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    Thinking this is a racist statement is not about complexity, it’s just common sense to realize it’s not racist. If I talk about some white man I hired, and I said he sucked, that is also racism? What should we say then… I hired “a human” and it was bad, so had to let it go? So all information about the event is cleaned away? :)

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      If I talk about some white man I hired, and I said he sucked, that is also racism?

      It is if you specifically mentioned that he’s white, yes. The problem is that you’re openly stating your biases as being important to the story. However your biases are exactly that, biased. You don’t know if they’re relevant or not, but you feel it necessary to say anyway. That’s prime prejudice. You don’t know their education, history, family life, economic situation, or any number of other factors that could come in to play. But you assign importance and blame to the fact they’re Indian. Racist.

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        Yes it’s kind of important to assign importance to the Indian part, since that was what he was trying to describe.

        You should watch the movie “am I racist” that came out now in 2024. It makes fun of people like yourself though, but it could be fun to watch anyway to maybe see the other side of this. :)

        And you should be interested since you don’t have bias right?

        https://m.imdb.com/title/tt33034103/

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          But you skipped over 100 other qualities they shared and instantly focused on their race. The fact that you don’t even realize your bias is what makes is so pervasive. You don’t even realize you did it, and here you are arguing that you’re not responsible.

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            Yeah I don’t think it’s wrong to say Indian or talk about indians. It’s the same as talking about men, women, black, white, yellow… These are attributes we use in life and it’s accurate and correct to use those words to describe people and our experiences. They are just our own experiences.

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      Yes you should say that person you hired sucked or did not meet your expectations for the job.

      Not all information is cleared away, the information pertinent to the performance of the job remains, which should be the only information that matters when the topic of discussion is someone’s job performance.

      Unless, that is, you’ve met and tested the performance of every white guy available to you. Otherwise you’re painting people with the same brush. X type of people are Y is racist thinking.

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        This is where you are making a logical error in your thinking. You are saying “unless he tested the performance or every white guy available to me”. But he was not talking about all indian people. He doesn’t have to go out and do research to talk about his experience of an indian guy he hired, that is a bit silly, no?

        We are allowed to talk about our personal experiences in life. Thats my take on it anyway.

        In fact you can’t talk about anything otherwise. Because your opinion is not a scientific research paper and it was never supposed to be.

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          “Gross Incompetence of specifically Indian Immigrants

          He says:

          No offence… but they are just so stupid

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          I also lead a team offshore in India and work with many of them

          It’s not “just this one guy” - he’s painting ALL Indian immigrants (plural) based on his experience with this ONE guy, and the offshore team he has worked with.

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            He is talked about his team and his experiences, not all 1 billion Indians on the planet :)

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              Yes, in order to justify the point of view that ALL Indian immigrants are stupid.

              It’s in the title my guy.

              If I were to say I refuse to hire people who like Matt Walsh, because in my point of view they’re all dumbfucks, that’s discrimination. It’s why we have laws in the West against that sort of thing. It works both ways for identities and points of view you subscribe to.

              It’s just a more complex answer than “it’s just an opinion man.” That’s 1950s thinking - and yeah it was a simpler time because white men owned almost everything in the West and everyone else could go fuck themselves.

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                The title obviously applies to the Indians he worked with. You seriously think the man talks about every Indian on the planet?

                Let me ask you a question. If a girl makes a video about how men suck because she is disappointed, do you think she dated every man on the planet?