This isn’t an argument about abortion or gender affirming care you nut, this is about fashion. It’s not about “women’s bodies.”
Plenty of women express “disappointment” with the fashion choices men make and it’s fine. What’s the difference?
edit: my biggest disappointment here is people who can’t separate themselves from a stranger’s opinion and have to fight about someone’s preference whom they will never see, meet or talk to. Like, it just sparks this massive insecurity in people because it reminds people that someone might reject them for their choices so the response tends to be lashing out and being unhinged. And you see this on every end of every ideological spectrum, it’s a very human thing that we need to get better about. You all need to learn to SIT with the fact that not everyone will like you, your fashion, your taste, etc. Social media and discord has made you all get way too adapted to a world where you can choose to surround yourselves with only people who accept you blindly, so that you’re losing touch with how to feel about and cope with those who don’t immediately validate everything about you.
It is about women’s bodies though, a piercing is a form of body modification.
And yeah, in a world where women’s bodies and attire weren’t policed to an extreme degree it might be the same. But it isn’t. It’s not that there’s some linguistic difference but rather that policing women’s bodies happens in millions of unique ways every day. It does happen in some ways to men too, body weight, height, body fat and hygiene those kinda things. Women are policed for those things too, in addition to a million other factors. And we suffer social consequences for those things in ways men do not. We suffer even if we do meet those expectations, because ownership over our bodies is still being taken.
It would still illicit a similar response of confusion from me if someone said they were “dissappointed so many men were getting nipple piercings”. What is the causal relationship between the speaker and the men in question? Why does the speaker feel entitled to those men’s bodies? It would still be weird and wrong to say that. I hear people making claims about women’s bodies literally every day though, and pretty uncommonly about men’s in the same way.
This isn’t an argument about abortion or gender affirming care you nut, this is about fashion. It’s not about “women’s bodies.”
Plenty of women express “disappointment” with the fashion choices men make and it’s fine. What’s the difference?
edit: my biggest disappointment here is people who can’t separate themselves from a stranger’s opinion and have to fight about someone’s preference whom they will never see, meet or talk to. Like, it just sparks this massive insecurity in people because it reminds people that someone might reject them for their choices so the response tends to be lashing out and being unhinged. And you see this on every end of every ideological spectrum, it’s a very human thing that we need to get better about. You all need to learn to SIT with the fact that not everyone will like you, your fashion, your taste, etc. Social media and discord has made you all get way too adapted to a world where you can choose to surround yourselves with only people who accept you blindly, so that you’re losing touch with how to feel about and cope with those who don’t immediately validate everything about you.
It is about women’s bodies though, a piercing is a form of body modification.
And yeah, in a world where women’s bodies and attire weren’t policed to an extreme degree it might be the same. But it isn’t. It’s not that there’s some linguistic difference but rather that policing women’s bodies happens in millions of unique ways every day. It does happen in some ways to men too, body weight, height, body fat and hygiene those kinda things. Women are policed for those things too, in addition to a million other factors. And we suffer social consequences for those things in ways men do not. We suffer even if we do meet those expectations, because ownership over our bodies is still being taken.
It would still illicit a similar response of confusion from me if someone said they were “dissappointed so many men were getting nipple piercings”. What is the causal relationship between the speaker and the men in question? Why does the speaker feel entitled to those men’s bodies? It would still be weird and wrong to say that. I hear people making claims about women’s bodies literally every day though, and pretty uncommonly about men’s in the same way.