Post had nothing to do with murder or violence. It is clear who reddit serves.
This reminded me that I’m still watching some subs through still existing mirrors like undelete so I don’t give reddit views, and I noticed that a big 21k upvoted post on subredditdrama about /r/conservative starting to panic over whether trump even knows what he’s doing was deleted. All I can imagine for why it was deleted was intervention because of this rule, I couldn’t find a mod post on it, it might have been admin intervention.
Yeah we know, wtf am I supposed to do about it?
You probably do more than you think. They control the flow of information because they know how dangerous an informed public would be to their interest (in keeping us in chains). If everyone understood how bad they’re getting fucked, there wouldn’t be anything left to do, the people would burn it all down.
lol Americans can’t even be bothered to get off the couch to get out and vote to save their country, they ain’t burning nothing down
Do you think that is by design or by choice? Do you have any idea the amount of propaganda the average American receives? Be a man and blame the actual bad actors: the transnational uber wealthy. Though, that might mean you’d be required to do something yourself, other than the super-useful finger pointing you’re currently doing.
How is bitching about the problem On Lemmy any more of a solution? You’re literally doing nothing. I’m a Canadian, im doing my job by avoiding your products and boycotting anything American. You’re just yelling at Lemmy users
Yes, that’s my whole life, the one part you can see. Damn, you got me.
Apparently, just showing an image of the guy they are pinning the crime on is violence in and of itself. 🤷🏻♂️
He’s just too hot. You must be 18+ to view this sexy, sexy picture 🔞🔞🔞🥵🥵🥵
It’s NSFW in 2 different ways
deposing ceos is arguably sfw
Posting an image of a person who is known to everyone as the (suspected) murderer of a capitalist, whom he explicitly murdered for his capitalistic practices, and referring to a distinct but similar set of calitalistic practices is not “a non-violent Luigi post”. It’s not directly calling for violence, sure. But the connection is pretty clear. If the Right did something like that, we’d probably call it a ((likely intentionally) poorly disguised) dog whistle.
I’m not saying the post is evil and ban-worthy. Which side an action is done for matters. You might say, the ends justify the means. But get your terminology right, and shed the centrists’ illusions. And non-violence is an illusion. This is the propaganda theatre of a class war. And Reddit is fighting for the enemy.
Thats the point. They are banning class warfare; not violence.
This is really one of the biggest problem we have. They influence elections, they influence public opinion, they spin the narrative as they want.
But have you throught about the parasite being uncomfortable because peasants meme Luigi tho?
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This is perfect for a non violent easter post 🤩
Patron saint of justice.
I’ve been calling him Patron Saint Luigi lately lol
I fuckin hate that people use Luigi’s picture for causes he wasn’t (allegedly) explicitly championing even when I agree with them.
Quit making Luigi Mangione your mascot.
Why?
I think it’s shitty to put words in people’s mouths.
Why do you think that’s a good thing to do?
Im not saying it is or isn’t, but was curious in your reasoning. One reason it might be justifiable is if it could help bring about some change.
This isn’t the first time I’ve been downvoted for expressing that opinion and have yet to see a reason for why everyone seems to be OK with putting words in his mouth. It’s especially dumb on this meme because he’s not “once again” asking anything. He literally never brought it up once.
He’s a human being, not a mascot.
Mate, calm down. It’s a reference to the Bernie Sanders meme:
https://imgflip.com/memegenerator/224015000/Bernie-Sanders-Once-Again-Asking
Thats why this post was interesting. It had nothing to do with luigi or violence but they removed it anyways.
Stfu
You should feel bad for being this awful at trolling
They want to establish the narrative of Luigi-the-terrorist, but human beings know who is the reasonable one.
human beings know who is the reasonable one
I remember people saying that about Julian Assange and Edward Snowden twenty years ago. It didn’t take long for popular opinion to turn on them, though. Just call the whistleblowers allies of the opposition party or props of an evil foreign government. Americans hate that. And the American public soured on them rapidly, as a result.
I don’t know where you live, but you can say that about your own context. What happened to Assange has no name, shame on the USA government! Fortunately, not all populations are equally easy-handled.
That’s why we need to stop relying on idols and figureheads. I dont even necessarily think we need to organize, but to act as individuals capable of operating independently from central leadership. Most of us have the same goal, after all. It’s just most of us are still too comfortable or afraid to do anything, and that’s because we invested too much in leaders or orgs that we watch get assassinated and destroyed. But they can’t get all of us, especially if we act independently, and soon.
I literally rage quit reddit over this. Hence why am on Lemmy now. Hopefully we can draw more users from Reddit over here. Esp with the boycott of all things US.
Welcome! I migrated when the old Reddit apps stopped working, and the grass is indeed greener on this side, except for the non-English communities.
you would probably banned eventually anyways, since luigi is enough to have you banned. i was banned a few weeks before this for some other stupid reason. apparently people were getting banned anyway after temp ban is lifted.
It’s a photo of a guy who shot a CEO and a text that basically says “there’s more”.
While I agree with the message, it’s still a call to voilence.
your mom is a call to violence
Saying that the post has nothing to do with violence is pretty dishonest. Why do you think that the person who made the meme used Luigi Mangione instead of Bernie Sanders?
Allegedly
Look at this bootlicker playing a voice of reason…
Lol
I hope the regime treats u well dear enough for this sober take
Whose boot am I licking, and how? Could you be more specific?
You are shilling regime position while pleading to be the reasonable one… I stated this above.
Which part don’t you understand?
I’m stating facts, not shilling anything. I don’t use Reddit and don’t care what they do or do not delete. I’m not advocating for or against Reddit’s position on this meme.
I’m pointing out that OP is either lying or ignorant if they think that this meme isn’t implying violence. That’s it.
You got a lot to learn about how the world works. But if you do understand and you still coming in here with this brain dead take. This is a boot licker behavior and I hope they treat you well enough to shill against your class interest.
I’m so confused. Presumably, you approve of what Luigi Mangione did - please correct me if I’m assuming wrong there. But proceeding assuming I’m right about that, isn’t violence the point?
Based on this I am going to assume you have not experienced enough of the life to understand what this is really about.
So I guess less of a bootlicker and more of a useful idiot then.
Unless you are part of the club… Then you are just shilling your class interest
Hmm
A person can be an idol/totem/icon of resistance. The post does not incite violence, nor does it display any violence. It does not break any rules.
Listen, I don’t think the post should have been removed, but I don’t think what you said is necessarily true. While obviously an extreme to make my point, if there was a non-violent quote from Hitler, nobody would bat an eye when it gets quickly removed. Of course Luigi isn’t the same as Hitler, but a case can be made that at a certain point the persons appearance is enough to make a statement, regardless of the quote in the post.
Of course, it’s different because nearly everyone on this platform supports the movement that Luigi represented (myself included).
You are comparing guerilla partisan resistance (from evil) with something that’s being resisted against (evil) and saying they both represent violence.
I think that’s not correct.
Some people that turn to violence in order to protect the weak are (treated as) heros.
Either way the post didn’t explicitly or implicitly encourage violence and should’ve stayed up.
Why do you think that the person who made the meme used Luigi Mangione instead of Bernie Sanders?
Because Luigi everything has been getting censored by establishment media?
If you think that using Luigi Mangione in a post about the wealthy and elite doesn’t imply violence against those people, then we are simply going to have to disagree and I frankly think you are being intellectually dishonest.
Counterpoint: why did police and media parade Luigi around as if he were guilty? What if Luigi is completely unrelated to Thompson’s death? Police departments want us to think he’s guilty and violent, his case is a lot more about legal injustice than violence right now. But hell if they want us to think about violence, we’ll do it but in a way that doesn’t empower corporate elites.
It’s also about freedom of speech. I’m on Lemmy due to Reddit bans. Did I imply I was going to be violent? No. Just talking about Luigi will get you banned, Reddit appears to be complying in advance to political pressure. Why else would they care?
I am not defending Reddit. I don’t even use it. I don’t really understand how anything you said was a counterpoint, they are different topics. Regardless of if Luigi Mangione did or did not do it, or if it was or was not justified, is entirely irrelevant to what using him in a meme right now explicitly about the wealthy elite is implying.
The post talks about social media being owned by elites. It’s implying rampant censorship by social media, like Reddit, and also a twist on his story to make him look guilty without due process. I don’t know where you got the implication of violence from, you didn’t explain it yourself.
It does make me feel violently angry! But not because of Luigi, because of the billionaire’s evil actions towards us all.
Why did the meme creator take a well known Bernie Sanders meme, someone who is already fairly well regarded for standing up for the working class, and alter it to show Luigi Mangione instead?
Name the first person that comes to mind when you think of mega social media and news desperately skewing the story to alter due process by contaminating any random jury. Hint, it’s not Bernie Sanders.
I don’t think the image of Luigi is only about violence. It’s also a recognition of people’s pain at the hands of the ultra rich corporate elite. He symbolizes sticking it to the man, not just blind proletariat mob violence.
Many of us enjoyed the national unity that came from recognizing universal suffering at the hands of the US medical industry.
When did I say blind proletariat mob violence? I said violence. You threw those three extra words on there. He symbolizes sticking it to the man… By way of violence.
Who’s being intellectually dishonest again??
You implied proletariat mob violence. See what I did there?
No, I genuinely don’t. I don’t think you are taking this conversation very seriously so I’ll say good day to you.
You’re really good at projecting.
Like it or not, the man is a symbol for being fed up with being abused, killed, and sickened for profit. That sentiment transcends violence, which btw hasn’t been proven yet.
I agree. At most send an advisory message reminding the poster of rules and not to post worse. AT MOST. And I say that as someone who condemns the CEO murder and I don’t agree with Luigi being glorified in any way.
It made you post a comment though, would you have paid as much attention if it were yet another Bernie meme?
For the record, I’m just playing Devil’s advocate above. I agree that using Luigi Mangione in political memes inherently carries the connotation of violence.
I actually commented more because of OP’s insanely disingenuous take on the content. But, I don’t understand what that has anything to do with my statement though. I didn’t assert or deny that Luigi Mangione drives engagement. You might as well have replied to me with “llamas are pretty cute though”.
lol in France we got the same but it’s basically just one guy who owns all the media.
What other murderers are your heroes folks?
Oh, did he actually do it?
Because last I checked, he’s a suspect and there’s no guilty verdict.
So if anything, this is just a innocent until proven guilty guy.
Then why are you all making him a hero if he didn’t do anything?
Who is we? The only person who is throwing butthurt comments is you
Who is “you all”?
Also it doesn’t matter if he did it or not from perspective of the class struggle and corporate oppression angle
The state chosen him to be the face of the people and they done fucked up because it back fired spectacularly.
So to answer your question… “We” didn’t make him anything the state presented Luigi as the alleged adjuster who was already was enjoying huge support prior to Luigi being set up with the conviction starter pack.
The state tried smearing him via fake news and socials… That failed too.
And the state has yet to even covict him of the alleged crime.
So you tell me what “we” actually did here beyond asking a few questions about what actually happened and why woulf somebody do this to such a leader lim brian Thompson.
What the fawk are you talking about? He’s a frustrated loser who came to a decision that murder would solve his poor back problems and maybe change the world LOL. I wonder if prisons have chiropractors. I hope the hell not.
Agree. This shit is unhinged.
If the billionaires aren’t getting mad at this, they are getting something good from it. Most likely in the form of extreme tax cuts (and the moral type of fraud). They’d have less capital but more for themselves.
If “Section 230” is repealed by the Maga-Idiots any US social media plattfrom will become liable for what the user’s posts, they will have to do MUCH cleanup.
Any threat. Any wrongful accusation, and harm done to reputation will be OWNED not by the user in question… but the company providing the plattform, as if they are a newspaper and all users are staff writers.
Imagine writing “Dodge only make shitty cars that break all the time” on X, and X is now held accountable by Stellantis for damaging their reputation.
I hope they do it. Plattforms that make billions from free work of the users, should own the liabilities.
it would also un-shield any site from user generated content, making lemmy instance operators liable. all comment boxes on any site would disappear; the dead internet theory would become a reality overnight within the us
Well than don’t operate within the US.
The Maga aßholes want to be hateful on the internet without getting moderated. Without moderation it’s okay that the plattform becomes the publisher and is liable. I’d not be sad for meta/reddit/Twitter to just implode on legal fees… owning the fake news they allow to be distributed…while making money off advertisers…
I was for this when it passed originally but now seeing what these companies have done with it in the intervening years, I think maybe I was giving them too much benefit of the doubt
