Their jokes about assigning gender to babies and to being transgender, dressing in drag, like all of it was a send-up.
Sure, they did punch down if you were a person who were in those groups, but the fact that it was large enough social event to be relevant enough to be a comedy skit on a television show or a movie seen by millions implies that there were some serious things going on back then that they could see and wanted to address.
What the hell was going on that put all of those things in their mind?
the sexual revolution took place in the 60s/70s, partly due to invention of the contraceptive pill, which became available to unmarried women in 1967. homosexuality was partially decriminalized in 1967. abortion was legalized. no fault divorce was introduced.
it was the biggest social movement of their lives, perhaps started by women joining the workforce for world war II.
To summarize: America is like 50 years behind culturally rhe rest of the civilized world. They already got the social issues we are currently dealing with sorted out
note the items i listed were for the UK. Americas stances on them are devolving.
It was ABSOLUTELY started by women joining the workforce due to WWII.
I like to make a joke how Hitler was the biggest driving force in the feminist movement. Not because I support Hitler, and not because I’m anti-feminist.
I do it because it amuses me so much to say a wild and absurd claim like that, where womens feminists movements happened because of Hitler, and then watch their faces when I explain in a calm voice, with logic and reason, that there is a legitimate explaination for how all of womens progressive movements happened because of the most evil man in modern history.
I make sure to carefully tiptoe around saying that HE was a feminist. He was not. I never claim that. But by making THE LISTENER frame it in their own mind that way, and then explaining facts and truths, their faces contort trying to find the flaw. It’s great.
Again, not pro-hitler, not anti-feminism. Just very much pro-trolling chaos.
To make your little prank more airtight you should say “driving force behind the feminist movement,” not “in the feminist movement,” because he was not in the feminist movement.
And it’s bullshit, woman’s suffrage, a global phenomenon started long before Hitler was born.
And it ignores all the women who worked during WW1.
Maybe instead of being “pro-trolling chaos” you be pro-reading a fucking book. The world doesn’t need any more dumbarses being edgy.
Pull the stick out? I love history and thought of what you said as well and those women ARE remembered, but for a fleeting forgettable moment in a lemmy forum, even I had a laugh.
This just proves the point.
While World War I is a valid alternative argument, the suffering of women has been a constant throughout history. Why didn’t no-fault divorce emerge after the enlightenment, or even around the year 1000? It was already a burden back then. The reason it exists today is because of World War II.
He said suffrage not women suffering. Lol Jesus. Look it up in an encyclopedia.
Haha, suffrage. Not suffering
Every gender suffers always.
Suffrage in this context literally means the right to vote.
That’s a very abrahamic religious centric view. No fault divorce existed in the latter Roman empire, and was in certain Norse communities and other “pagan”/heathen societies the world over.