If I want to see what craftsmanship went into the ice cream: Vanilla
If I don’t care (like I do usually):
Apple, Tempura, Black Thai Tea = Heavens
Good and real Vanilla = best
Bonus: the ice cream machine is broken and waiting for parts
This is the approximately the plot of a KND episode
God that show was good. I remember exactly what episode you’re referring to, and 5 is right about sprinkles
Also an episode Iron Fist… for some reason.
Black Scarf is a dummy. That’s gonna be the best vanilla you ever had. That, or the whole shops a gimmick
Gonna go ahead and say that if you have 2000 flavors you probably didn’t spend enough time optimizing each one for perfect flavor.
'I fear not the ice cream shop that has 2000 different flavors, but I fear the ice cream shop that has 2000 vanilla flavors"
The place is also hard to get to, must not get great ingredients often
But it’s vanilla. That’s like a 24-hour diner not knowing how to make eggs.
Yes, exactly. If the shop can’t make good vanilla, then they’re a gimmick shop.
VANILLA IS NOT PLAIN
VANILLA IS A COMPLEX FLAVOR
I WILL DIE ON THIS HILL
Yes vanilla is not plain. The plain flavour is Rabri. It’s just you don’t have rabri in the west that’s why you all think vanilla is plain.
Also rabri ice-cream >> vanilla ice-cream
Ice cream boneheads, the lot of you!
Ice cream is three basic ingredients: cream, sugar, salt.
Anything other than that cannot be considered “plain” ice cream!
Also, I make my own ice cream and I agree that cardamom is top-tier. Shockingly good with a few drops of brewed espresso as well!
Plain or not, vanilla is common. According to this comic, you will die when your body hits the bottom.
Which is fascinating because it used to be very rare until we figured out how to make a 100% equal replica chemically for cheap.
Still prefer real vanilla for cold things. There’s more flavors in it than just vanillin. Most of that gets destroyed at higher temps. So for baked goods, artificial vanilla is indistinguishable.
Vanilla (flavor) may be ubiquitous, but it’s not “plain” or boring. Certainly not if made right! That’s the false equivalency…
How well an ice cream shop does vanilla will be an indicator of how well they do the other 1999 flavors. Is it quality ice cream or a whole lot of chemicals to get your flavor?
Exactly this. Establish a baseline before trying the more exotic offerings.
Vanilla extract became expensive, many ice cream makers used less, end result vanilla is considered the bland flavor because there is never any vanilla in it.
It’s fucking milksugar.
Find a vanilla with actual vanilla in it and it’ll grow hair on your tits, sweetie.
Not plain, just basic. It’s in a lot of other flavors.
So is chocolate, yet no one complains about it.
“Vanilla”, for some reason, has come to mean “plain” in English. That is a specific linguistic quirk. It doesn’t exist in my native language, and not coincidentally no-one who I share this native language with would think to give me shit because my favorite ice cream flavor is vanilla, because it’d be just as nonsensical and out of the left field as making fun of someone for preferring chocolate flavor.
Same thing happened to salt. Things like potato chips flavoured with salt are considered plain.
Although salt has a flavor, it’s more so a flavor enhancer because of the positively charged properties of the sodium after dissociation. So, it’s pretty fair to call it plain given the myriad of options, and that potatoes are trash without it.
They’re trash without it because they are actually plain without it.
Meanwhile salt and vinegar are the best flavour combination and will burn a hole in your mouth because you ate too much.
Worth it tho.
I WILL STAND WITH YOU, BERATNA
VANILLA ICE CREAM IS BEST ICE CREAM
Vanilla is unironically the best flavor, chocolate based ones are not refreshing an fruit based ones taste like food dye no. 6.
Sounds like you just buy shitty ice cream
yea try fruit sorbets made from fruits that you like. you can even do it home. cut up some banana, freeze it, take it out and wait a couple minutes so it can be blended, blend it with some tahini and cinnamon. can repeat similar stuff with strawberries, seedless grapes etc.
Guess you never had good fruit flavoured ice cream then
Guess not, I don’t feel like playing flavour roulette every time I feel like having ice cream.
People are being kind of snotty but there’s a difference between the stuff in stores that is portrayed as ice cream but it’s actually not.
There are all kinds of “frozen desserts” and “iced treats” etc that use vegetable oils, emulsifiers and such to simulate the ice cream experience, and those tend to also use lower-grade flavorings.
Real ice cream is pretty expensive because it uses mostly real cream and tends to use much higher quality ingredients overall. In a real ice cream product, you’re more likely to get actual cocoa vs chocolate-y flavor. Red from actual fruit vs a food dye mixed into corn syrup.
Only if they use concentrate. Though ice shops using real fruits/ingredients are rare, they make the best ice.
That’s why Vanilla is a great litmus-test flavour
just to be the first to say it, vanilla is a complex flavour which makes incredible ice cream if done right.
the flavour you’re thinking of is “milk”.
Vanilla is the finest of the flavors.
Gotta see the show cause the you’ll know the vertigo is gonna grow cause it’s dangerous you’ll have to sign a waiver
How can I help it if I think you’re funny when you’re mad?
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But this just has the same problem. Margherita pizzas are also amazing if done right. There is a great Italian restaurant I go to where I rarely get anything but the Margherita because it’s so good. What you are think of is “plain cheese and tomato”.
i live in sweden, if a pizza place had less than a hundred different pizzas i’d be weirded out.
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honestly, if a restaurant has many different pizzas their base tends to be bland. i’m not sure the same applies for ice cream.
Even a simple sweet cream flavor is amazing on its own if they have a good process and they use good milk. There was once a local place where I tried that and loved it, and it’s something I’d love to try again…if not for how badly dairy just fucks me up. I love getting fancy with ingredients, but sometimes less is more.
Nah even just milk is a good flavour.
I’m rather fond of pistachio myself
I think it’s reasonable to go for a pretty standard flavor in that setting to have a reference point. I kind of do that with pizza, pepperoni the first time I try a new restaurant and if it’s good I’ll try other toppings the next time.
Quattro fromagi for me, see how well they do it and if they try to cheap out on the cheese.
I hate pepperoni, it is just too greasy.
Yes! That’s what I usually do as well. Unless there is some house specialty I’ve been recommended and I came for, I will try a “reference dish” to get a baseline.
As if vanilla is the same at any two craft ice cream shops
I’d say the measure of an ice cream shop should be their vanilla. No gimmicks. No cover ups. It’s the industry standard.
If your vanilla slaps, that’s all I need to know.
if you don’t like vanilla, that’s because you’ve never tried an actually good ice cream.
Did bandana kid do this against their will? Did they sacrifice everything to get their friend to this? Were they led to believe that friend was going to get something more complex up until this moment? Did they not care at all about the ice cream?
Why are they so invested on their friend getting something complex? Seems like bandana kid is judging their friend based on criteria that deeply personal, and is kind of a tool.
Of all 2000 flavors there can only be one king.
Haha when I want to try a new brand or location, I judge it by how good their vanilla is.
same, but chocolate
Thank you!