I have literally hated elon before it was cool. I don’t intend to defend him but I also am of the mind it’s important to be educated on opinions, or at least I strive for that for my own.
I dont know the context of this quote but manufacturing, to me, sounds extremely plausible to me and maybe one of the few legitimate “skills” he actually has. Spacex and telsa is dealing a lot with manufacturing and the logistics of that. That is what I would presume his context was from this quote. Am I missing something?
Am I missing something?
I think you might be missing the little fact that, despite the existence of Tesla and SpaceX, Melon Husk does NOT know “more about manufacturing than anyone currently alive.”
Thank you, I realize now the criticism wasn’t that he was totally ignorant of manufacturing. More that he claimed to be The Smartesr I believe he is ignorant in engineering and often painted as a savant of that regardless, I had thought this was being painted in the same vein. My mistake
Elon musk might know a lot about manufacturing space ships and electric cars (edit: that’s a big might). But that’s not general knowledge of manufacturing, in fact out of a lot of manufacturing that’s very specific and highly technical manufacturing.
But beyond that, Elon is not and probably never has been the head of manufacturing at any of those companies, and he hasn’t worked a significant amount of time (probably not any time at all) in any of his factory floors. so it’s impossible to give him points for practical manufacturing skills.
And even if you could twist your brain around to give him that. There are people in charge of manufacturing larger companies with much more diverse portfolios. Let’s say something like Hitachi who has people who know manufacturing magic wands to mopeds to precision l scientific equipment.
Or how about those companies in China that make every knick-knack and consumer electronic on the planet.
Fuck, if you wanted to name American CEOs and give them credit for manufacturing everything they produce under their company Jeff Bezos owns Amazon and Blue Origin, the direct space ship manufacturing competitor to SpaceX.
Elon musk might know a lot about manufacturing space ships and electric cars (edit: that’s a big might).
Well he this about Cybertruck:
All parts for this vehicle, whether internal or from suppliers, need to be designed and built to sub 10 micron accuracy. That means all part dimensions need to be to the third decimal place in millimeters and tolerances need to be specified in single digit microns. If LEGO and soda cans, which are very low cost, can do this, so can we.
What’s fault tolerance?
Him saying he knows more about manufacturing than anyone alive today is less descriptive than me saying I know more about the internet than anyonet. I work in manufacturing and the space is massive. What field if manufacturering? Because in the tesla alone there are dozens of separate fields of industrial manufacturing and he isn’t even the preeminent expert in automotive manufacturing let alone any of the components in the car.
the creator of the cybertruck
I wouldn’t expect anything less of Phony Stark.
I’ve not heard that before, it’s very good.
I can’t claim origin for that, but I think it fits. Feel free to use :)
Hope it doesn’t sound arrogant when I say that I am the greatest man in the world.
And I am the most humble, if I might add!
Shame. Shame upon you!
Maybe manufacturing stock manipulations, nothing tangible.
I’d love to see his engineering drawings.
I needed to find the source to hear the tone of that statement for myself - it’s from an interview from 2022 (link is timestamped):
Loved the initial laughs
(Noting I’m not in a position to judge his claim, but that’s OK as plenty of other commenters are comfortable doing so)
Im pretty confortable saying that anyone that calls himself “the best THING currently alive” is an idiot
Heh, well they are certainly unafraid of being perceived as self-centered!
Better when others are the ones to hype someone up with a high superlative like this guy I found:
In an informal poll at a 1990 cosmology conference, Witten received the largest number of mentions as “the smartest living physicist”.
Oh Mr. Musk, why must you do the silly stuff… so many big, expensive distractions (to say the very least)…
The true stable genius. Such wow
I don’t know about genius, but he sure is a stable guessing from the amount of horseshit in him.
Elona channeling her inner Karen, good for her.
Mr. Musk could manufacture himself into a fine powder.
I work in manufacturing industry as a production planner. Although I am in a central position, from everything that happens on the factory floor to make a complete product, I know surprisingly little. There are so mind bogglingly many little detail in the process. That’s why there are so fucking many of us here.
From where I’m sitting, the higher you go on the management ladder more clueless people are about the actual manufacturing process. They don’t need to know to do their job. They just need to listen when somebody who knows tells them the abbreviated version when necessary.
Elon does not appear to be a listener.
He’s just a pompous narcissist or possibly a full blown psycho. Not sure what his tallent is.
Its many reasons the saturn V can never be rebuilt. We know the plans and specs, but all the details of the manufacturering were all held by the people doing the work. Each one was unique.
The more proficient and knowledgeable in a topic you are you usually tend to see how much you don’t know yet.
Rarely someone who is actually good is going to claim to know the most in a topic.
His main talent is “already having lots of money”.
When I was a kid my parents wouldn’t let me make my own pinewood derby car, even though I had done one already without issue the previous year. My dad then proceeded to put a 1/2" drill bit through his hand while doing it for me. I always found that kind of funny.
“See son, this is what can happen if you’re too inexperienced.”
and yet even at that age I new not to put my fingies in the path of the sharp things.
Did… did he actually say this? I knew this guy was full of it, but that’s a whole other level.
Yep. Just watch any of Thunderfoot’s musk videos and you’ll see that clip featured at least once.
What’s your evidence that he doesn’t know it? All these claims that he knows nothing, but I never see any proof or evidence.
Like, yeah, he has a team, because nothing gets done with just one person. That is not evidence for him not knowing how things work.
My proof is that actually that my pet cat knows more about manufacturing than he does, therefore he doesn’t know the most. In fact, my cat knows literally everything possible to know about manufacturing. It’s amazing. And if you don’t believe me, then you need to show your evidence that it isn’t true. Also, my cat doesn’t routinely give misinformation about the capabilities of the products made by their companies.
Also, my cat doesn’t routinely give misinformation about the capabilities of the products made by their companies.
💀💀💀
How do you know the amount he knows? Your cats knowledge, unfortunately, does not shine light on the matter.
My evidence are the videos and articles where people who work with him say he is heavily involved. But you made he claim he doesn’t know it. I never see evidence he doesn’t.
I’ve read articles that said he was heavily involved too. They did not give the impression that he was helping.
Wooosh
I got the point you were trying to make, it just not a good one
“I” was trying to make?
double whoosh!
Go troll in your toilet.
Opinions that differ from yours aren’t trolling.
Let’s examine why your comment was interpreted as a troll statement.
Message you responded to was asking if the captions actually matched what was said by this individual. The second bit notes the individual is known to be “full of it” which generally means “speaking nonsense, lying, or exaggerating”.
Last I heard, musk has regularly exaggerated in his statements. And I believe has been known to lie on occasion.
So, you have an honest question asking to find the source of the clip and your immediate response is, where is your proof he doesn’t know more than anyone else on the planet when it comes to manufacturing.
Either you woefully misinterpreted the comment or you didn’t read it at all or the simplest answer, you’re a troll.
I think most people can believe that he knows something about manufacturing, but almost everyone doubts that he “knows more than anyone currently alive on this planet”. Those are quite different things.
I think he probably does. I haven’t seen evidence otherwise
your mom has probably sucked more dicks than anyone else alive. I know this because I haven’t seen any evidence otherwise.
you, sir, are quite the dingdong.
I didn’t come online and claim my mom didn’t. If I did, then I’d be putting up proof.
You: lol, Elon stupid.
Me: oh, I haven’t seen anything to make me say that, why do you say that?
You: because he is
Me: do you have any proof?
You: lol, proof? I don’t need proof, and how dare you ask me for proof, you prove to me he doesn’t!
…that’s not how this works, lol
ok so she has sucked more dicks than anyone. glad we can agree on something.
So anyway, how do I completely block Lemmy.ml 🤔 🤷♂️
I would say the fact that he isn’t a P.E. is enough for me.
If he was some mastermind engineer like he claims, he could easily pass the FE without even needing to study.
Everyone else in the world needs to prove their credentials, why doesn’t he?
Everyone else in the world doesn’t need to prove their credentials, there are plenty of people who know what’s up without credentials. He has a Degree in physics and has self-taught himself many things. Some people are just good at learning things and he’s one of them.
Yes people have to prove themselves, what the fuck are you talking about about? You can’t just engineer a skyscraper because you say you are really good at it. The FE exists for a reason.
This stupid motherfucker didn’t know about some shit you’d think he actually WOULD be an expert on - EV charging legislation.
I guess he’s been busy sucking Trump’s cock lately.
The trim coming off of the Cybertruck while driving down the highway or the steering wheel coming off of his cars would hint that he doesn’t know what he’s talking about.
Musk is the one making the claims. It’s his job to prove his own statements.
Wait, if he’s only a talking head and doesn’t help or know anything then why is the steering wheel coming off his fault? Wouldn’t that be the fault of the engineers or manufacturing techs who work on it?
Because if he was truly such a genious he would know it’s not right and fix it himself, or in general know how to have higher quality assurances.
Man they really need to fix the education system
I agree, the claims are wild
no I mean you need to learn about burden of proof
Your guys are the ones accusing him of not knowing things. Doesn’t the burden of proof fall on you?
that’s… not how it works. if you’re going to make an outlandish claim that you know more about something than ANYONE ELSE IN THE WHOLE WORLD then the burden of proof is on you to support that claim.
obviously the guy knows a lot. but “more than anyone else” is a really stupid claim to make, one that only a fool would make. the actual most knowledgeable person wouldn’t go around claiming this. they are too busy manufacturing.
He doesn’t work in manufacturing. He owns companies that work in manufacturing.
I’m not a medical expert just because I pay my medical bills.
He does both. He owns it. He also goes down onto the manufacturing floors and gets his hands dirty sometimes
It’s like saying the doctor who owns his own clinic has no idea what the nurses do.
No, it’s like saying that a businessman who owns a hospital has no ideas what the doctors are doing, despite the fact that once a month he shows up in scrubs to push a patient’s wheelchair for a photo op.
Mmm, more like if the business man also spent all his time learning about medicine, got a degree in both medicine and business and spent time brainstorming and diagnosing patients
Even then, that would not make that businessman the most knowledgeable in the world about medicine
looks like you should open a hole-digging business.
This is like when Papa John would come shoot a commercial at one of his franchisee’s stores.
Sounds very much like Trump’s mode of speech. Best/biggest in history yadda yadda
This is Narcissistic behavior, not exclusive to trump, but only because trump and musk are both Narcissists of a high caliber.
Been around the orange so long he thinks he can lie and get away with it too
Unfortunately he has similar real-world experience to trump’s: Be a total shitbag and get handsomely rewarded by it in the ways he cares about. I mean why care about being a horrible husband and father when there’s money and fame to be had?
