Netflix execs needs a new jet.

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    We are officially round the circle.

    From cable tv with ad breaks to streaming ad-free and back to streaming with ad breaks.

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      2 months ago

      don’t forget about the ‘bundles’. lock you in to paying for six to keep you from service hopping.

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      And that’s why I just cancelled Disney+ and Netflix. They were reasonably priced before, so I subbed. They hiked, so I left. Just those two together (Disney+ bundle + Netflix no-adds) was almost $40, which when added to my internet package, would basically be paying for cable.

      So instead of that noise, I’m self-hosting. Screw 'em.

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        I can’t take credit, it’s a joke I stole from Civvie11 (Amazing game review show, I highly recommend it, especially if you like Boomer Shooters)

        The show has the attitude of “If you fail to provide a way to legally obtain your product, you have no right to gain angry when someone pirates it.” and constantly brings this up when it reviews games like Nintendo’s Geist or Activision’s Wolfenstein remake (Which since Activision and ID Software are owned by the same company now could be re-released without issue, but for some reason they’re just not)

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      2 months ago

      I haven’t pirated stuff in years but started again this year. It sucks that my favorite torrent site was shut down though.

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          I’m gonna look into this, thanks! 😄

          I have a few go-tos foe different types of content but it’s always scary they might just stop existing one day.

          …I mean…piracy’s bad m’kay 👀

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            Go for the Arr suite. Radarr for movies, Sonarr for series. They work well with Jackett, and actually have an even better (use comfort) alternative to it called Prowlarr. Once set up, maybe spending a couple hours understanding how they work, downloading a movie or a series is as easy as entering its name in a search field, seeing the related list (completely accurate), hitting add and watching the torrent start automatically. And if Jellyfin is configured as well, I can start watching whatever I downloaded with a couple clicks right away on any device I have Jellyfin, in full whichever quality my pre-set profile searched the torrent sites for. That’s quite the supply chain, centralized after landing on your host computer, streamable to any local devices or online devices, and can be automated to even search and download queries that come through discord messages.

            Understanding the indexer stuff can take a little time at the start, but it is actually as easy as saying that Jackett/Prowlarr is just the middleman between you typing your movie name and searching through all torrent sites you want at the same time. The net has videos of using them if they look confusing at any point. Using Radarr/Sonarr themselves after setting up the indexers is as straightforward as using any streaming services.

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        I started last year again, after they killed the family plan if you don’t share a household. Instead of paying $10 to Netflix we now pay $7 for a 2TB cloud storage account where everyone uploads their pirated movies.

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        I personally buy the shows I want and rip them to my media server. It seems to be about $10/season, $10-15/movie, which I think is cheaper in the long run than paying for no-ads on these streaming services.

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          On top of that you get to keep the blu ray artworks and extras so pretty worth it i might say

          • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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            Yup, and I can lend them to people as well. If I recommend someone, there’s a good chance I have it, and there’s also a good chance it’s not on whatever streaming platform they use.

      • TheAgeOfSuperboredom@lemmy.ca
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        I just don’t watch many shows and a lot of the stuff coming out I don’t find that great anyway so I’d rather do something else with my time than pay more for worse service.

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        I’m on the particular community. It’s a Piracy community which has an entire megathread to everything related to Piracy, such as: movies, games, tv shows, software and anime.

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          Ugh. I do like the idea of defederating in theory, but this is the third time I’m going to have move instances because something I want access to is blocked.

          Is this just a ‘me’ problem or something everyone has to deal with from time to time?

          • GregorGizeh@lemmy.zip
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            I had the same issue when initially coming to Lemmy, and made several accounts before I got so annoyed I did the research and chose an instance specifically for its federation/defederation policies; which led me to where I am now.

            Lemmy.zip has defederated only illegal content such as csam and gore, as well as meta because fuck corporate.

            I just generally dislike the idea of an arbitrary censorship list being applied to my content feed, I can choose and block myself.

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              I also would rather manage what I block or federate to. I hate that Lemmy enables instances to have too much control over its users, deciding what you can and cannot see and admins can see your PMs too. I got fed up with Lemmy.world because of their federation fuckups, why would communities that talk about piracy but don’t link to anything cause an admin to get sued? They won’t, reddit allows more piracy talk than Lemmy.world does lmao. Obviously Nintendo searches through the fediverse for anyone even saying they pirated stuff, right guys?! Nah I just don’t care for their admins. I usually dont agree with whatever their admins say, I even saw someone from world complain about Lemmy.world policies on their thread and the user got their account deleted by an admin with a nice smug response from them. I can’t have my own instance since I don’t have the money to spare, otherwise I would since it is BS that Lemmy doesn’t allow users to have the same control over their feed as an admin.

              • ✺roguetrick✺@lemmy.world
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                What you’re complaining about is impossible to do without hosting your own instance. I’m not even talking about Lemmy here, in saying from a software perspective. Like you’d have to have local encryption keys only to prevent a host from reading your messages. And there’s no way anyone would just host whatever because the users want it.

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              2 months ago

              I have both an account on Lemmy Zip and on Monero Town and both of those are really good about not defederating most things.

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            2 months ago

            We all gotta deal with it on any instance that is not your own. It’s not unheard of for people to create their own lemmy instance so they have exacting control over their federation.

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                  2 months ago

                  I haven’t had any issues. Mods of the communities I’m subscribed to usually handle it before I even see it. I mainly only deferedate for political reasons, like Threads.

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              I have a simi-public instance, I made the decision to not federate with the NSFW instance as having [posable] non-consensual/underage manga/other content that is treated much harsher here than Piracy ( that is a pure civil thing here) and keep federation with !piracy@lemmy.dbzer0.com

        • GregorTacTac@lemm.ee
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          Lemmy.world is hosted by real people, not corporations with tons of money to spend. Getting sued could potentially ruin the admin’s life, so it’s perfectly understandable.

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            There is literally zero possibility of them getting sued over this. It was nothing but a way to cement their hold as the biggest community. Yes, this makes me a hypocrite. I’m just too fucking lazy to switch.

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              In the US, you can sue anyone for any reason, even if it’s frivolous.

              You force the other side to respond, making them hire a lawyer to defend you, even if the case is dismissed on its merits.

              I very much disagree with lemmy.world’s decision to block the community but I completely understand it. I exercised my right to move to a new instance in response.

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              Sorry, why would blocking piracy communities cement our hold on anything?

              Just to be clear, I wasn’t involved in the choice to block piracy related communities, but I just don’t see how blocking them helps the hosts in any way except preventing legal disputes.

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                They blocked the whole instance when dbzero was easily one of the biggest and quickly growing when the influx was happening. It was completely unnecessary but maybe I’m just salty and reading too much into it tbh.

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            If they actually consulted a lawyer, I’d be fine with the decision.

            They did not. They make rash, uninformed decisions, based on feelings not reality, as a knee jerk reaction to other unrelated events.

            So it’s not very understandable. They could have consulted a lawyer for less than a month of their hosting costs.

          • SnokenKeekaGuard@lemmy.dbzer0.com
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            2 months ago

            I like dbzer0 but also really like sopuli.xyz and slrpnk.net. Oh also literature.cafe.

            All of them have great uptime too.

            Can’t go wrong with any of these. They’ve all got good local communities too.

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        I would be pretty annoyed to let lemmy.world decide what I should read on the Lemmyverse :)

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    And people will bitch and moan on the Internet, pay up, and repeat the process next time they try this.

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      The stock is doing good so there must be plenty of people thinking Netflix is essential. And I guess it is if you have no tech skills at all.

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        I don’t have a subscription myself, but if I want to watch something they have, I’d rather pay up than spending my time trying to figure out how to pirate it.

        For me, it’s less about technical ability, and more about how I spend my time.

  • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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    Cool, I was planning to cancel this month anyway. I just finished ripping all of our DVDs and Blurays, so I have quite a bit of content ready to go. I have told my wife and kids I’ll buy whatever they want, within reason, and rip it to our private streaming service. I think we’ll end up saving quite a bit of money eventually this way, and we have no ads with our self-hosted video service.

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        Jellyfin. I was previously just using minidlna, but Jellyfin has an app for our TV and looks much nicer than the basic interface dlna offers.

        I’m running it on an old PC running Linux, and it was pretty easy to set up.

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        Don’t know about OP, but Plex works great! Get a Synology NAS and run your Plex server on that

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          Plex is pretty commercialized these days and I don’t doubt they’re likely selling your data.

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      I’ve tried ripping my DVDs and can’t get it to work. Can you share details on how you did that?

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        I use Handbrake or MakeMKV depending on the disc. MakeMKV I mostly use for Bluray, Sometimes the odd DVD doesn’t work correctly with Handbrake.

        In Handbrake, I just select the Quality and keep original Audio source, I’ve not needed to change any of settings.

        If you use MakeMKV, Its “raw” so large file size (Some Bluray files I’ve had are like 40GB), You can run that file through Handbrake to reduce it.

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          This may be more involved than most people are willing to go but just wanna add:

          • This can be painfully slow without a dedicated GPU. Even low-mid range dedicated is gonna be a huge upgrade over CPU or integrated GPU so get one of those (if you can) or prepare to leave it overnight.
          • I recommend playing with Handbrake settings a little. Use options with HEVC (x265) or AV1 for significantly smaller file sizes at the same level of quality. If you’re leaning towards x265, an Nvidia card using the NVENC option is gonna be significantly faster.
          • Handbrake has a preview feature which outputs a 30 second segment at the given settings. Very useful if you wanna tune the quality/file size.

          Bonus: Look into Jellyfin for a streaming service like interface

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      Not only no ads but shit you actually want to watch and all right there no hopping from this service to that service to watch a frickin show

      • sugar_in_your_tea@sh.itjust.works
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        Yup. The main issue is exclusives, but most of those suck anyway. I told them we’ll give it a few months and see where we’re at.

        But between the two, I’m spending $40/month to avoid ads, so it’s probably cheaper to just buy what we want to watch instead.

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          A 5TB portable hard drive only costs as much as three months and can hold most of the stuff you ACTUALLY wanna watch. To be fair, DVDs and BluRays can get expensive but at least that’s yours forever and you don’t have to worry about the studio suddenly deciding you need to subscribe to THEIR bullshit too. If it’s not available outside of streaming, well Gabe Newell said it best.

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            Yup. If I can get it legally to own, I will. If I can’t, I’ll find other methods…

            I used Netflix because they had fantastic selection, a pretty decent UI, and good features on their apps. We recently went on a road trip, and both Disney+ and Netflix had “expired” our downloads (which we had downloaded like 2 weeks prior), so our kids couldn’t watch most of what we had planned for during the trip. So their features are lacking, pricing sucks, and selection is more limited than when I signed up.

            So yeah, if I’m going to have crappy selection anyway, I’ll just buy what I want and save the monthly sub.

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    My Netflix is called rutracker, your Netflix is called The Pirate Bay

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    I quit netflix recently after almost 10 years of continuous subscription. When they raised the price again it was a good Occasion although not the reason. I think so was done with it for a while now.

    I guess I’ll start reading books again - or watch a few films instead of stretched out series.

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    Already canceled a long time ago. When I subbed they had all the good shows in one spot. Then everything got split up among others services and it was no longer worth it.

    Plus the content they make themselves is hit or miss. And the misses are in far bigger numbers.

    Seems like they brought themselves to a spot where growing more is very hard so they start messing with subscriptions to get more money.

    Just curious what they are going to do when that stops working, because I think the next step is just to realize more growth is very hard. And anything they change may add subscribers but it may also cause them to leave, so they have to turn the knobs very carefully.

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    Every time I hear something about Netflix I always wonder how it is even still running. Still wild to me that they had the entire monopoly on streaming and fucked it up anyways.

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      Seriously. I was subscribed from the time they first started streaming… And then years later they remove the entire rating system, and replace it with a system clearly intended to confuse and manipulate their users into thinking they have better and more plentiful content.

      I dropped Netflix then and there, and never looked back. They stopped being a great service at that specific moment.

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      In their defense, they didn’t fuck it up (at first), media publishers saw there was money in streaming and decided that they wanted a bigger slice of the pie. When everyone is trying to take the whole pie for themselves, no one ends up with any pie.

      However pretty much every move they have done in the past 5 ish years has been fucking it up.

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        No they screwed the pooch hard in the beginning. They could have bought up rights to basically everything for pennies compared to what it is worth now because of the leverage they had before any of those media publishers had options elsewhere.

        Netflix was literally in the position to tell them what the price was back then and now they have nothing to bargain with because the market is saturated.

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          That’s basically what Netflix did in the beginning. The challenge for Netflix is that the media companies they were licensing content from weren’t dumb, so the licensing agreements were time limited. The media companies caught up and built their own streaming platforms and now Netflix is at the receiving end of disintermediation.

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          But wouldn’t them buying all the rights to “basically everything” incentivise them more to jack up prices and include ads since the user base has no legal alternatives ?

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      Netflix didn’t fuck their monopoly up. They just didn’t have an eternal technological moat. Their monopoly had an expiration date which is why they shifted to content generation.

      Nowadays the problem they face is that there isn’t enough people on the planet to grow forever, so in order to keep growing they have to squeeze harder.

      Their content is terrible tough, there they did drop the ball.

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        Seems like everything they made that was good was cancelled after one season. I dumped them for that, then they went all greed and now I hit the high seas if there’s something I really want to watch.

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            I don’t watch a lot of TV so it’s enough for me. Although to be honest if my partner ever gets smart and leaves me I’ll drop all streaming and just use i2p. 😆

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              I already have a Jellyfin setup like that but that also means I can watch that stuff from Netflix. I heard you can use i2p for torrenting (only Linux ISOs, of course) instead of a VPN, is that what you mean? I currently use a VPN for that.

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                i2p is a bit like Tor. Both are overlay networks, meaning that they use the “normal” Internet as their lowest layer. They use similar method of obfuscation using multiple hops.

                i2p doesn’t rely on special nodes, I think, which Tor does. i2p also does not connect to the “normal” Internet (basically).

                Like with Tor there is no need for a VPN (or rather, little need for a VPN… probably both i2p and Tor are safer than any VPN, but nothing is 100% safe, so some people use double VPN, or Tor over a VPN).

                Tor is not designed for torrenting. It assumes TCP connections - mostly for web stuff - and doesn’t handle torrent well. They also don’t want you bogging down the system with your filthy porn. 😆

                i2p solves this by forcing you to send data for other users in order to download anything. This helps make your traffic harder to track and helps the overall network. It also means that downloads are slow. Very slow. Like, basically start your download and come back in a day or two. Not a problem if you have four or five downloads in progress, but it makes spontaneous watching impossible.

                Anyway, I’m hardly an expert but this is my understanding!