Fuck em all.
Meanwhile all the TikTok users seem to be moving to a copycat called Red Note
That just looks objectively worse imo
The fact that it’s hit #1 on the US Apple app store is wild to me.
Five eyes agents must be pulling their hair out.
Yeah that’s kind of why people are doing it.
Five eyes agents must be pulling their hair out.
Haha get fucked. Love to see it
We should build a Great Firewall and make China pay for it. – Mitt Romney, probably
The New Republic, Mitt Romney Reveals Twisted Reason Why Congress Moved to Ban TikTok
Some wonder why there was such overwhelming support for us to shut down potentially TikTok or other entities of that nature. If you look at the postings on TikTok and the number of mentions of Palestinians relative to other social media sites, it’s overwhelmingly so among TikTok broadcasts. So I’d note that’s of real interest, and the President will get the chance to make action in that regard.
This exactly this. It was never about the Chinese spying on American citizens
Rooting against TikTok for breaching privacy is fine and all but if we wanna talk about social media that needs to be banned then let’s talk about Meta and Google. It’s painfully obvious that the only reason TikTok came under fire is that it was a threat to American social media companies and they couldn’t compete so instead they regulate.
I really don’t care about what TT does with my data, and I’ve been called a “privacy shizo” by people at work. I’ll mail every bit of my data to Xi Jinping personally before I ever install any apps made by Meta.
What’s a shizo?
In other words, broad regulation on the industry instead of cherry picking TikTok for China reasons.
This article from 2024 gives a pretty good rundown as to why using this reasoning to ban Tiktok will set a very bad precedent:
If the govt cared about your data privacy, they would create data collection regulations that they could then use to ban tiktok if/when they violate them.
They did. They banned sending US Citizen data to adversarial nations including China, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Russia, and/or Venezuela. It was all packaged into one vote and now that’s the law, for everyone.
They banned sending US Citizen data to adversarial nations
create data collection regulations
Americans simply cannot grasp the difference between Not Collecting Data To Begin With and China Bad
You say that as if China doesn’t use it’s own citizens data extensively for nefarious purposes.
Lawmakers and the White House have justified the crackdown on TikTok by claiming the app’s link to Beijing makes it a national security threat. But supporters of a ban have not offered direct evidence of the Chinese government ever attempting to obtain data from the company, nor any proof that authorities there have ever influenced content on the platform used by 170 million Americans.
I’m pretty sure that the Chinese government has direct unfiltered access to byte dance Chinese servers, there’s no need to “attempt” to obtain data, they don’t need a judge or an injunction, they can just do it. It’s a different system from the American or European ones.
The big issue is the US trying to ban Tiktok explicity for “national security” without showing the public a shred of evidence. What do you call it when China blocks access to an American app because of “national security”?
Lmao
ByteDance publicly admitted they stored the user data in Beijing in 2023.
The userdata includes location service, facial analysis, usage data, contacts, photo library, messages, and sound recordings in addition to the things people actually uploaded.
Please read the article.
We should really ban Xitter as well as the operator is most likely a Russian bot
You know Americans can be dogshit without being foreign right?
Nope. If it’s bad, it’s because of outside agitation and enemy propaganda.
America is exceptional, it can’t do anything wrong except stop being American
Elon got a ton of money from the Saudis to buy Xitter. Wouldn’t surprise me to learn they were pushing the authoritarian centric content.
It was infested by Russian bots even before it was bought by a Russian bot
Meh USA president about to be Russian bot too
I HATE Chinese spyware used to push Chinese propaganda. I only like AMERICAN spyware used to push AMERICAN propaganda!!! 🇺🇸🇺🇸🦅
MURICA!!!
It’s possible to dislike both. We are on Lemmy after all.
The problem is aren’t both getting banned/regulated, making the reasoning behind the tiktok ban extremely suspect
Well, no need to put down Lemmy users about it.
Yes. I only want FOSS and federated spyware social media.
Love to watch the contortionism .world does to justify the yellow peril
Just like American social media companies
Not meaning this in defense of Tiktok, but…
If Tiktok doesn’t push this kind of social divisiveness in their own country, it’s because they regulated it in their home country. They’re simply exploiting the fact that the US has basically zero regulations in place, so they’re allowed to promote socially destructive content. Why wouldn’t they? It’s not like what they’re doing is materially different than what Xitter, Meta/Facebook, Reddit, and so on do. Honestly, it’s already happening at Bluesky because we have no rules and rely almost exclusively on site moderators enforcing social decorum rules. If Tiktok in China is “better” it’s because the government there forces it to be, like maybe we ought to consider doing maybe.
The US government just doesn’t like it when it’s not their guys propagandizing and dividing the populace. They want to enjoy the fruits of that, not a foreign actor. The mask is truly off, they really do think their own poverty-striken citizens are the enemy. The government speaks out of both sides of its mouth about backdoors in encryption, with one part of the FBI saying you need to use encrypted services to safely communicate, and another part saying we need backdoors in encryption even though Salt Typhoon literally saw hackers exploit US telecom backdoors that which the hackers still persist in exploiting.
The phrase “get rekt Imao” mocks TikTok, adding a humorous and dismissive tone.
It’s weird seeing chat gpt analyses something you wrote on someone else’s device, even if it’s something as trivial as a meme like this
idgaf what the jeep tea has to say about anything ever, tbh.
You’re missing out. A lot of cool stuff you can do. I recently had it make a grocery list with prices and recipes that matched my budget and specific tastes for my family. When it was all said and done I was actually under budget by $50 and got a lot of stuff I wouldn’t normally get.
You shouldn’t pay for ChatGPT though. Or use it.
If you can’t self host, Use Deepseek, Qwen Chat, Gemini, Kobold Horde, literally anything but OpenAI. Sam Altman is a straight up con artist.
It’s free…
“Hmmm well if you think tiktok should be banned for spying then do you think american social media platforms should be banned for doing the same thing?”
Yes. They should. That is not the argument you think it is.
I think that retort is just there to point out that other social media platforms definitely will not be banned at any point, calling to question the legitimacy of the claim that the ban is because of invasive spy practices. Hypocrisy is loud.
They will be if they send US Citizens’ data to China, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Russia, and/or Venezuela. Because that’s how the law which bans TikTok was written.
Yes, tiktok wad absolutely the worst, but it speaks very loudly that the US doesn’t hold other companies to the same standard
Actually, when they banned TikTok they also made it illegal for any country to send American data to any adversarial country including China, Russia, Iran, North Korea, Cuba, and Venezuela.
In fact, TikTok could just sell to an American Owner at this very moment and continue operating. They didn’t sell, though. Because they don’t operate for profit. They operate for gain as a hostile foreign military asset.
They didn’t sell, though. Because they don’t operate for profit. They operate for gain as a hostile foreign military asset.
I’ll take “the conclusion doesn’t follow from the premises at all” for 500 Alex
…so it’s fine if an American company does it?
Sorry, typo it was supposed to say “any company”
Thats the entire point, FaceBook and Google are held to the same exact standard.
China already blocks those services, btw.
They hold every social media company to the same equal stands. Facebook, twitter, google, bluesky, and tiktok are all equally forbidden from operating while chinese.
This is in no way targeted, like not even a little bit… honest
China, Cuba, Iran, North Korea, Russia, and Venezuela
Cuban social media is completely out of control. We should invade immediately
It is illegal to send US Citizens data there.
It is genuinely one of the most enjoyable things I could imagine to watch the American empire fall in real time, as its imperial core citizens flounder and flop around in impotent rage.
That’s the thing about reality. It has a leftist bias and it doesn’t give a shit about liberals raging at their own inability to comprehend the contradictions of their existence.
It’s January 20th, introducing Trump Tok!
You made my laugh for the first time today. But you might not be far off the mark. It seems pertinent to repeat the old Chinese curse - “May you live in interesting times”. Shit’s become far too interesting for my taste.
It will be all right little buddy.
Wow. What prompted such condescension from my reply?
You spelled condolences improperly lol.
Don’t be a fucking dick. Are you a child in age or just emotionally?
Uh are you yelling into the mirror? I just sent every in the universe is gonna be alright. You agree?
Oh yeah this planet ain’t even a pixel in the universe. Universe gonna be fine. Hell even earth will be fine once we’ve caused the extinction of all life, including us.
