to use.
And they did it on Windows Server too, which made even less sense.
You mean you didn’t use touch screen monitors on your servers?
Don’t your servers run on phones?
Strangly this UI always reminds me of the hospital scene from Idiocracy… Click the icon for where it hurts
Uh THIS one goes in your mouth
… wait, no.
With Windows 8, they all hurt.
Yeach the ui sucked, kinda sucked. I actually kinda liked it on 8.1 . But the one thing windows 8 did right was efficiency. I still remember my update from windows 8 to 10 when witcher 3 on my laptop went from barerly playbale to unplaybale. Sad story.
Power options: sleep after 5 minutes
Power button action: shutdown
You’re welcome
Alt+F4
Then you wouldn’t notice all the fun and exciting recommendations they have for you! /s
Win+X > U > U
Shuts down your machine with no mouse required, use U > R if you wanna restart
This is the way
I just Alt + F4 from the desktop or just press the power button. I always change it to regular old shutdown.
agree on the power button change, unless you have little kids, in which case the button should just be disabled.
I saw other people mentioning managing multiple computers in an offise space. I wouldn’t trust that everybody wound configure the power button action.
i don’t understand what you mean exactly
Right click the start button instead
If they didn’t take that away.
Just wait. At the rate they’re going it won’t be long before you’re forced to sit through a 30 second full screen ad in order to even open the start menu.
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not yet, they haven’t.
I was about to comment this. And to anyone saying they are taking that away we all know how bad they are at removing legacy options so I’m sure this will be here until at least windows 14.
Sorry if you already know but if you can also do win+x to get to shutdown menu
Win+x, u, u shuts down.
genuine question, why do you click that button? Why not use the physical button on the device?
Software shutdown button presser chiming in.
There’s two reasons I tend to use the software button. I know for a fact that clicking “Shut Down” will actually shut down the computer. If I press the hardware button, the computer usually is configured by default to sleep. Yes, I could change this default behaviour on all the devices I use, but then there’s the second reason:
From a psychological perspective, I tend to associate the hardware button as a “only use if system is locked up” button.
Yep, if you’re in charge of managing hundreds of computers, you don’t want to guess at what it’ll do. We have our defaults but also have people who make exceptions depending on their own work needs. Tbh, I rarely use that button anyhow though, I right click on the start menu to get that menu instead and use shutdown, restart, or log out.
Further reason, the physical button isn’t always in a location that’s convenient to push. Sure it’s usually accessible, but sometimes it’s under a desk or behind a monitor or some other awkward location. Mouse and keyboard by their nature are always located in a conveniently accessible location.
I’m sitting at my desk and my computer tower is out of reach unless I get up and reach over. Gotta showcase that RGB
Looks like someone at Microsoft saw someone’s iPad and went “That’s what we need! Icons in boxes that need an extra click to be used!” and their MBA boss figures they’ll get a bonus for “increasing user engagement” by making everything take two actions instead of one now.
Sigh.
From the linked article:
One interesting thing about it is that clicking on an icon instantly launches the app, without opening the folder.
Isn’t that what start menu icons do already?
Yeah but soon they’ll be automatically grouped together into something that looks like folders
200%+ engagement ratio
Llol, it’s funny but also probably true. God I hate statistics and MBAs.
I like the Phone Companion bar too. The folder grid is reminiscent of Windows 8 and is a nod to iOS… I guess haters gonna hate, but this seems like a nice improvement.
I’ll be over here hating then.
This is the Window 8 menu bullshit all over again.
I genuinely don’t understand what more people could want in a start menu, just needlessly against all forward momentum and change?
Just against pointless change.
You can see your phones status and recent messages from the start menu now! More start menu icons are exposed in the space they’ve added an organization mechanism. I think the point is to improve its usefulness
My personal phone is not linked to my computer. My work computer will never be linked to my work computer because I don’t have a work provided mobile phone. I do expect this new menu to nag the shit out of me to link a phone based on prior Windows ‘features’.
I don’t use windows messages.
I see fewer icons in the preview image than I see on the start menu now.
This is far less useful than the existing menu, which is less useful than the windows 7 menu. This is like how they hid half the things I used on the right click menu under the ‘show more’ option.
Pretty sure the bar goes away when you don’t use Phone Link! I use Phone Link, as you should too assuming you own a phone. I like it because that + the iCloud app basically brings feature parity to my Macs built-in Phone integrations. The simping over Windows is bizarre, it’s like you guys are pissed that Windows 2000 isn’t still supported, come join us in the 21st century please. “Any feature I don’t personally use is pointless and bloat” is a childs argument.
“Everyone else should be subjected to my preferences” is also a child’s argument.
If i wanted a Mac I would buy one. They are great for people who like them, but their extremely integrated environment is used to justify exclusive software and hardware requirements that I don’t want to be limited to. Windows forcing an online account is aping Apple and I hate it.
It’s not as bad as people here are making it out to be. It actually might even be an improvement. It’s only for the all apps tab, and it organizes apps by their purpose, and you don’t have to click the folder to expand it and then click the icon, as you can just click the icon and it will launch it. I’ve been using Windows 11 since it came out, and the all apps tab is something I have barely ever used. All my important stuff is neatly organized in one single tab of my home star menu screen, and anything that is not there I’ll just look it up with search.
These people are stupid fucks.
This is a new layout for the “all apps” section. It is toggle able, so if you don’t like it you don’t need to use it. I will give it a try but I don’t often go into all apps anyway.
So much negativity here.
Yeah its pretty funny to see people that allegedly don’t even use windows acting like it kicked their dog when they do anything.
Thanks, I hate it
Had to spin up a virtual windows machine the other day and was just honestly appalled at how bad the desktop experience is these days
Can write reskin Windows 11 to look like 95/98?
Cuz that would be cool. Just hide all the bullshit. Have a functional desktop again.
You can’t rewrite windows to look like that, but you can make linux look like this:
That’s awesome.
Cool, will this one work, or will it still go unresponsive and/or fail to find the app called the exact thing you typed?
it only changes the look, not how search works, unfortunately for windows users
I for one dont see the fault in the design itself. Geniuenly looks like something usefull for pepole that use lots of tools.
If not for the fact that it already exist in the goddam pinned section in start menu and it replaces all items menu. Whyyy? These are not replecable by each other.
I use a lot of tools. I access them by hitting the windows key and typing the name of what I want. Or at least I used to before they incorporated a web search into the start menu that fucks it up 8 times out of 10. IDK how they ever thought that was a good idea. If I want to search the web I’ll do it in a fucking web browser.
People still use the start menu?
I just use the search bar and type in the app I’m wanting to run
I can’t even tell you the number of times and apps I’ve literally typed the name of, and windows either doesn’t find it, or decides to make me wait 5-10 seconds while it searches the web instead. Super helpful…
well window’s search is almost non-functional, so there’s that
It’s the same thing. Click bottom left corner, start typin. best workflow.
It’s awful, but KDE will copy it one day.
