Skill issue
People with anxiety are valid and deserve to have their problems taken seriously
Yes, but this situation isn’t necessarily anxiety. It can just be social awkwardness, not wanting to have to say hi, etc.
Social awkwardness can be a part of anxiety.
Did I say otherwise? I only said anxiety is not the only possible cause
Your comment, it’s probably not, it’s probably something else, really doesn’t lend itself to allowing it.
That’s not what they said though
They said
… this situation isn’t necessarily anxiety
“Probably not [thing]”.
That’s equivalent to “isn’t necessarily [thing]”.
That’s simply not true. I agree that it seems to be social anxiety depicted but you misunderstand that phrase. That’s basically just saying it could be something else, nothing to do with likelihood.
Ah this is a classic language misunderstanding. “Isn’t necessarily” means “possibly not [thing]” or “doesn’t have to be” or “may or may not be” but doesn’t have much bearing on probabilities.
That’s how people usually use that term in English anyway.
EDIT sorry didn’t mean to dogpile. I just saw that a couple other people already replied.
No? First means less-than-50% probability of thing, second means less-than-100% probability of thing
You aren’t necessarily good at modal statements.
Please don’t misquote me, I said nothing of the sort.
*Isn’t necessarily means >0% chance *Probably means >50% chance
They are not the same
of course it’s a comic with fake characters with no objective truth to be found…
but the artist is a vocal mental health advocate
…it’s 100% about anxiety 😅
They are and they do, but this example is extreme. Having been on both sides of this, I’d say no one should have to live their life in fear of every little interaction. It’s exhausting, and you will never succeed in getting every person to leave you alone anyway. But this doesn’t have to be “the way it is.” You can actually change and make your life easier. Sometimes it takes help and a long time, but I believe most people can do it if they really want to.
Do you think we should treat people with crippling anxiety by telling them that their anxiety is crippling any time they post on the internet about how crippling their anxiety is?
But where does the comic state or imply that living like this is healthy? The character doesn’t seem happy.
I don’t even have anxiety and I think this is relatable. It’s not even necessarily fear, but maybe not having the bandwidth to be social in that moment.
Spoons, etc
They make me anxious…
I do this for every threat of human interaction ever. I wish I could fix that.
I’m human, and you just interacted with me.
EDIT: This community has apparently about 11,000 active users. You just interacted with them and it didn’t seem to be an issue.
You’re not a threat and you don’t set my nervous system into meltdown. It’s the level of abstraction that I need to interact at all.
I’m human
I don’t believe this. I’m pretty sure this computer I’m using is generating random comments as I’m scrolling through here.
You don’t fix it. You just work on it till you can handle more because you want to or you have to.
We aren’t so much as broken as just different, as we all are. We all just need to do our parts to work to be part of society rather than perfect it ourselves first.
You can’t be serious
They are and it’s apparently celebrated here in Lemmy to be the worst kind of person without working on it.
Judging by the downvotes, I’d say you’re right. Reminds me of my ex who would make every excuse in the book just to avoid having to make a phone call. It’s very tiring to deal with.
When did we as a society reach a new low that involves shitting on people with anxiety?
When it became a fad to brag about it and not to work on it and interact socially like our species has done for thousands of years.
It’s fine to not be social all the time and to have anxiety. This. And all this conversation in here about how normal it is to despise your neighbors enough to hide inside just because they are outside… Is not that. And it’s normalizing a fear and lack of interaction that doesn’t help people. It just makes it easier to feel right about your specific quirk.
No one’s bragging about anything. We’re just trying to have a good laugh and relate to some problems we encounter in our lives. Nobody explicitly told you that we aren’t trying to solve this problem. I don’t know why you would make the assumption that we weren’t.
It just seems like you want to shit on people going through something for the fun of it. Do better.
You speak on behalf of others that have stated the opposite and you speak to my motives incorrectly.
I don’t wish for people to normalize this as the end of the symptoms cause it creates a world where people who are suffering as well don’t have others to look to for having to go through the struggle of bettering oneself. People are in here normalizing the act of the anxiety and not the stress of rising above it.
I’m responding to the conversation as it is happening in here. You are responding to how you wish it was because it’s easier to blame the squeaky wheel.
This is why people moved en masse to suburbs. You go to your car and drive away, rarely even see a neighbor. I’ve spoken to a neighbor once in the last year and it was because we were both shoveling snow (it was yesterday). We shoveled for an hour in silence but we kept getting closer to the street (she’s across the street). At some point we were only about 20 feet from each other and the silence was awkward. At least it was just a 30 second convo.
Wtf? I live in the suburbs and we talk regularly to the neighbours. Is this some weird US-specific dystopia?
Community is hard to come by here. It’s bad.
Yes
I grew up in a suburb and that was the only time I HAVE regularly felt like this. I still wince when I think of the loud Greek lady across the street who shouted my name whenever I tried to leave the house. Egads.
Ahh i cant relate to this one
People who say Lemmy is not a social media site might just be right.
Because apparently the people here do not want to be social they just want the media.Finally
Asocial media
discussion =/= socializing
I think lemmy and reddit are super different from social media. you can use some of their tools to socialize but most if not all people don’t use their real names, most don’t even have a proper profile, most people don’t follow each other or try to get followers, etc. there’s just no “relationship” aspect that is distinct to social media sites.
if anything lemmy feels a little more social just because of the small size, and how you start to recognize the same bunch of people in the comments. but I’d expect that to go away if it ever gets really big one day.
My wife is like this. She claims its because the dog is to crazy around them, but its not the dog. I know her. Its funny because when caught with the neighbors she is cordial and will talk and laugh but she just can’t get passed her predispositions. I on the other hand will run out if I hear the neighbors as I like to play with their dogs.
Regular Scandinavian life.
I need to move to Scandinavia.
Expensive, cold, and dark. Otherwise sounds fantastic.
Leave, wave “hi” at them and continue on.
Your the guy I’m hiding from.
Ew
The entire point is that seemingly easy thing just isn’t for them. I know because that used to be me at my worst points.
It can be learned however. Now I’m probably the guy they want to avoid because I will smile and say hi.
comments did not pass the vibe check oh mein gyatt
Ong wtf. I was expecting more “oh haha that’s totally me” or some form of solidarity, but nope
no cap, it’s really skibidi
That’s why I don’t leave the house. 😎
Every fucking time I want to leave some other neighbour comes out first and I have to wait for them to clear out before I can leave.
And they are so slow! Clear the public area swiftly you inconsiderate buffoons!
So you guys hate eachother?
It’s just normal social anxiety.
To actively avoid interacting with anyone outside of your specific social circle??? Doesn’t seem like that would be “normal”.
I suppose it depends on your definition of normal. But I specifically didn’t say it was normal for everyone, I said it was normal social anxiety. Which only affects around 10% of people. Still a pretty large number, that’s about the same as being left-handed. And yet you likely know more people that are left handed, because the odds of meeting someone with social anxiety are, of course, much lower even though just as many exist.
That would be “normal social anxiety symptoms” or even “normal for social anxiety” where normal applies to the symptom discussed. Here your use of normal supplements the “social anxiety” which I do understand is more prevalent than people would really acknowledge but isn’t exactly normal.
Even more so for zero contact, no coping mechanism social anxiety that has you saying rude things about others existing in shared physical space.Is “normal social anxiety symptoms” really meaningfully different than "“normal social anxiety”? Isn’t that implied?
It is not implied. In fact I doubt most people would consider social anxiety to be even a clinical term and it is often used a catch all for minor anxiety towards social interactions that can be difficult.
Following up someone saying they hide inside when neighbors are around and that they think they are buffoons for not moving at the speed you want because of a lack of self control with “well that’s just normal social anxiety” validates and normalizes behavior that is neither valid nor productive.
My grandmother was an English teacher and she would tell you it’s not ok to leave things implicit as you leave the comprehension to the reader when that is the purpose of you as the speaker.
well, you suffer from social anxiety, than yes, it’s normal
Undiagnosed anxiety sufferers who think it’s normal to be terrified of human interaction downvoting you
Wow you hate people more than I do. Just say that.
The old people always want to talk and I’m too nice to cut them off. There is no other choice but to avoid them at all costs.
Hm, I’m kind of in between. I do this fairly often, not wanting to go out right when someone else is there. But I don’t know why, since as far as I can tell it doesn’t make me feel anxious to run into someone like in the cartoon.
It doesn’t bother me at all to cross paths with someone and I’m fine with saying Hi or just nodding to acknowledge their presence. Rarely does anyone actually try to start a conversation or anything. If they do say anything it’s probably just a one-liner and move on. And it’s easy to tell if someone doesn’t want to nod or say Hi as you pass because they stare at the ground the whole time, and I’m fine with that too, but I don’t do that.
But now I’m wondering, so why do I tend to wait until they’re gone? Is it really social anxiety? I don’t think so? I’m a loner but I have no problem or anxiety talking to people either. 🤔
I’m usually rushing out somewhere when I leave the house and a few of my neighbors are talkers, which I normally don’t mind at all. But sometimes it makes more sense to just wait inside for a minute rather than get stuck in a 5 minute conversation.
Not me. I even talk to people in the bathroom.
I need this explained. Is this a bathroom?
I think it’s her front door and her neighbors are talking in the hall outside her apartment. (The keys doesn’t really make sense with her wanting to ‘go’)
(The keys doesn’t really make sense with her wanting to ‘go’)
I was thinking it could be a gas station bathroom.
In Europe you often have doors that lock with keys from inside as well. And no knob/autolock.
The good part is that there is no “I forgot my keys and locked myself out” because either you couldn’t leave without your keys or you left your door unlocked.
The bad part is when you are late to your engagement because you can’t just leave the apartment unlocked/you are locked in and your room mate Julia misplaced her keys and borrowed yours to go out for an hour and she’s an hour late already. Fuck you, Julia. Also fire safety.
Some houses have a deadbolt that has a lock cylinder on both sides because it’s more resistant to breakins. My house is like this and I need a key to leave unless I want to jump out of a window
Have they not invented fire in your country yet?
Yes. Their violent neighbor broke in earlier and is currently using their bathroom, much to the embarrassment of the protagonist
