• hark@lemmy.world
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      The US has been involved in war for almost every single year of its existence, so actually it’s easy to say even when one’s home country is involved in a war.

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      No matter the context, I stand by my point.

      A necessary evil is still evil, that’s a sad truth but it doesn’t make it more moral.

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        Are Ukrainian soldiers evil for defending their homeland? What about republican fighters in Spain in the 30s? What about the partisans in italy in that same time? Or the french resistance? Killing an evil person, or evil people, doesn’t make one evil.

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          What about the veterans on the other side of those wars? Do you celebrate them as a “super man” (übermensch)? I’m sure they thought they were fighting for a good cause too.

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            There’s a somewhat antiquated idea of honor that accounts for that. A good man can definitely be on the other side, and you need to kill him anyway.

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        I think war has a way of proving the fallacy of a binary moral stance. Good and Evil aren’t as clear cut as we would like it to be.

        The only thing it’s good at is at showing who is heroic and who is craven. Heroic isn’t perdefinition morally good, it’s selflessness.

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            Sacrificing your life, your innocence and morality in order to secure your lands from imperialist threats that would see millions of your people wiped out or oppressed?

            is it not selfless to damn yourself to whatever form of oblivion awaits you so that the next generations might not have to?

            • 🇰 🌀 🇱 🇦 🇳 🇦 🇰 ℹ️@yiffit.net
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              Why do we have to kill each other though? Why can’t war just be a giant fist fight or like WrestleMania’s Royal Rumble? Why not conduct war in a video or board game?

              Why even use soldiers? Let the leaders fight each other! They’re the ones having beef!

              (This is rhetorical)