profane language is the word ‘fuck’.
this is not yelling ‘fuck’ at the top of your lungs, but more like ‘aah, fuck’, meaning why do things have to be this complicated? or, why didn’t coworker X did his job as he was supposed to? Why is this documentation not in order?
Have you ever been fired over this? reprimanded at work?
I use ‘fuck’ a lot, not to intimidate anyone, but each time something bothers me, I could as well use ‘come on!!’ but ‘fuck’ comes to me more naturally.
If I get a written warning, is this a reason good enough to start looking for employment elsewhere?
To those of you not in America. Is it different where you are?
I once described a rather sharp bit of cold weather to my boss by explaining that I was “shaking like a shitting dog”. He merely agreed.
It was a fucker that day, mind you.
I mask at work. At work I’m happy and helpful. I don’t cuss. I don’t get involved in drama. I don’t cause problems. Keep my head down, punch that clock, make my money. That’s the only reason I’m there.
I do my cussing at home. A place without judgement or guidelines to abide by.
I build fences. 3 out of 4 words is fuck.
1 out of 4 is fence?
It’s pretty common in Australia, so long as we’re not swearing at people nobody gives a fuck. I’d say unless your manager has mentioned it to you, it’s not a huge deal.
I’m a professional and I conduct myself like one at work. Your coworkers have the right to work in a non-hostile environment, and believe it or not, some people consider profanity to be hostile. Plus, there are more effective ways to communicate your thoughts in a professional environment than through profanity. I’ll occasionally swear with a coworker I’m close with if we’re one-on-one, but never in a group setting. Cursing is expected - almost mandatory - in some careers such as a restaurant kitchen, or a construction site, but I don’t work in that sort of environment anymore.
My boss told me verbally “don’t call your colleague a fascist by email or anything else that leaves a record”, so that was nice of him.
If I get a written warning, is this a reason good enough to start looking for employment elsewhere?
To those of you not in America. Is it different where you are?
Germany here. We have explicit laws protecting workers.
If the company wants to terminate your contract, then there are only a limited number of specific reasons that are allowed. And then they must observe a notice period usually (1-2 months). The worker can easily go to court against it (costs are moderate) to have it checked.
If they want to fire you immediately (all subsidiaries of foreign corporations usually want that, and most of the German big corpos too), they can suspend you from working, but you still get your pay until the end of the notice period, or you can make a termination agreement that ends the contract immediately and you get all that money (plus maybe a little more, negotiable) at once.
And there is another way: if you have severely violated your duties, then they can terminate you immediately, without paying any longer.
But it is only with very serious violations, where they can argue that it isn’t tolerable for the company to have to endure you any longer. Many such events actually go to court afterwards, so they really have to be careful to do it right.
If the violation was not so severe, they can give you an official warning, usually in writing. You can also go to court against the warning, and the court can nullify it, if it was wrongful.
If you have received a warning and it was valid and afterwards you do the same violation again, then they can also terminate you immediately. And again, you can go to court to have it checked, like above.
Work in software project management. People swear pretty regularly. The higher up in the hierarchy you go, the more they swear. If a job gave me a warning for that I might leave because they treat their employees like children.
Also work in software. Had people swear on 300+ person meetings, vendors meetings, etc. Nobody has ever been written up to my knowledge.
ITT: American HR vs the world.
1st amendment bro
Which only applies to being able to criticize the US government without persecution. It absolutely does not apply to employees of private businesses and institutions. They can fire the fuck out of your ass over your filthy fucking cum gutter of a mouth.
…has nothing to do with the OP’s question.
Bad joke?
Well, you could start your own business where you can say what the fuck you want. Or, you could not act entitled like you think you can say whatever the fuck you want in someone else’s business. It’s up to fuckin’ you.
If I’d be in trouble fr saying fuck or swearing in general, I’d be in trouble. I’m a software developer and I have to deal with shit like Microsoft products (any of them) and my own code as well. Good hing i speak enough languages to curse with variety and make it harder for people to know what I say
I’m the Forman at my metal shop… If you’re not swearing in front of customers I don’t give a fuck.
As long as you keep a cool head and pay attention to who’s in the building, I’ll let you get away with most things
Back when I worked pizza, that was the rule. But I was able to train myself, and neither the boss nor customers knew what “ОПА БЛЯТЬ!” meant when they heard it from the back of the shop lol.
The difference is between cursing and cursing AT someone.
“The garage door broke.” “Ah, fuck.” - Fine “You fuck.” - Not acceptable
If you get a written warning, it’s probably time to start looking for a new job regardless.
