• ByteOnBikes@slrpnk.netOP
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      In my last job, my manager said something along the lines of, “Client X is a cheapskate. It’s not socially appropriate, but I know [stereotype] are all cheapskates.”

      I asked why is it a problem that they’re asking for the lowest price.

      Thats when someone said, “My wife is [stereotype] and she buys expensive things.”

      Of which, without even switching, went, “Yeah but she’s a woman. I mean [stereotype] men are cheapskates.” And everyone nodded in agreement.

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      Lol. We had Indians at my job and it was a disaster. How do you suggest anyone talks about this without being “racist”?

      If a few people have bad indian workers, it makes sense to talk about it. He didn’t say all Indians are bad workers. That would be racism. But speaking about his own experience is not racism.

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        So why is that you picked Indian as being the common attribute among them? Why didn’t you say “a few married workers were terrible”, or “workers with 3 kids”, or “people over 50”? Why did you instantly jump to them being Indian to be the single defining attribute?

        THAT is prime racism.

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            Right, but they were also under 6’ tall. Or were politically left-leaning. Or had dark hair. Or whatever other things they might share. Why didn’t you emphasize that? Did it even cross your mind that maybe the socio-economic background might have more influence on their work ethic than what country they happened to be born in?

            You didn’t even think twice about any of those factors and settled firmly on “Indian” as the single defining thing among them. That’s racism buried so deep you don’t even recognize it.

            I feel a bit bad for people like you. The first step in becoming a better person is recognizing your biases, accepting them, and trying to overcome them. You’re just in utter denial.

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              You are right about me not recognizing it or agreeing with it. You ask why I didn’t pick other attributes. Because I wanted to say Indian. Why should I pick something else that doesn’t describe the situation properly?

              You think I should have said “those guys who had dark hair and were left leaning” were bad at their job? Why, when I meant the Indian people in particular?

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        It’s about the way it’s phrased. If you imply that the cause of their incompetence is the fact that they are Indian, well yeah that’s racist.

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          I don’t agree, obviously. If I speak of my experiences in life, it’s not racist to mention that I had bad experiences with certain countries.

          But let me ask you a question. How should he have phrased it? He should have left out the Indian part completely? So no information about the Indian part is spread on social media? That would be an improvement?

          If so, I wonder what else we should leave out when we talk about people. Should we mention age, gender, hair color, length, weight? Or nothing at all.

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        I appreciate that someone gets it. I am the least racist person, I know plenty of useless Canadians too and have worked with useless Americans too