Slop. Stop this shit.
This is AI?
Yes. Look at the nazi in the middle. He only has three fingers. Generally the anatomy is illogical in all three panels. Arms disappearing into nothing hands holding on to nothing eyes melting into nonsense on several characters. This wasn’t drawing by a human.
It is pretty ironic to me that someone is essentially trying to criticize the people who are currently ruining the world by using the very tech they developed to help them ruin the world. But whatever, I guess. It’s convenient and that outweighs artistic integrity, cultural integrity and care for the environment. Let’s just all mindlessly use these things that annihilates our planet at an even faster rate while the people whose hard work this glorified image generator steals from is being butchered and made worthless. It’s good for the culture to have it become soulless slop.
The fucking irony of them to then make an image that shows complicity and irresponsibility of the people who just did what everyone did at the time instead of resisting is a very funny meta layer that I don’t think they intended. I would rather they drew that meme themselves. Stick figures if they couldn’t draw. It doesn’t matter. The point would come across still, but no. They just had to go use a theft machine because why actually bother when you can just press a button? Why put effort into anything anymore? Why learn a craft when the AI can do all of that for you? Viva la revolución!
AI slop aside, I’m not even sure most of the people who slaughtered natives were just following orders (in many cases there probably weren’t even orders)… Manifest Destiny was pretty ingrained at the time.
The message: 👍
The AI generated slop: 🫤
I could’ve made this art.
Shocking truth:
Humans can make all art made by AI.
Humans can make all calculations made by computers.
People use tools to achieve their goals more efficiently. It’s the way it always has been. It doesn’t mean there’s no value attached to it.
Incidentally, for all of the “this is AI” brigade, what are you picking up on? I’m not picking up on any of the classic tells. Aside from the closed fists in the first and last image, where I’d personally go for an open hand, I don’t see anything obviously amiss.
Dude pulling on native american person’s braid, mother and daughter look too similar, mom’s hand is messed up, SS logos are messed up
There’s a wave of AI generated comics hitting lemmy right now. At first i was in the same boat as you, found it difficult to identify
Now after seeing more and more, my brain’s detection algorithms are updating.
I’m quite good at seeing obvious AI slop images, but comics was a totallly new thing i had to learn to detect
Ah, thanks for that!
I was genuinely interested because I used to lecture when the AGNs first started appearing. Ironically enough, I used to point out to the students how you could tell photos were generated (mismatching ears shapes, asymmetrical glasses, oddly shaped jewellery etc.).
Seems like I need more exposure to the comic art side of things!
If you’re interested in seeing how good it’s gotten now, some are impressive https://sora.com/explore/images
Humans can make all art made by AI.
They didn’t say “A human could make this”, they said “I could make this.”
People use tools to achieve their goals more efficiently. It’s the way it always has been. It doesn’t mean there’s no value attached to it.
This counters another argument that wasn’t made. Sure, the end product has some value, but also comes with the negatives that some people see as intrinsic in the use of AI.
what are you picking up on?
Yea, I don’t mind AI for personal use stuff like this. But AI in commercial stuff is a big no go.
To me, it is not even the commercial stuff that matters. AI-generated image should never be in public domain because it is all stolen from others, piece by piece. The copyright is a big question mark.
I agree with this entirely. I personally use AI to help me do things that I don’t have the time to do “the old fashioned way”.
I can draw, paint, sing, sculpt, etc, and I enjoy doing all these things very much. But I don’t have time any more - I have a full-time job, two kids taking up most of my time, and Long COVID means I’m asleep for almost all of what would be left over.
I’ve used AI to help me bring 2d art, music and 3d models into this world that would otherwise be trapped in my head.
Hands, faces, eyes, insignias. The usual shit.
The eyes, mostly. The braid thing is weird, too.
What ever you do, don’t look at the Native American’s eyes. 🥴
but you didn’t.
What’s your point?
You know when you repost someone else’s work, you should at least say who made it, right?
AI-generated artwork has thousands if not millions artists’ names attached to it.
I don’t understand. I mean, you’re right, of course. But, who are you answering? What are you answering?
Do it.
if you work for ICE I think your views already align with theirs
To be fair, the nazi guy also looks like he’s in the SS.
Why are there way more AI comic posts than usual lately?
Because sometimes people have an idea for a relevant comic, but not the artistic ability to draw it. So, they use AI tools to create the artwork.
Damn, you’re right, artistic talent is totally required to make webcomics.
I apologise for my glib response. I don’t doubt your sincerity. Things may change in the future. It’s just that in this particular historical moment AI has as much to do with democratising talent as nfts did with supporting solo artists/creators.
I am sorry. This combination is no longer allowed. Internet gatekeepers have spoken.
???
Regardless of my personal dislike towards AI, which I didn’t even express, I was just making an observation.
I think they were sarcastically replying to you. Pretending to be someone who actually has that opinion.
My comment is a little higher in the chain, they didn’t reply to me
AI shitposting is effortless.
Facts.
AI-generated. Thanks for training my neural network (brain) to identify more AI-generated images (slop).
What tipped ya off the weird faces or the woman with her child clone?
The font (a little bit weird-looking) and the texturing of the image (way too overdone). From that, I noticed the comic lacked a signature or watermark from a comic author, then I noticed that the characters are all just gazing into the distance.
Extra finger as well. Damn this one was good though, would’ve missed it if I hadn’t checked the comments and taken a closer look.
Where is the extra finger? I swear I can’t find it. A disappearing pinky
I feel like most artists would make the daughter similar to their mother. I don’t see how that’s weird.
The characters all have different and “accurate” reactions
Sherif is stern.
SS is annoyed.
ICE shows some compassion
Native American is noble
Jew is startled
“Illegal Aliens” are scared
There are a lot of details in everything.
If it wasn’t for the comments I wouldn’t think it is AI, but I do feel like people bandwagon on it. Top comment says AI, and everyone is going to say AI.
All the comics from the new GPT have the same style, you don’t even need to pixel peep. They just all have the same art style.
I get that Lemmy foams at the mouth whenever AI is involved, but why are there multiple comments calling this AI? Text is all correct, fingers are all correct, am I missing something?
Signature is missing
ChatGPT has a limited set of styles it tends to use, so once you see it a few times the rest starts looking more like AI. Text is “correct”, but that font in particular really stands out to me. Very detailed styles like that are also rare if it’s not AI because it would be way more work than something simple, if someone was putting in that effort the concept would probably follow the visuals more rather than the other way around, the expressions of the characters and the directions they’re looking seem a little bit random like that aspect of it was an afterthought.
Overall I actually like AI but I don’t really like the way it’s used here, the visuals are too goofy for the serious topic to the point where it gives off a slightly sarcastic vibe, and they don’t add a lot to a concept that would probably otherwise be a screenshot of a tweet or something.
I think it is, look at the SS badges of the SS officer. And the artstyle in general is a tell.
indian guy has one eye looking up and the other eye looking down
There are a lot of “you can tell by the way it is” type comments so I’ll be specific. Zoom in on the eyes of the Native American. Observe how the Union officer isn’t really gripping his arm with that hand. The little boy in the final panel is missing eye details.
There are some other telling details but those jump out right away.
The new openai model is very good at all these details, so it’s hard to tell. I also think this is AI i cant explain why though, it just looks AI to me.
The entire “art style” reeks of ai. Just look at those faces. It looks more like a filter than a drawing.
I think the uncanny look is caused by the generator being mostly trained on photos or 3d cgi instead of actual drawings.
The way the officers hold the people makes no sense. The hands are not bad overall but if you can do five pretty well then you wouldn’t suck at making the little kid’s hand- it’s wonky, if it were a person drawing you’d see a similar level of wonkiness on all hands not just that one. Also you would try to make things a bit more dramatic, if a person has this level of skill they probably can figure out gaze directions and enhance facial expressions a bit more to add to it.
I wonder what the prompts were. It reminds me of Shaun Tan
I approve the message! The images are just reinforcement so I don’t really care if it’s AI. Not everyone can draw.
And what about the theft and abuse of creators that was required to create the AI in the first place? If we’re just going to steal shit, we don’t even need the AI, we can just steal shit from each other.
Human artists train using other artists work. Every avenue of human endeavour is based on what came before.
My own default style shares similarities with Barbara Canepa and Rumikp Takahashi. Why? Because, as a teen, I used to copy their stuff, trying to “unlock” the parts of it that I like.
If I was to directly copy an image, and say it was my own, then that crosses over into stealing. But that’s not what has happened here. And unless you get very specific with the prompts, it’s not likely to happen.
Okay, but did you literally illegally download the material in the first place? Did you violate licenses that you obtained the material under? Do you intentionally imitate specific artists so that casual observers can’t tell the difference and then fill the entire space with more shitty art using that style than any human artist could ever product, such that the original artist who developed it no longer has control over that style and has their future income devastated?
It’s not the same thing and you’d have to be willfully ignorant by this point to think that it is. All the major LLMs are “fruit of the poisonous tree.” They were trained using stolen data that they were not entitled to use for those purposes. The artists SHOULD HAVE BEEN PAID for their work training the AI.
nobody fucking cares. find a different thread to bitch about your made up problem. GO AWAY.
You can’t make me.
i can. it would just take some work.
I don’t agree with your take, sorry.
To say that an artist should have exclusive control over a style is dangerous.
Every time there is a big upheaval in an industry, it affects people’s jobs in that sector. Henry Ford’s investments in automation, put a lot of small car manufacturers in a tricky position. It also led to cars being affordable for most American households.
I’m not unsympathetic, in fact I’m more than a little aware that AI will be taking over my sector, the software development jobs, within a couple of years (and unlike art, I can’t see any market for “hand-crafted” code!).
But, the genie can’t be put back in the bottle. There’s no possible positive that comes from “calling out” AI art whenever you see it. It doesn’t help artists - if anything we’ve seen artists having to go out of their way proving their work isn’t AI.
What if I told you that I trained my brain on copyrighted materials that I pirated from the Internet? I make games and I have for sure downloaded games I didn’t pay for and played them. I know I have used some of the mechanics from those games on my own. Am I a bad person?
What if I told you that you’re not software? What an absurd comparison.
I would download a car. Sorry bro.
just STFU dude. nobody cares
Well, this image isn’t being used commercially so no one is making money off of it. I think that seems like a fair use of AI. Similar to how people make memes with images they stole from the Internet
can we please keep this AI shit out of here
Seriously, I’m here to look at artists’ work, not computer generated slop
Don’t get upset about AI. It was just following orders.
Saw this on a thread a while back:
The funny and sad thing is I think the original panel was showing American imperialism against historical Nazi facism (soldier attire), so it was very easily repurposed for the next ethnostate of Israel with the Nazi flag being redundant against the very obvious German soldier.
I see everyone has addressed the AI slop part of it, but it also doesn’t need the labels at the bottom. Let’s not treat the readers like they’re stupid.
If readers weren’t stupid maybe we wouldn’t be in this situation to begin with
AI generated?
Yep, all the faces are disjointed from each other and seem generated separately. No soul at all
the funny thing is that that’s the icon for adobe illustrator.
inkscape ftw
Lol I had no idea. Works both ways tbh
This is why I custom order all my memes direct from people on Fiverr
Oh damn. Well let me live in your house rent free. Yall pay for my food and anything I want then
What? Who’s trying you love in your house?
Maybe we wouldn’t have millions of people trying to live here if we hadn’t systematically destabilized half of latin america. We’re reaping what we’ve sown.
Fuck off with this fascist apologia.
Yeah go cry those words to your mommy, loser.
