I think a little clarification is needed. No. I don’t actually think everyone there is insane. I don’t care about the bans so stop trying to use that. HB enthusiasts coming here and trying to call me out achieves nothing besides proving my point

Edit: Feel free to keep trying to brigade me. It’s not going to scare me to take this down

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    Do you have any examples of this? Since world is defederated from that instance, I only end up visiting it when people like you come in and talk about how absolutely crazy it is over there, so occasionally I’ll take a curious peek. This time I see… a post about Indigenous rights, a post criticizing capitalism, a post dunking on musk, a post about FOSS… when do I start seeing the crazy?

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      If you’re a rabid right winger like most redditors anyone with half a brain will seem crazy.

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        I did, and still didn’t see the crazy. In fact, all it did was make me wonder why an instance with such little activity gets talked about so much.

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          I don’t because I blocked the instance. I’d recommend if you’re curious, just take a look at it. I’m probably being more dramatic than necessary, and I know there are some good instances there. Just be careful

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      They very quickly ban people who disagree with their propaganda. So just browsing, it looks like left leaning but generally sane people.

      Go on there and say anything negative at all about China. You’ll see the crazy.

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        Have you considered you are just observing this:

        Hexbear is for communists to talk to communists. They get plenty of the “default” liberal opinions from waves hands around vaguely and are entitled to their own community, no?.

        Obviously if you go into Hexbear and just start posting anti-China stuff they’re going to ban you. It’s not like the English-speaking world is bereft of anti-China news articles.

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          This isn’t accurate, they were very active in brigandine other federations, hitting random threads on .world for instance with hundreds of reply comments drowning out anything that may be a tiny bit critical of china or Russia. Or pro west.

          There wereultiple cross-posts daily pointing to specific threads posted on hexbear to organize brigading.

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            hitting random threads on .world for instance with hundreds of reply comments

            .world preemptively defederated from hexbear “as a last resort” can you clarify when the events you’re referring to would have happened?

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            hitting random threads on .world

            Dang that’s pretty impressive for an instance that got blocked by .world before they ever started federating.

            Or did I already miss make stuff up o’clock?

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            This isn’t accurate, they were very active in brigandine other federations, hitting random threads on .world for instance with hundreds of reply comments drowning out anything that may be a tiny bit critical of china or Russia. Or pro west.

            Have you considered that their users were just browsing the front page and what you’re describing is just the nature of lemmy and how federation works?

            There wereultiple cross-posts daily pointing to specific threads posted on hexbear to organize brigading.

            You’re likely referring to the_dunk_tank which is a community that encourages bullying homophobia, transphobia, fascists and liberale (pretty based imo)

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            There wereultiple cross-posts daily pointing to specific threads posted on hexbear to organize brigading.

            Yeah, I do remember that. That’s why I’m not signed up there. They weren’t changing anyone’s minds with their shitstirring and were doing it for their own enjoyment (which is damaging to all communities, even nonpolitical ones, if people avoid your platform due to trolling).

            That said, it was a past problem, and posters on lemmy.world are still out there complaining about Hexbear like they’re relevant. I’m speaking about the current situation.

            I’m not advocating for them to re-federate with lemmy.world (I have no dog in the race, anyway, being a part of neither instance) but I do remember watching the Hexbear mods/admins shutting down the actual brigading of threads before lemmy.world de-federated. Not sure it was a solvable problem, anyway, Hexbear is rather antagonistic in ways I don’t agree with.

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          I’m not trying to join their cult. I’m not feeling excluded from their cult. I’m saying their cult should not exist. It is a mixture of crazy people and Chinese propaganda, and it deserves to be stamped out.

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            Ah yea, everyone that has an opinion that isn’t mine is dangerous and deserves to be silenced. I totally agree. I think lemmy.world should refederate, and then defederate a second time, just to make sure they get the message.

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            The Falun Gong are, right now, kidnapping children and brainwashing them into being performers for their shitty dance troupe. These performers are not paid, cannot leave The Compound, and cannot contact their family. That’s a cult that the government should stamp out.

            Hexbear is a bunch of people with a different opinion on the western world’s designated Enemy Governments. They’re not in the same ballpark, or even playing the same sport.

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              Lol who the fuck said anything about Falun Gong? That’s out of left field. You got a bug in your programming?

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                We were talking about cults, I brought them up as an example. I could have just as easily used Scientology.

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                    Right. I was saying that Hexbear isn’t a cult on the same level as the named examples, that it’s just some people with a different view of global politics than the norm, in response to a commenter who insisted that they were a dangerous cult that should be stamped out.

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        I might not agree with the moderation practices or even their opinions, but that doesn’t make them crazy.

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              Yeah. Here it goes:

              “ableism” is used as cover for shills to attempt to shut down people who call out their batshit insanity.

              Oops

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                got it. for anyone else reading this: why exactly is jumping straight to mental illness as the source of any disagreement not ableist? Does someone who struggles with mental health get no say on literally any topic?

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                    riveting comment. truly, I’ve never read this type of comment before and now I’ve been owned!!!

                    I will now give the obligatory response: amerikkka is a dying empire and will not be able to stop China and socialism. die mad about it loser.

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            lemmy.world users don’t interact with hexbeqr users because your admin preemptively defederated from hexbear “as a last resort”. At no point were the two federated. I don’t know about crazy, but that seems inconsistent. Don’t you agree?