According to the comments r/europe_sub and r/canada_sub might be involved as well.
Coordinated astroturfing on reddit isnt even a new thing. I had the chance to watch how the whole marketing efforts for the Burnout Paradise remaster unfolded from the very first minute . That was back in 2018. It was so blatant how all the posts popped up on the same minute on several different subreddit and then slowly filled with obvious shill comments which got unnatural ammounts of upvotes. I mean there was also some natural engagement. Its still a beloved franchise. But that made it even easier to pick out the tonedeaf marketeer comments since the remaster wasnt that great and it already showed in the prerelease footage. Astroturfing was probably a thing from the very beginning of reddit. But thats the first example i noticed because it was just so obvious.
But thats the first example i noticed because it was just so obvious.
You must have been too young in 2015. Redditors watched in amazement as “the switch” flipped from Bernie to Hillary in literal hours.
The DNC later admitted to spending millions of dollars on actual shills, employed by ActBlue, to “Correct the Record” on Hillary.
Man the CTR shit was so annoying
Palantir is the absolute scum of the information world. Tech with promise, but used in the worst kind of ways.
Yeah, its like they named themselves intentionally.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Palantír
The software data-collection company Palantir Technologies was named by its founder, Peter Thiel, after Tolkien’s seeing stones.
he also named his other companies, various LOTR themes too. anduril, lembas,etc.
Anything Peter Thiel is involved in you know it is going to be fucking evil on some level.
apparently he is known to have his own island of f—boys. and his boy toy bf last year got mysteriously defenestrated in florida(they alleged suicide, but it seems highly suspicious especially the bf was complainig about the anti-lgbtq+ stance of thiel)
From what I can tell he idolizes Saruman.
A powerful henchmen of the evil lord with secret designs on overthrowing him to become the new big bad guy power. That tracks.
What kind of ways, can you explain?
Reddit’s been compromised for a while.
We really should be talking about Rampart.
10 years at least.
at the most is when turmp came to power 1st term, suddenly culture war propaganda has cause so many people oversensitivity over race, people were getting banned for even mentioning race in the politics subs.
Setting aside the veritable TITAN-loads of shady shit Palsntir is up to, it’s also worth noting that Reddit’s policy changes have made it clear that providing a platform for the spread of disinformation is a central part of its current business model, so I’d assume that not only is Palantir using it for that purpose, but that they are far from alone.
Just waiting for Thiel to buy Reddit.
He probably already bought it through private equity.
spez might sell it to musk instead.
Thiel funded reddit. He’s had his hands in it since 2014.
Damn, I forgot about that somehow. I hate this timeline.
Reddit’s policy changes have made it clear that providing a platform for the spread of disinformation is a central part of its current business model
I left reddit years ago, what are these policy changes that you’re talking about and how do they relate to spreading “disinformation”?
My take: removing API access and banning mods who protested saying that this would centralize tooling (removing 3p access), plus banning users who mentioned Musk or Luigi as “violent” are clear indicators that they are disinformation sympathetic, despite the primarily “left wing” seeming content that remains. Also a lot of promoted content is disinformation, as can be seen in minutes of browsing.
Vibes. Got it.
I mean, usually people don’t say “I am disinforming you, hah!”. We can only rely on that weird feeling that something isn’t right. That’s what makes it so pernicious compared to plain good faith misinformation.
I’m not sure what you interpret from the words “policy changes” but they dont usually refer to a weird feeling.
plus banning users who mentioned Musk or Luigi as “violent”
Correct me if I’m wrong, but wasn’t the new rule to remove and/or ban any comment or person who calls for violence against specific people? I wouldn’t really say that’s “disinformation sympathetic”. Even if it’s what you originally said, how does that have anything to do with “providing a platform for the spread of disinformation”?
Also a lot of promoted content is disinformation
Promoted content as in ads?
Officially yes. I got banned for saying “Musk fuming is violently toxic”, site wide and permanently from 6 subreddits. Others got banned just saying “Luigi is innocent”. Try it out. That reads more like quashing free speech to me.
Disinformation in the ads, yes. Also front page stuff making past moderation. Today in r/science I saw “Democrats are less tolerant of Republicans than vice versa” and a load of unscientific hogwash saying Republicans are not as intolerant as Democrats think. Go find it yourself if you don’t believe me.
That seems like a platform of disinformation to me.
I’m sorry but I don’t believe you were banned sure wide for saying that, and no one has been banned for saying “Luigi is innocent”. Not a chance. Can you please share the ban message and link to the comment?
As for tolerance, well I’m sorry but I think it’s pretty clear that that is right lol. Coincidentally I saw this last night on Twitter:
As we saw with Simone Biles recently, who was attacked by her fellow democrats because she wasn’t pro-trans enough in her vile attack on Riley Gains, the “tolerant left” are anything but. They even like to proudly cite the “paradox of tolerance” at every opportunity.
How can I share a comment that has been removed? The original is not accessible to me.
Here’s all I have (happened in justguysbeingdudes, and 4 others):
Hello, You have been permanently banned from participating in r/harrypotter because your comment violates this community’s rules. You won’t be able to post or comment, but you can still view and subscribe to it.
Note from the moderators:
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But no point in further engaging with a bad faith troll. I bet you believe Trump won the 2024 election with no tampering or unfair purging. I don’t think evidence works on your kind of person. Therefore you are unlikely to convince me of anything.
How can I share a comment that has been removed? The original is not accessible to me.
The ban message usually has the offending comment in it.
The one you just posted clearly states why you were banned from r/harrypotter - you admitted to deliberately reposting content that was removed already. Even if that wasn’t the content that was removed, you told them that you were doing it.
Also if you were banned site-wide then you wouldn’t have been able to edit that comment in order to get banned from the harry potter sub. So did you actually get banned from reddit, or just from a few subs? Individual mods banning you is different to admins banning you. Your story doesn’t add up.
I hate that you’re making me even remotely defend reddit lol. Reddit is a far left agenda pushing shithole. You will not be banned from the entire site for saying “Elon musk fuming is fatally toxic”. You just won’t. Were you actually perma-banned from the entirety of Reddit, not just r/harrypotter?
But no point in further engaging with a bad faith troll.
I bet you believe Trump won the 2024 election with no tampering or unfair purging.
Oh so you think the election was “stolen” do you? I thought that didn’t and couldn’t happen?
half of its already bots, so im not surprised and it usually the propaganda bots keeping up the engagements. Also i heard reddit wants to make thier post/account history mroe private so its harder to discern a bot.
It’s weird that a guntuber is where I saw this posted first… Granted he’s very clearly left if you watch some of his videos.
And he just posted a data security video the other day about how DOGE and Palantir are working together.
Which youtuber is that?
Inrangetv
I mean, obviously Reddit is full of astroturfing and psyops, remember when all of sudden everyone on that bloody website was a die-hard zionist when the week before most americans could not have placed Israel on a map
reddit being manipulated by information campaigns!?
Governments get really intense creating propaganda when they goto war. So if they’re going to war with Iran, expect lots of propaganda.
Or California.
remember worldnews suddenly shifted to israeli control right as the war started.
The number of pro-Isreal bots is ridiculous.
Oh no, sounds like I should avoid this reddit you speak of. Any suggestions for alternatives?
Versions of them are here already. Their focus right now is to:
- start violence at protests, especially around LA and target cities like NY, Seattle, Chicago, etc.
- seed doubt in anything related to the republican agendas or what they have done. Usually starts with, “I hate trump like the rest of us, but…” or something like that.
- downvote the shit out of people that call anything like the above out. They’ll come in later, one by one, to do this.
They usually congregate over the weekend and during or right after major events (like the protest). Watch for them this weekend or stay away from Lemmy. If you watch for it, downvote them and upvote the people fighting them, but most of all, take what everyone says with a grain of salt.
this is usually when I would say something conceited like “lol glad I don’t live in the US” but then I realise that I’m just as fucked as the rest of the world and we don’t have a future
hopefully microplastics will invade my colon/heart/kidneys/liver/brain soon and remove me from this living nightmare, I can’t deal with this shit anymore
Yeah, unfortunately they’ll target anyone they can. Brexit wasn’t even a law, it was a general, “Hey, how do you feel about brexiting?” Then they went full hog into, “You voted for it!” They do it with Ukraine/Russia, or anything they feel like targeting.
World disorder that benefits the billionaires seems to be the goal. I’ll never understand why they want to live in a world like that. Raising all boats makes a much more fun world. Who will they hire if we’re in a dystopian landscape, when everyone wants to get you because they have nothing to lose?
Take care of your mental health man. Find peace in the little things in life.
Raising all boats makes a much more fun world.
Billionaires are pathologically selfish, often it seems with actual personality disorders that make them unable to understand a world of mutual support and sharing, or to appreciate how much they benefit from others’ support. Unfortunately we let these people become far too powerful.
Unfortunately we let these people become far too powerful.
Yep. Enough so, that unelected Musk could walk into any government building and do what he wanted.
it’s sociopaths who lack empathy. And that leaves them behaving like capuchins. The one on the left is upset at the unfairness. But the one on the right doesn’t care at all. It just keeps taking its unfair advantage.
and reddit also wont ban these subs.
Facebook.
Let me throw a disgusted upvote in your general direction.
whispers in your ear
“4‐Chan”
Palantir
maybe engaging in a coordinated disinformation campaignIs, has been, is designed to, whole purpose is, etc… definitely not “may”…
🤦♀️ 🙄 🤡 🖕 💩
Source? I’ve never heard about pal being used for disinformation
Good evidence of astroturfing on Reddit. That Reddit took action and banned the Palantir agents only provides evidence that exposure of the op is the problem. Not evidence that Reddit acts in good faith.
Good evidence of astroturfing on Reddit. That Reddit took action and banned the Palantir agents only provides evidence that exposure of the op is the problem. Not evidence that Reddit acts in good faith.
A good question to ask, is what would happen if Lemmy was the victim of astroturfing. It’s decentralized for starters and groups might not even reside in the same place on the fediverse. Also I expect Reddit has monitoring, analytics and tools that could flag behaviour rather than somebody having to go through logs trying to find patterns.
I think Lemmy and other federated platforms have escaped having to deal with these issues simply because someone attempting to astroturf will do it on the biggest platform. So Lemmy escapes not by any technical or administrative virtue but by being smallfry.
Put me in my place if this is nonsense but doesn’t it make way more sense if the astroturfing is done by WSB goons? I just don’t see corporate entities coordinating this kind of thing
The top hits for my “WSB” search are:
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World Sports Betting
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r/WallStreetBets
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World Superbikes
I don’t think any of their goons are astroturfing (well, maybe World Superbikes). Did you mean a different entity?
Sorry I thought this was more common, it’s definitely wall Street bets
Do you mean investors are trying to manipulate stocks by planting stories? Yeah, I think so. But intelligence agencies have whole training programs on how to manipulate narratives, and a very long track record of doing so.
See: Israel’s hasbara apparatus,
GCHQ leaked documents on infiltrating and derailing socialist discussions,
Church Committee Hearings,
“The Cultural Cold War” by Frances Stonor Saunders.
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Who cares? Anyone still drinking the reddit cool aid is just asking for a leopard to eat their face.
I think we should all care about what misinformation is spread to what people
Yes. Reddit allows payola posts. Of course they are.
Palantir just partnered with TeleTracking. For anyone outside of health care, TeleTracking is a health tech company that’s been on decline for awhile.
Why is this relevant, you may ask? TeleTracking still has a lot of clients, many of which are smaller hospitals grandfathered into older, cheaper contracts. If you go to a hospital that uses TeleTracking, Palantir now has all your patient health information.
To add to this.
Retirement homes utilize community activity software. Sometimes this will link to health systems like point click care.
When this software company starts wanting you to upload resident profiles so their ai can populate interests? Yeaaaaah they found a work around for your PPI is what that is.
If it wasn’t a rush for data already it reallllly is now.
Scary.
Like 99% sure there have been corporate entities doing this for over a decade probably way longer
