• Sundray@lemmus.org
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    3 months ago

    I feel bad for people who have never been addicted to anything, because they’re the real losers. You want to know why? Because they don’t know what it’s like to really want something - and then get it again and again and again. (Marc Maron)

    But seriously, the one thing I’m proud of in my life is that I was able to quit smoking. Hard, but so worth it!

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      Same.

      But whooooo damn do I occasionally miss having a smoke.

      I’ve not smoked for more years than I smoked at this point, but the habit is in me. My brain only remembers the good parts.

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        My mother quit smoking 25 years ago and still has panic attacks about it every few weeks.

        That pisses her off so she won’t ever smoke again.

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        Yup, this is me with both alcohol and cigarettes. And it seems like the worse things are going for me, the better going back to it sounds.

        Still I’m so glad I don’t have to worry about keeping dosed anymore.

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          I love drinking until I’ve had a drink, and then I do that again every single day. I don’t drink a lot but it’s still aggravating.

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    What an insensitive and utterly vile post. If you understood anything about addiction, which I’ll remind you is a health disorder and not a personal choice, you would be ashamed of yourself. Some of us and our families are really struggling with huge impacts to physical and mental health, our entire lives, from addictions like this. Hope posting this made you feel better about yourself tho 👍

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      It’s alright they never had to suffer from the utter brainwash advertising we had. They are brainwashed the other way. It’s probably a good thing. World used to be a smoke cloud.

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      Mental inconvenience takes a number of forms, one of them is nicotine addiction. Some people with more standard brains than you and I can’t comprehend why we would regularly consume literal poison to feel better instead of, I don’t know, watching a Disney film or running until they sweat and smell.

      I have switched over to a vape and mix my own flavorless, scentless juice. I still feel like a pariah when I use it, and stick to alleys and back lots.

      I truly wish vape culture hadn’t had that bro moment of douche bags chucking clouds in theaters and making a fuss when imbibing indoors.

      I’d be slightly less embarrassed of the pile of addictions I’ve become.

    • cmhe@lemmy.world
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      3 months ago

      What does smoking a cigarette here or there has to do with addiction?

      Cigarettes aren’t the only way you can get addicted, you know. You made the connection between cigarettes and addictions, here in this post.

      Also wouldn’t it be the best advice against addiction find the will in oneself to stop doing it? If addicted smokers know what their cigarettes do for themselves and others, then they might want to try search for help, to get them off their addiction?

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        What does smoking a cigarette here or there has to do with addiction?

        Where did I or the original post mention anything about occasional smokers? This post is offensive to those struggling from lifelong addiction to cigarettes, which is almost never a choice.

        Also wouldn’t it be the best advice against addiction find the will in oneself to stop doing it? If addicted smokers know what their cigarettes do for themselves and others, then they might want to try search for help, to get them off their addiction?

        Gee, that’s such great advice! Why didn’t the lifelong addict think of that one themselves? You just singlehandedly solved addiction.

        Noone chooses being addicted to cigarettes. It’s a mental health disorder just like being addicted to fentanyl or heroin, and a crippling one at that for some. Please educate yourself about what addiction is before defending posts like this. What you are doing is similar to shitting on people for “choosing” their sexuality or gender.

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          Where did I or the original post mention anything about occasional smokers? This post is offensive to those struggling from lifelong addiction to cigarettes, which is almost never a choice.

          Where did they mention addiction?

          They mention cigarettes, and their bad affects on the people using them and the people around that. Stating that they are bad should not be offensive, because that is stating the facts.

          If they are offended by that… IDK. That is something they have to work through themselves.

          Gee, that’s such great advice! Why didn’t the lifelong addict think of that one themselves? You just singlehandedly solved addiction.

          You are misrepresenting what I said. I said that to get over an addiction you first have to want it. And you say: Just wanting to stop is not enough, and I agree.

          Noone chooses being addicted to cigarettes. It’s a mental health disorder just like being addicted to fentanyl or heroin, and a crippling one at that for some. Please educate yourself about what addiction is before defending posts like this. What you are doing is similar to shitting on people for “choosing” their sexuality or gender.

          True, however people don’t just wake up one day and be addicted. They have to take it first (willingly or unwillingly), putting a social stigma on the act of using these addictive substances, can at least prevent some people of getting accidentally addicted.

          So I would be in favor of supporting people getting out of their addiction, while preventing people to get addicted, by showing what is bad about these drugs and trying to fight against the social component of “taking them makes you cool”.

          What are you fighting for? Finding ways of being offended?

  • OldManBOMBIN@lemmy.world
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    3 months ago

    Joke is on you - I only smoke in elementary schools, so my house is practically tar-free. Now what, science man?

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    I used to work with a guy that smoked and refused to wear a seat-belt. He carried a gun though, just in case his life was in danger.

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      My work buddy will only eat meals made from single-ingredient foods because of “all the extra shit they put in there”, and smokes a pack a week.

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            3 months ago

            This is a bit disingenuous. When listed like that on food it’s because all of those were added in individually to create an ultra processed amalgamation resembling food. Otherwise ingredients would just say bannana.

            Processed foods have been clinically shown to be harmful to us. Bannanas seem to be okay

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              I guess it still leaves store-bought bread out I guess. Or yoghurt. Or milk

              But nah, I really do think it’s extreme. Pre-made food isn’t bad for you

              Either that or I’m just being European, idk

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                I think there’s a difference between prepared food and processed food. It can be a blurry line though.

                Maybe it is just being European though. American food standards are trash. The stuff allowed in our food is insane

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                  I wouldn’t call bread or yoghurt prepared instead of processed personally though, they’ve been through multiple chemical and biological processes.

                  Ultra processes foods is something that tends to be more appropriate I think. That’s stuff like chips or fast food. Though even that I consider fine to eat in moderation, and I, personally, do. Though I agree it would be better if I completely cut those out. I just tend to eat a lot of pre-made foods due to disability reasons (frozen pizzas, pastas, and the like)

                  But yeah, I do know that the US has some very lax food laws unfortunately. So maybe that is a big part of the difference

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            I thought you guys were talking about processed foods. Like potatoes > bread, that kind of thing.

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              I process my non-processed foods in hopes that it will kill me quick quicker. :p

              I’m so dark and cold inside. You wouldn’t understand.

              Huht huht huht

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      So of he loses control of his car and is heading at a tree, he can shoot the tree in self defense.

  • don@lemm.ee
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    I quit by vaping off of cigarettes, and then gradually reducing the nicotine in vape juice until I was vaping 0 nicotine for a couple of months, then stopped altogether. Been nicotine free for several years now, and no cravings.

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        Meanwhile idiots like me ended up vaping all day long and when I went back to cigarettes my tolerance was through the roof and I smoked more than I ever did.

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          Gotta taper the nicotine down, even if you vape like a chimney out of habit, that way when you do try a cigarette again the nicotine is overpowering and gross

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            True! I was out of my element last year and ran out of juice due to poor planning. Resorted to sharing a smoke and felt like garbage for the next two days.

            I do still miss the smell, though. Probably just nostalgia from feeling like a Cool Guy for the first time in my life choking down a Camel unfiltered behind the 7-11.

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          There’s still hope. I still chain vape, but the amount of nicotine I use is but a whisper. It’s entirely a routine at this point. I’m figuring out positive actions I can do whenever I feel the need to suck on my robot dick.

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            Asexual non smoker here. I have bad news for you:

            The urge of sucking robot dick is truly universal and inevitable.

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              I’m hoping we make First Contact soon so I can make a healthy transition from Robot Dick to Alien Dick.

              Sorry, that’s insensitive.

              Xenophallus.

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    When I was a teenager in the 90s, I once dated someone whom I thought otherwise to be a smart and collected girl.

    Then I watched her and her friend rummage the side streets for half smoked cigarette butts that people had disposed of out their car windows. The bliss in their eyes when they lit up a half smoked one.

    Looking through the eyes of an adult now, it makes me wonder why I continued to try and strike a habit myself over the next 2 years. Fortunate for me, it never seemed like my drug of choice, though I did find others.

    Being addicted to anything will make you realize just how fragile “giving a shit” really is.

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    I live with two roommates in a flat. One of them smokes. Of course, he has to smoke indoors as well, as if the whole place is his (we got two balconies btw) . Can’t describe when I get home after a long day in uni to come back to a flat that smells like a smoking friendly bar.

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      yeah that’s a dick move. I’m a smoker but i only smoke tobacco outdoors. i like being in a space i can smoke indoors, but it’s not gonna be my place

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      I feel like this should’ve been discussed before moving in together. Still not too late to talk though - if he’s even a little bit considerate, he’ll agree to only smoke outside.

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      So start smoking and you won’t even notice.

      Seriously though, as a lifelong smoker I do my best to keep it from being anyone else’s problem.

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          I won’t lie though, judging from how much of the litter where I live is cigarettes butts and packs, there seems to be a rather large overlap.

          Add people who drink Tim Horton’s coffee and that’s a solid 80% of the litter I see.

          (Am smoker, will carry smelly butts rather than throw them on the street)

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    I actually enjoy a good cigar every once in a great while. I do not like smelling like smoke so I either go outside or to the “smoke shack” in my basement which has a fan that sucks all the smoke outside.

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    I’ve smoked 3 packs a day by 25 y/o. Started with 17. stopped with 27. I don’t regret stopping, I feel better. But I miss it.

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    Nearly all of my family smokes, and I fucking hate it. There were countless times, as far as I can remember, when I tried to do something with my dad, it was nice for a while, then he goes for a ‘quick smoke’ and stays there forever.

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    I’ve read last week that tobacco is radium rich and decomposes to polonium and radon - cigarettes are radioactive and it contributes to its nasty effects on the lungs

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      Yeah that shit annoys the fuck out of me. Society really needs to change the way we treat people who smoke.

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        They did… and it caused most people to stop smoking. Building that social stigma was like one of the best health marketing campaigns in history.

        I say this as someone who used to and still does smoke time to time.

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          Many people that smoke are already mentally unbalanced. Making them a shamed pariah is doing little for their mental health, it is just forcing them to hide yet another bit of their unhappiness.

          Not smoking is healthier, no doubt, but the majority of people that still do it undoubtedly have enough shame going on. Self hate comes into play, as well.

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          The amount of lives that social shift has saved is truly staggering. Nonetheless, it would have been nice if the attitude shift had been more genuine caring and less “eww smokers.”

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        I completely agree, ads like this that say " it’s bad for you", “you’ll hurt the ones you love”, “your family will miss you”, it’s all just anti-suicide pepole thinking they’re soo much better than everyone else

        blowing ones brains out shouldn’t be portrayed as a bad thing, we need change and show we respect and accept suicide!

        Also as a child of a heavy smoker, fuuuuuuck people who smoke around others, i don’t care if you want to harm yourself, but stay the fuck away from other people while you do it

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        Many people wouldn’t mind other people smoking, as long as it doesn’t impact non-smokers. But the thing is, smokers aren’t really all that considerate about non-smokers. I attended a couple festivals over the past week. It’s really annoying when you stand in packed crowd as a non-smoker and someone starts smoking. Sure, we are outside, but it literally makes breathing harder, especially for asthma patients.

        I don’t really see a way in which smokers and non-smokers can coexists without the smoker impacting the non-smoker. Even if you only smoke outside of the restaurant/bar, it will still be annoying and unhealthy to people entering the restaurant or bar.

        I’m very curious with how things will develop in France, where they banned smoking in area’s where children are present, which is virtually everywhere.