*please note i deeply value and respect the vegan movement. i am just critical of how humorously it precipitates in online spaces, particularly this one. :)

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    TIL there’s vegan slurs. Don’t think I’ve ever been called something specific for being pro-meat. And I do loooooove my meat-based diet, let me assure you. No vegan slur would ever change that.

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      I’ve never interpreted that as an attempt at an insult, what word do you think is more fitting?

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        Omnivore, maybe? 🤷

        But yeah, pretending that eating meat is an ism IS an insult when coming from an evangelical vegan who considers it morally reprehensible lol

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    first time i heard someone using the term carnists it was being used as an insult and i was so confused because “wait why are vegans mad at carnivals now?”

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      I once had a fling with a vegan girl who referred to me as a “carnie”, intending it to be a jab at me. Having worked in a carnival for several years I found it hilarious she tried to make it an insult.

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    it is especially frustrating coming from a person who would die if they just stopped eating meat (eating disorder), I have mentioned this online and gotten responses from these people saying that they think it would be better for me to starve to death than to eat meat. it makes me depressed to know that some people want me dead

    I am glad that people are able to go vegan but some of you go into a moralistic argument and act like everyone who eats meat is glad about it and gets off on torturing animals

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      I’m a vegan, and fuck those people.

      I’ve got a medical condition that meant I had to take it fairly slowly just it be sure my body wasn’t going to literally fall apart when I went vegan, luckily I’m doing well (in a few ways I’m actually much better off now, though I’m still scared of falling apart). Medical conditions are valid as hell for not going vegan, I wasn’t aware of how an eating disorder could prevent it but I’ve read a fair bit online now, so thankyou for sharing.

      One of the scariest moments of my life was when my friends and I were publically assaulted by a pair of very large vegan men who didn’t like that we weren’t vegan. I was vego at the time but sure as hell wasn’t going to tell them, people who act like that are an absolute disgrace and make me ashamed to be vegan. Veganism to me comes from a deep sense of empathy, if you can’t feel empathy for other people then you’re not a vegan as far as I’m concerned.

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        If you’re hurting anyone, outside of combat sports or self defense, you’re not vegan. Those men might have been plant based but certainly not vegan

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          This has to be the stupidest take on the term “plant based” I’ve ever heard. I swear, “plant based” is just the “No true Scotsman” of vegans… anything that a non-meat-consumer does that a vegan doesn’t like makes them plant based instead of vegan. It’s so asinine and intellectually dishonest.

          Vegan people can be assholes too. Assholes will inevitably exist in any demographic that gets sufficiently large. I have known people who identify as vegans who insist that it’s preferable for humans to die than for non-human animals to die.

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            It’s not that complicated… Plant based = diet Veganism = philosophy

            Can’t really blame you for not knowing as they do get used interchangeably in the media.

            But you can’t just self identify as a person that follows a certain philosophy without actually following it. Vegans avoid cruelty towards animals and humans are animals.

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    I guess I don’t see the posts you’re referencing.

    Also, I think you meant participates, not precipitates.

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    Some things are so horrible and evil that it’s difficult to ridicule them, it requires a lot of creativity.

    Carnism isn’t one, carnism is an academic term, and carnist just means “a proponent of carnism” (it may be in some dictionaries already).

    https://www.carnismdebunked.com/

    Deal with it, meatflakes.

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      “Debunked?” It’s delicious, and that’s a subjective truth for me that cannot be debated - there’s nothing to debunk.

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        You should try human flesh. There are some countries that humanely kill unadoptable children, their flesh is subjectively delicious, it’s an undebatable truth! And if that’s not to your liking, Elwood Dog Farm humanely slaughters all numbers of dogs for your gourmet pleasures. Debunk that, vegans!

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          I have no problem with eating non-pet dogs, but there is real danger that comes from cannibalism. Don’t be stupid.

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            No more danger than eating puffer fish. Avoid the brain and spinal tissue, you avoid the risk of a prison disease. Besides, if we’re talking about dangers to our health, veganism is quantifiably healthier and correlated with longevity.

            And what do you mean “non-pet” dogs? Why wouldn’t you want to eat your pets? They live a much happier life before their slaughter, and it’s easier to manage the texture of their meat when they’re live-in stock.

            You haven’t thought this through much, huh?

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              veganism is quantifiably healthier and correlated with longevity.

              in some respects for some people. some of the studies (china study, for instance) have been debunked, though.

              you aren’t a dietician. even if you are (i admit, i was guessing), you aren’t my dietician, so maybe you shouldn’t be telling other people what a healthy diet would be for them.

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    I get vegancirclejerk posts in my feed and in most cases I am not sure if these posts are serious or just making fun of vegans. Most of the time it looks like troll posts. It’s more like a meat-hate cult.

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    I personally love cheesebreather, bloodmouth, and milk-drinker.

    Bonus points to milk-drinker because that’s not even a term made by vegans to call people coward babies. Play Skyrim and you’ll hear it all over the place!

    Carnist doesn’t count because it’s not technically an insult. It’s just a name for someone that practices carnism. Carnism IS terrible, but the purpose of the word is no different than Christian to Christianity.

    It’s hilarious that carnists get so butthurt about being called what they are though so I enjoy that part.

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      I personally love cheesebreather, bloodmouth, and milk-drinker.

      see i just couldn’t keep a straight face if you tried to say those while making eye contact 😭😭

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      Carnist seems to imply that they eat ONLY meat though. They’re not carnivores, they’re omnivores. It’s on the same level as using the terms pro-abortion and pro-life to describe the two sides of that debate. This kind of name calling of an out group is not too far removed from all the wacky names flat-earthers give to all the rest of us just living here on the globe not being wack-a-doos.

      Using the term butthurt is some straight up 90s era homophobia too. Nice.

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        You misunderstand.

        I get the fun and appeal of being a little mean, but you’re punching down innit? It feels weird to call out a group that’s not hurting anyone.

        • spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
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          i call out groups all the time when they do funny stuff

          marvel fans aren’t hurting anyone either but i often make fun of them :) i wouldn’t personally call that punching down but if you must, feel free i guess

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    So reactionary, you going to start complaining about loud blue haired feminists next? Apparently it is too much to acknowledge those who can’t advocate for themselves, but perfectly fine to participate in their genocide.

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      i feel like u didn’t read the whole post so here is a picture of a bagel while we wait for you to get caught up :)

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    Not a vegan, but you’re an asshole. People recognize a genuine problem with an industry that contributes massively to climate change, antibiotic resistance, and environmental destruction, and you’re mocking them? That’s some South Park level shittyness/stupidity. Maybe one day you’ll realize vegans have a point, but you probably won’t own up to how much harm your attitude caused.

    GTFO. You aren’t welcome here.

    Edit: thank you for editing the post. It really wasn’t clear that it was meant to mock a shitty subset of vegans when you first posted it rather than the entire movement. I 100% agree that those people can be snobbish dicks.

    • spujb@lemmy.cafeOP
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      when on earth did i say i wasn’t vegan or disagreed with them :) i simply think the words are objectively very funny

      edit: but taking your criticism to heart, ive just now edited the meme to be less acerbic and to better reflect my intention. thank you for sharing your thoughts. i don’t mean to be hurtful, just shining a light on the silly stuff in the world.