You can tell us what you’d like us to call you. That’s referred to as your “Name”. You can leave the rest of the language alone. You don’t get to change your adverbs, participles, adjectives, predicates, etc.
Bold take, here on Lemmy. Let’s see how it goes for them
You don’t get to change your adverbs, participles, adjectives, predicates, etc.
Says who? You? Are you the arbiter of language?
I’ll call you Mrs. I’ll call you Mr. But the rest, nuh uh.
Really? Not even Ms.? Because I imagine a lot of younger women would feel pretty insulted by you calling them Mrs.
Oh you. Of course that would include Ms. :D
Why “of course?” Again, are you the arbiter of language?
I simply follow the rules, I don’t attempt to change them and force everyone else to follow mine.
“Of course” because it should be obvious. You were taught english too.
I would of course include Dr. as well, as that’s part of someone’s name. But as I’m slightly on the spectrum, when people start trying to change my language based on their whims, it throws me.
I’m not going to start adding Xe and Xir and all sorts of rules to my ruleset because someone decided a name was too bland for them.
What rules? Where do these rules come from? Who codified them? Can you please show me where they are laid out?
It’s against the law! Please turn yourself in to the nearest police precinct.
Being respectful of everyone’s person would hurt my lil brain tryin to remember all those words.
Culture War aside, that’s not how language works. You have as much understanding to the history of language as you have basic dignity to other human beings.
Looks like you’re getting a lot of people riled up here.
I’m curious about why you find it so objectionable for someone to choose their pronouns but are fine with name changes.
Because the rules of the English language are the same for everybody. You don’t just get to go around telling people they have to use a different ruleset for you or when they are around you. It’s pretentious as fuck to expect people to cater their use of the language like that. That’s exactly what names are for.
Because the rules of the English language are the same for everybody. You don’t just get to go around telling people they have to use a different ruleset for you or when they are around you. It’s pretentious as fuck to expect people to cater their use of the language like that. That’s exactly what names are for.
Certainly, the rules of the English language exist for a reason. For me, that’s to communicate and convey information. If you unilaterally decide to change the language, then your words can fail to communicate what you intend. Although, I don’t think that applies here. Correct me if you think otherwise.
If anything, it seems like the “new” pronoun rules you see today are people trying to enforce the standard English rules. He/she communicates someone’s gender presentation. If you refer to “him” between someone who looks masculine versus feminine, then you’ll assume that the “him” refers to the one that’s masculine-presenting. That’s how English usually works, and it works this way to allow us more efficient communication. Of course, this doesn’t work 100% of the time because there are many axes and a gradient on each of these axes between what we consider masculine or feminine. What would the English language dictate when you’re near one extreme on some axes and the other extreme on others? I don’t believe we have any well defined and useful rules for this besides the preference of the person it’s referring to. Again, do correct me if I get anything wrong.
Leave language alone motherfuckers not speaking in Old English. smh
Believe it or not, languages change over time. They grow and adapt to fit their context.
But… you can change all of those things, adverbs, participles, adjectives, predicates, you can change all of them by changing your behaviour and characteristics… You can’t even get your own stupid arguments to be correct.
Oh look how smart you are by pointing out that YOU can change those things by acting differently; and the other thing I’m referring to is you forcing OTHERS to act differently. If you’re a he, or a she, I’m absolutely fully in support. I am not calling you Xe, or Xir and changing other parts of my language to accommodate you being so insecure that a NAME isn’t good enough for you.
nuh uh.
Newfangled terminology
Thoughts on prescribing use of the OG word only?
You don’t get to change your adverbs, participles, adjectives, predicates, etc.
True, not in repressive societies. And look, I have limits, I’ll be hard pressed to refer to someone as squirrelkinlifragilisticexpialidocious every time. But you’d made a reasonable accommodation in polite company I figure?
My and Me are pronouns you stupid fucking possum
Got damn possum I ain’t got no tree FIDDY
Opossum, not possum.
I’m not a possum
Did you just assume my species?
Here come the furies.
Furries are great fucking people.
Helpful, accepting and won’t hate you because you pooped your pants that one time.
But what do you talk about with a furry other than their Gentoo install?
May I interest you in a 4-hour lecture on the figs, kumquats, cherimoyas and jungle cacti I grow in my living room, followed by a 2-hour tirade on certain web frameworks?
Currently, perhaps CrowdStrike.
I wanted to link to this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYWom6vHy80 , but unfortunately the OP removed it.
However, all is not lost. Archive.org is again being a Chad by even archiving YouTube videos, albeit at a lower quality: https://web.archive.org/web/20240719212149/https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vYWom6vHy80Since the heavy archived YouTube website takes ages to load, here’s a link to archived video file directly
But the second time you do it, then they’re merciless 😢
and won’t hate you because you pooped your pants that one time.
But what about the other time?
Also, please do not observe me. Or make any sudden moves in my vicinity. I am feral and have anxiety
This is like the chicken game, isn’t it?
AceFuzzLord can’t wait for the use of all pronouns to be banned and English papers won’t be legally allowed to use basic words such as “I”, “Me”, “You”, etcetera. That’ll teach the libs!
/s
what, which, who, whom, whose, this, that, these, and those, everybody, either, none, and something,
Amongothers. It’s ironic conservatives know so little grammar that they can’t even add “personal” to before “pronouns” to make it at least slightly more accurate, but no.
do not refer to me
…And that’s what we programmers call a memory leak!
My native language (Türkish) does not have grammatical gender. Gender in grammar is just silly and useless.
average O enjoyer
No. Language needs as many possible structures and rules as well as millions of exceptions and oddities so it is really hard to learn.
Based and ottoman-pilled
That’s part of why I just use They in English for everyone. Less having to learn people’s whatever; I don’t care. You’re cis male he? Don’t care, you’re a they now. More room left in brain. We can fix this shit right now.
You’re cis male he? Don’t care, you’re a they now.
Now you’re back to not respecting peoples pronouns
I don’t have enough bandwidth to remember everyone’s names, let alone their pronouns. This is the compromise.
We do have a distinction between singular ‘they’ and plural ‘they’. It’s helpful.
I can’t agree more
I need to know which inanimate objects I can fuck without it being gay, constantinoplelu.
pretty sure it’s all gay.
my/me
hmmm…
pronouns are none, do not refer
None ate the cabbages. None then went home full and happy.
I do not use pronouns, and I don’t think you or they should use them either.
I, you, they, them
Based
