• SaharaMaleikuhm@feddit.org
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    1 month ago

    Haha, my crappy ass old HP printer still takes refills. No printer company shall ever see another cent of mine 😈

  • B-TR3E@feddit.org
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    OTOH, I’ve been using a HP laser printer for years and the last time I spent 40€ for toner was almost two years ago. Just stay away from shitty inksquirters or even shittier “multi-function-devices”. They are customer-rippoff devices without real use, nothing else. Honestly, if you think you need to print colorful, fuzzy pictures that will fade at the first streak of sunlight you probably had it coming.

  • wowwoweowza@lemmy.world
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    1 month ago

    So… when there is some controversy over an article in Lemmy it gets the strike though? How did this evolve?

    • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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      If you read the article:

      We are aware of the recent false claims suggesting that a Brother firmware update may have restricted the use of third-party ink cartridges. Please be assured that Brother firmware updates do not block the use of third-party ink in our machines.

      So there’s no reason to leave an inflammatory and likely wrong title unchanged or otherwise without notation. The title is completely readable. I’m all for wrong information being flagged, and a strikethrough is a fine method of doing so.

      • bss03@infosec.pub
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        I see editability as generally an improvement, especially since the older versions are still visible with a couple of clicks. Reddit titles are not editable. Tweets used to be uneditable; toots are.

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          The original rationale for not having editing, at least on Reddit and Twitter, was concerns that someone could get a viral post, and then edit it to spam.

          That’s not an impossible thing with Lemmy, though we’re not big enough for it to be worth spamming to, for the most part.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        We don’t know if it’s wrong though, we just have a statement from the company claiming it is. Now it’s on the community to prove it.

        It’s potentially wrong. I guess we’ll see in the coming weeks as people try to prove it one way or another.

        That said, the allegation that old firmware isn’t accessible is easy to verify and very troubling for Brother if true (what are they hiding?).

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          There is no official report of Brother doing what it’s accused of. Only a couple people having issues with a few cartridges, no analysis of whether the flaw was in the third party cartridge or an actual firmware issue, but we should get out the pitchforks and torches and leave a completely unproven statement up? I completely disagree. There’s too much BS passed off as objective truth as it is.

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            One or two reports could be chalked up to noise. Rossmann provided much more than that. I’m not saying he’s right, I’m just saying there’s sufficient evidence that I’m not just going to accept “nope, we don’t do that.”

            We certainly need more evidence, and hopefully Rossmann’s video reaches enough people to get it, one way or another. He has demonstrated admitting when he is wrong, and he has also demonstrated doing the research.

            I doubt this is the last we hear about this, and I sincerely hope Brother is redeemed.

            • RememberTheApollo_@lemmy.world
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              I am in no way suggesting we shouldn’t be wary and not investigate. Crappy 3rd party engineering could be an issue. Placing a declarative title with no qualification as truth (because nobody reads the article) despite the quote from the corporation itself denying it in the article shouldn’t be done. Like I said, too much of that happening these days.

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                Crappy 3rd party engineering could be an issue.

                Sure. However, I’ve seen allegations that swapping chips worked for one person and failed for another. That needs to be investigated.

                too much of that happening these days

                Agreed. Only claim what you have the receipts for. Clickbait blows.

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    Buy an ecotank printer, they’re more expensive initially but that’s because they actually make you pay for the printer

    Ecotank’s use liquid ink that you fill in tanks instead of cartridges

    There’s no way they can check the ink on ecotank printers

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    These motherfuckers are actively making tech as a whole less secure by destroying any trust the public may have had in firmware updates.

    Urgent security fixes are gonna go unpatched on a lot of shit because consumers are seeing more and more firmware or software updates actively making things WORSE.

    • SacralPlexus@lemmy.world
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      Definitely true. I’ve been putting off an upgrade of my NAS because they have randomly decided to completely remove the video streaming software that came with it when I bought it. So infuriating.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        Time to DIY.

        I use a regular Linux system and set stuff up manually, but there are options that do more out of the box if you don’t know how (and don’t want to learn) to DIY the software.

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          I’m working on that. I have little previous experience with Linux and self hosting but I’m slowly making progress. I now have switched my gaming PC over to Linux almost full time. I know I can switch to Jellyfin for video streaming but it’s been a lower priority to figure out compared with other services I’m trying to understand how to self host.

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      Urgent security fixes are gonna go unpatched

      I don’t understand why a printer would ever need an “urgent security fix”. Or a software update for that matter.

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        … Because products can contain security exploits, and if not patched could leave homes and businesses vulnerable.

        This shouldn’t need to be explained, but here we are.

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          The fun part is the security exploits often come from things like DRM ink cartridges that allows an attack to come from the goddamn cartridge!

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          Depends on whether you absolutely need your printers connected to the internet or not.

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        Any networked device can be used to gain access to the rest of the network (kind of).

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    If Brother starts playing that game, they will lose. Why bother buying their considerably more expensive printers over those of HP if they are going to be just as bad in the third party ink department?

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    This shit happened to me recently. Installed firmware update and immediately my 3rd party toner stops working. Try to find old firmware to roll back to and couldn’t locate it anywhere. Found some for other models via Google drive links in Reddit posts, but nothing for my printer.

    I replaced the toner with new 3rd party toner which worked. And now I’ll never install another firmware update on the printer and should probably block it from the internet.

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      Even with a backup, there are chance they put a “security feature” to prevent downgrade.

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    Fuck I just got rid of my 2008 BW laser brother and bought a new one that hasn’t arrived. Thanks for the warning, at least I will be able to set my firewall before I even connect it to my network

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    I’m actually looking for a good multifunctional printer. Our Samsung is dying. It was an LED printer and we only changed toner 1 time in 15 years.

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    Going to be honest, didn’t realize my Brother laser printer got firmware updates, lol.

    In 7 years I’ve replaced the toner cartridge once, given that the stater cartridge isn’t very full I imagine it’ll be awhile before I have to replace it again, at least.