• ryven@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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      I don’t understand how this is related to the Streisand Effect. The Streisand Effect is when you try to suppress unflattering info about yourself, and in the process you call attention to it, so now everyone knows. But we didn’t learn about this through Jeep trying to suppress the info, we just learned about it from people who saw the ads.

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        That is the photo Barbara Streisand attempted to have removed from the internet, the effeft gets its name from this event and photo.

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            12 days ago

            Welcome to lemmy comments. Someone else incorrectly mentioned the Streisand effect so this guy decided to be cheeky and post just the photo.

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      What’s really funny is that the only thing I even know about Barbara Streisand is that picture.

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    A friend of mine bought a Jeep last year and it looked cool so we were thinking if this would be something for us as a next car.

    But sadly I’m allergic to advertisement, so I guess a Jeep is out of question until they rethink it.

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      I don’t recommend anyone buy a Jeep, not because of the ads but because they’re built like shit. Quality has been in free fall for decades while prices have skyrocketed. Death wobble issues (Wranglers), motor reliability out the window, rust, more rust, just not worth it.

      I owned a 94 Cherokee and I loved it, and even though that 4.0L straight 6 had problems at least it would still run with bad piston rings, mysterious battery drain and holes in my radiator. The new ones just can’t compete.

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      You don’t need to be allergic to advertisement to want avoid shit like this. The fucking audacity of companies these days. There is no place they won’t try to shove these damn things to the detriment of every product, service, and personal moment. If they could put screens under your eyelids you’d have to watch drug ads one blink at a time and your dreams would be sponsored by AT&T.

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        Yeah there’s a huge difference between advertisements in free media vs advertisements in a car you almost certainly had to get a loan to purchase

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          They’ll justify stuff like that by telling you they sold it to you at a discount price because the ads offset your costs. That’s what Amazon did with the cheap tablet I bought for my wife.

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      They have parts that you have to replace right away so you don’t get stuck too. There are definite drawbacks.

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      Custom flashes are probably more likely given the system integration of the head unit. UBlock for your car. How crazy is that?

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      Not a chance. The new “infotainment” clusters integrate necessary features like climate control to prevent aftermarket replacements in most vehicles. I honestly don’t know if any manufacturers even use the single and double DIN standards anymore.

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        Mazda is supposedly one of the last major automakers that has mostly physical controls in their cars. Definitely at the top of my list for any future car purchases.

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          Part of me is annoyed that I didn’t get a Mazda 3 when I got my car back in 2023, I got a 2021 Seat Leon FR PHEV Hatchback.

          I like the Leon, but it has so much touch controls.

          The worst is the controls for the fog lights, heated rear window and defrost.

          They are all located on a small touch panel to the right of the steering wheel, it is also angled down making it harder to see.

          So if I am driving and the windows start to fog up I need to take my eyes off the road and aim my finger to touch the correct button without touching any other controls as I might be blinding other drivers.

          It is a terrible design.

          The AC and battery management screens are all under different submenus on the infotainment screen.

          The rest of the car is great though, and so far i have not seen any ads on the screen.

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          I highly recommend Mazda if this is something you care about. I had a 2016 Mazda 3, and now I have a 2022 Mazda 3. The infotainment is all controlled though a physical knob and buttons, the climate control is all physical buttons. I am not sure if the screen is even a touch screen… I don’t think it is, but I have never attempted to touch it since I was so used to using the physical knob system in my old 2016. The physical buttons are why I picked my current 3 turbo up over the WRX I also tested. The WRX and the other Subaru’s I checked out all annoyed me with forcing use of the touch screen snd buttons to change the climate settings. I hope Mazda never changes that aspect of their cars. Not sure if the other models also do this, but I don’t see why they would.

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            My 2018 Chev Trax may be the perfect level of tech for my tastes. Climate stuff is all physical, but it has a nice screen that you can hook a phone to through a USB or Bluetooth to pass maps/audio/calls through it with the audio and calls being controllable by buttons on the wheel.

            The only actual car operation buttons on the screen are things you wouldn’t do when driving anyhow like decide if it locks automatically or setting the default volume.

            Most obnoxious thing it does is keep reminding me that the sat radio subscription is expired when I start it.

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            Also, the climate control is all on smaller screen that just displays info with the climate system. The infotainment has nothing to do with the climate controls.

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          My 2023 Mazda has a touch screen but you never actually have to touch it. In fact, they put it far enough away that it is difficult to touch while driving and disable the touch when the car is moving. There are knobs and buttons in-between the front seats that control it. Also none of the important stuff is controlled through the infotainment system, it is just settings, satnav, and radio (or Android Auto/carplay). Not having to interact with a touch surface while driving is one of my favorite features of my car, and there are a lot of other things that I love about it too.

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          Mazda has been flying under the radar doing things right for a long time, in my experience.

          I’m currently driving a 2012 Mazda3 that we bought new 13 years ago. It has been completely reliable while our 2013 Honda has needed some repairs. It is fuel efficient (40mg hwy), and it is still fun to drive. In the automatic transmission’s manual-shift mode the shift lever goes in the correct direction for driving dynamics (pull back to upshift, forward to downshift). In the normal automatic drive mode it seems to use an accelerometer to downshift when braking downhill.

          My very first car was a mazda MX-6 from the late 80s with a 5-speed manual transmission. I bought it with 180,000 miles as a cheap junk “first car” and drove it for another 40,000 miles over the next few years. It needed some repairs, of course, but it was fun to drive and did a great job getting me around the state while I was in the late college to early independent adult years.

          Now I’m middle aged and my drive to work is just a few miles via quiet twisty country road. I think I’m gonna get an MX-5 Miata next. 6-speed and soft top. That sounds nice.

          For years I thought a fast dual motor EV sport sedan would be my next vehicle (whatever the non-Tesla model 3 performance equivalent would be) but a roadster would probably make it more fun to get up and leave the house. Plus so much cheaper and, given the small amount of miles I drive, probably more environmentally friendly. It would definitely generate a lot less microplastic pollution form the weight difference alone.

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        The Chinese won’t be stopped by that. CANBUS integration controlled by a poorly designed app coming to your (2-3 versions old) Android head unit!

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        Despite no longer sticking to the DIN standard, and climate controls being integrated into the infotainment system, there still exists a big market for aftermarket infotaiment systems, they just have to be engineered for the specific make of car you have. But they can be bought for most cars that have infotaiment systems that are now outdated

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          I haven’t replaced a head unit in years, but I’m not surprised the proprietary systems require custom components for replacement. I can’t count the amount of head units I’ve replaced with my own ‘custom’ wire harness to save the $15 it cost for the Metra adapter. Lol

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    Lol! Imagine in 5pm traffic!..

    Broom! Broom!

    Stop!

    Hey! You driving! The university of Phoenix has a degree just for you!

    Go!

    Stop!

    And wells Fargo can help! Our loans are only 8% Apr!

    Go!

    Stop!

    Pah pah pah pah…I’m loving it! At McDonalds we brought back the stegosaur burger! PST! Its actually crock!

    Go!..

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    There’s exactly zero chance I’d buy a car that showed me ads.

    There was already zero chance I’d buy a Stellantis vehicle anyway after buying a brand new 1999 Dodge Durango that started rusting out sitting on our garage.

    And while they did the bare minimum to remove the rust, but they didnt stand behind it. There was no way we were keeping it or buying anything else from them.

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      Dodge was owned by DaimlerChrysler in 99. I only know that because my family was in the car business and weren’t happy about that merger

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        Yep, all connected /same garbage IMHO I was a big DSM (Diamond Star Motors) fan back in the mid/late 90’s had a couple AWD Talons.

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    Stop 👏 Buying 👏 New 👏 Shit 👏

    I could run a whole community on how to recycle, reuse, repurpose. Why the hell are people buying new cars?!

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      Yup. Keeping old cars going on fossil fuels is so much better than millions of new cars being built every year, and in order for them to be built they ship them around the world to seperate facilities. I could go on and on

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    Ok, I’ll bite.

    Did OP just time travel 25 years and post something from Slashdot?

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      I was just thinking the slashdot used to be a massive source of traffic across the internet.

      And now it’s a sink. How times change.

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    I was looking for a car a few months ago and was looking at newer models, used, but mostly less than a decade old. Then I started reading about all the tracking and such.

    I gave in to my inner teenager and bought a 2001 Porsche 911.

    The entertainment center can connect via Bluetooth but there’s no Android Auto, no navigation. It has Sirius XM but I never had a subscription to it and never will.

    I might add a backup camera but that’s it. My phone is more than enough tracking, even with as much of it shut off as possible.

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      This is the way.

      Add in a magnetic charger phone mount and you’re golden in my opinion.

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        A previous owner mounted one where the cigarette lighter was. I’m going to replace it soon since it doesn’t really fit - I can’t charge my phone in the holder.

        Maybe I’ll finally learn FreeCAD and print my own.

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          If you do want to learn a guy on YouTube by the name of mangojelly has been extremely inciteful for me

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          Yeah, but other than a hybrid, fuel efficiency plateaued at some point before bells and whistles started being added to a surveillance system.

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        Thanks! The next car on the list was a 2004 Honda Civic Si hatchback manual.

        I honestly would have been happy with either car. Having so much fun with the Porsche though.

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    Stellantis, the parent company of Jeep, Dodge, Chrysler, and Ram,

    Not just a Jeep thing. at least not for long.

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      Holy cow. They’ve done the impossible - they’ve found a way to make a Dodge into a shittier vehicle. I am awestruck.

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      Now hold on there, I’d let them do the ads and the vehicle tracking bs if the car was nice and it was free.

      If I’m buying the car, there’s no fucking way.