• A_Random_Idiot@lemmy.world
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    4 months ago

    I remain utterly convinced that Tiktok is nothing but a chinese psyop experiment to see how far they can manipulate people into actions that would otherwise be prevented by our brains screaming in self preservation.

    Has there ever been a “good” trend on tiktok? Every week its just another destructive thing that gullible idiots are being tricked into doing.

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      Has there ever been a “good” trend on tiktok?

      The ice bucket challenge was making rounds again. But there’s basically infinite harmless trends that nobody thinks of. The 100 men versus 1 gorilla thing is a trend and unless somebody jumps in a gorilla pen for Harambe 2.0 it’s been harmless.

      Reminder that the ice bucket challenge is something that raises awareness and funds for ALS research.

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        My question was “was there ever a good trend from tiktok”

        Icebucket challenge was from before tiktok existed.

        So kinda proving my point.

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      People have just been doing dumb things for reputation since forever. We had the cinnamon challenge back in our day.

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        yeah, the cinnamon challenge was dumb… but it didnt involve mass destruction, psychotic behavor, or contaminating food\ in stores.

        So its hardly comparable.

        Also it wasnt Tiktok. Predates it, significantly.

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      We skipped our 3310s down the road Infront of our school without tiktok brainrot. Kids today need chinese to tell them to be stupid. Back in our day, we were stupid on our own!

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        back in our day, our stupid wasnt malicious mass destruction or food tampering.

        It was actual stupid shit, like trying to jump over your friend as he raced towards you on his bike, or falling off a roof, Shit that only hurt yourself, if anyone. Wasnt breaking and entering and destroying shit so people in the next town over would think you were cool. We were stupid, but we werent that stupid.

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          Nah kids always do things that end up being malice since they don’t know it is maliceful. Kits are by definition retarded. Its expected of them to do dumb things.

          The fact you didn’t just means you were lucky.

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      It’s curated to cause problems, I wouldn’t believe anything otherwise. Douyin which is the Chinese version shows completely different content, including government narratives. Tiktok is straight brain rot, and I believe it’s curated to encourage poor behavior in users outside of China.

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      Sees teenagers doing dumb shit, like they have since literally forever

      “Is this a plot by the despotic orientals?!”

      Fucking listen to yourself. I’m not on TikTok. I just don’t care for vertical short-form video as a concept. But even I can tell you that not every TikTok trend is teenagers being destructive idiots.

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      I agree. I was exposed to a lot of leftist content on tiktok and it’s made me want to protest. Good thing you explained that it’s stupid.

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        TBF TikTok wants the US Government to fail regardless of who is in office at the time.

        It’s like that meme from flippanarchy the other day.

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      Soon as Chump took office the moderation flipped. It was open and handled well. Now if you call a corrupt politician an asshole you get a violation.

      Talk about Palestine get a violation. Critical of the Chump regime get a violation.

      Chow somehow inserted himself fully up Chumps ass on like Jan 22. TT hasn’t been the same since.

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        TikTok always favored Trump because China always favored Trump and TikTok is operated by Chinese Military directly out of Chinese servers which also store location data, contacts, text message history, and photo library of every device which has ever installed TikTok.

        It’s a weapon to be used against the US now and since always.

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          […] TikTok is operated by Chinese Military directly out of Chinese servers which also store location data, contacts, text message history, and photo library of every device which has ever installed TikTok.

          It wouldn’t surprise me, but can you point me to a trustworthy source confirming that claim? Also, does the TikTok app refuse to work without those permissions granted (Location, Contacts, SMS, Photos and videos)?

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            Years ago it was reported on by Internet 2.0 which was shared by news organizations such as Huffington Post. Additionally there was this guy on Reddit 5 years ago who decompiled the app and shared all the results on a subreddit made specifically for it LINK HERE and he claims that the app is literally more malware-like data collection than actual video playing app, like the amount of install data is mostly just the data collection tools.

            There were also House of Representatives intelligence briefings that went public but god those things are hard to sit through and read.

            If TikTok didn’t want these stories swept under the rug and if there wasn’t truth to these stories they could have sued these people for defamation. But they didn’t, implying they would have lost the case handily and looked bad for it.

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    If this were an unbiased and honest article; then it would read “Kids are short-circuiting their school-issued Chromebooks for social clout.” The subtle message, in this article, is TikTok = bad, which is illogical because events such as this will occur regardless of platform or even lack of a platform. It will ALWAYS happen. The question is how to mitigate these events as much as possible, because it’s impossible to completely eradicate “kids doing X for social clout.” It’s a part of learning and being human.

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      Yes but without tik tok this is a kid or two being stupid and charged a couple hundred at one school. I think we had 3 kids today at school destroy their laptops.

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        You can replace TikTok with any social media platform. That’s why this argument is illogical in that it blames TikTok.

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          But it’s not happening on any social media platform. These sorts of “challenges” and trends seem to happen almost exclusively on TikTok, for whatever reason.

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          I don’t remember Friendster causing mayhem like this.

          Lemmy seems to not be spreading challenges either.

          You have a point, but TikTok has a unique power in this moment.

          And if the students did see it on TikTok, then it’s factual, specific, reporting.

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            If it had happened on Friendster; then it would have been because of the specific user(s) creating and posting such content, not because of the platform. To say platform = bad because a user or users post negatively affecting content is a sweeping generalization which does not reflect reality, meaning that the negative connotation of TikTok = bad is still incorrect. The users which created and posted such content, in this case, are to blame.

            If students see such content on social media; then the first thought should not be: platform bad; it should be: who posted it, and for what reason(s).

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              It can be an issue with the people starting these challenges while also being an issue with the way tiktok works with sharing these copycat videos on the platforms algorithm.

              I don’t think “omg tiktok bad” but in the case of these dumb challenges, it is one of the few things I can see people actually pointing at when saying tiktok is bad, rather than “but china.”

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                it is one of the few things I can see people actually pointing at when saying TikTok is bad

                Yes, and this article reinforces that idea, regardless of whether or not TikTok = bad is correct, which is my point.

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      Yeah, could have been called “kids are learning how circuits work thanks to TikTok trend” and suddenly the story has a whole other meaning

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    Parents and psychiatrists have been trying to wrap their heads around how some of the more dangerous Internet trends take off, especially among kids.

    Kids are dumb and they do dumb things. There’s not really that much to wrap one’s head around.

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      And it’s not even like Internet trends are a new thing. TikTok has simply offered a platform that’s extra predatory about it.

      I can imagine that TikTok has been for Internet trends, to what slot machines did for gambling.

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        Yeah, like, first time?

        The presentation has changed slightly but the content is much the same. Back in the good old days I was a moderator on Totse forums (the original, but its web bulletin board incarnation and not when it was a BBS) and we literally had an entire subforum just titled “Bad Ideas.” This was where things got launched, torched, smoked, blown up, stolen, scammed, or otherwise mutilated. Or at the very least all of the above talked about, at length. All of this with an strong implicit suggestion to try it yourself. Most of the kiddos did not actually have the means to pull of what they claimed they did but the ones who could and more importantly had the means to prove it were celebrities. Usually only for a short time, for various reasons.

        The early Internet was basically just a repository for bickering about Star Trek, low grade porn, plans for how to build potato cannons, or schemes involving smoking dried banana peels. An immense amount of stupidity has always been there to be found, because the place was and is full of teenagers and teenagers are stupid.

        I sure was, when I was one.

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    I thought system will turn off USB port if notice current over draw. Look like I am wrong.

  • u/lukmly013 💾 (lemmy.sdf.org)@lemmy.sdf.org
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    the so-called Chromebook Challenge includes students sticking things into Chromebook ports to short-circuit the system.

    I am rather surprised that works. I thought any modern device would have overload protection in place. I think I even remember accidentally tripping it on some device, but it would just reset after reboot.
    I also tried to see the max output current of my previous phone this way. Load it up till the protection trips. Result: Stable up to 2.1A, tripped at 2.5A.

    Oh, yeah. A Xiaomi phone charger I have also shuts down if I either overload it or immediately load it near max rating rather than gradually increase the load.

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    Nearly 20 years ago, I was in a computer programming class surrounded by clunky towers and desktops.

    Suddenly, a loud popping, then one of the machines starts belching smoke like a budget fog machine. The kid using it is calmly moved to another station while the prof investigates.

    Fifteen minutes later - pop. Smoke again.

    Turns out the kid was jamming a paperclip into the power supply like he was playing Operation: Arson Edition.

    That was his last day.

    On the bright side, computers are a lot cheaper now - and kids are still dumb. So, maybe progress?

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      I have the same memory, except the teacher would just pop his head out from the office and tell us to knock it off. Someone managed to draw a giant line of Axe spray across the electronics desk/counter things and made a massive fireball. Nobody really got in trouble in that class.

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      This seems like something they should have engineered out of a product primarily used by schoolchildren.

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            They said 20 years ago. We literally had ‘use a paperclip to turn on the computer on the test bench’ as the standard practice. Designing things for people to do them wrong was very much not the style at the time.

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      We just pulled stupid pranks, like setting a repeating function with sound at the highest frequency in BASIC and locking the machines… on all the computers.

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      My cousin partially set his bedroom on fire doing something very similar with the foil from chewing gum. This was in the 1980s though so no one really cared, I’m pretty sure he just got shouted at.

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    So you mean there are laptop USB ports out there without current limiters?
    I would want to check my PC’s ports, but I am not filthy rich, so I’ll just assume stuff is not current limited.

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    As I age I find myself feeling more and more like the cool step-dad or uncle.

    Y’know I hate everything Chromebooks stand for. “You get 'em, kid. Now how about we get some pizza?”

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    Why throw the kids in the slammer? So they can eventually come back out as hardened criminals and contribute to the recidivism statistics, further circling society down the drain because they were betrayed by the corporations that injected their explosive products into our tax-funded school systems? They should give the TikTok kids full STEM scholarships for exposing these dangerous design flaws!

    Hold the Chromebook manufacturer liable for the unsafe hardware design flaw with no overcurrent protection, hold the school liable for recklessly issuing these dangerous laptops that cheaped out on safety features, and hold Google liable for neglecting power handling in their Chromebook software! Get the CPSC on the phone and get every single Flamebook recalled across the nation!

    It’s outrageous, egregious, preposterous!

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      But how else will google sell overpriced computers to schools despite lack of funding and force children to growing up with google products?

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        Isn’t the entire premise of Chromebooks is that they are extremely cheap compared to having actual laptops or iPads?

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          I think that’s what corporate propaganda said but I have never been able to find the procurement co tracts for these. I would love to see how the cost structure. I have a feeling it won’t that cheap TBH