• TrickDacy@lemmy.world
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    13 days ago

    Yeah AI can be wonky, but what idiot would spend a shitload of money on a graphics card without even being willing to click an article and read a bit?

    It’s on you if you do that. Even if the AI shit worked way better, why would you trust there aren’t shady things happening to influence the AI and have you spend more money.

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      My dad falls into this category he constantly replaces things with way worse things just because they are new, I can’t get my mind how he can replace really good working stuff with new junk that isn’t even capable of doing the job .

      Wish I was joking but he does this constantly.

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        Thats where you say “hey dad do you still need this janky old…”

        Then when the new stuf breaks you can come over and be the hero using his old reliable stuff.

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          If only he tends to give these things to the conmen installing the junk. I’ve tried to stop him wasting his money so many times but it’s futile I’ve tried to use his latest oven he had an amazing one before but when I tried to use the new one following every instruction he said and the actual manual I looked up online myself the food came out later absolutely fridge cold.

          He insists his new cooker is brilliant, what can you do with that response to something that’s obviously broken from new and he should be returning.

          He might need a home but I can’t do that to him truthfully, I just wish he had some common sense when it comes to things like appliances etc.

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          I’m sorry but we’re going to have to send that to the English teachers to see if it’s really one word…

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            (on mobile, so sorry for any formatting weirdness)

            English teachers will only give you an arbitrary, subjective answer about whether it’s a word - you want a linguist if you want an objective answer.

            Since we’re dealing with two different “words” (roots) here, factory and overclocked, the first thing to look for is compound stress. Many compound words in English get initial stress: compare “blackbird” and “a black bird”.

            This isn’t foolproof, however. For some speakers there are compounds that don’t get compound stress - some speakers say “paper towel” as expected, while others say “paper towel”, but it’s still a compound either way.

            So how can we actually tell that paper towel is one word? See if the first member of the potential compound (the non-head) can be modified in any way.

            For example, we know doghouse is a compound because in “a big doghouse” big can only refer to the house, and cannot refer to “the house of a big dog”. Similarly, blackboard must be one word because it can take what appear to be contradictory modifiers: " a green blackboard".

            So, in the same way, paper towel and toilet paper are one word because “big paper towel” can’t mean “a towel made from big paper” and “pink toilet paper” can’t mean “paper for a pink toilet”. (Toilet paper also gets compound stress.)

            Yet another way to test is by semantic drift (meaning shift). As mentioned earlier, blackboards don’t have to be black, so the meaning of the compound doesn’t perfectly correspond to the pieces of the word - instead, the fact that it’s a vertical board you write on in chalk is much more important to the meaning. This is because once the pieces combine to form a new word, that new word can start to shift away from the meaning of the pieces. Again, however this process takes time, so it’s not a perfect test.

            So, back to the original question: is “factory-overclocked” one word?

            Well, it doesn’t get compound stress, and for me I can still say things like “it’s home-factory-overclocked” to mean that it was overclocked in its home factory, so the first member can take modifiers. And, the whole thing still means what the pieces mean.

            So, in my grammar, “factory-overclocked” is two words. But for some of you “home factory overclocked” may not be possible, which would indicate that it’s started to become one word for you. Everyone’s grammar is different, but we can still test for these categories.

            If you instead mean by your question, “can factory and overclocked be combined with a hyphen?”, however, I can’t help you, because language-specific writing conventions are subjective and arbitrary, and not something that linguists usually care very much about.

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              13 days ago

              And this is why I love places like Lemmy. An offhand joke turns into an actual grammar lesson. Thank you!

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    14 days ago

    It goes without saying that this shit doesn’t really understand what’s outputting; it’s picking words together and parsing a grammatically coherent whole, with barely any regard to semantics (meaning).

    It should not be trying to provide you info directly, it should be showing you where to find it. For example, linking this or this*.

    To add injury in this case it isn’t even providing you info, it’s bossing you around. Typical Microsoft “don’t inform a user, tell it [yes, “it”] what it should be doing” mindset. Specially bad in this case because cost vs. benefit varies a fair bit depending on where you are, often there’s no single “right” answer.

    *OP, check those two links, they might be useful for you.

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      LLMs don’t “understand” anything, and it’s unfortunate that we’ve taken to using language related to human thinking to talk about software. It’s all data processing and models.

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        Yup, 100% this. And there’s a crowd of muppets arguing “ackshyually wut u’re definishun of unrurrstandin/intellijanse?” or “but hyumans do…”, but come on - that’s bullshit, and more often than not sealioning.

        Don’t get me wrong - model-based data processing is still useful in quite a few situations. But they’re only a fraction of what big tech pretends that LLMs are useful for.

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          Yeah, I’m far from anti-AI, but we’re just not anywhere close to where people think we are with it. And I’m pretty sick of corporate leadership saying “We need to make more use of AI” without knowing the difference between an LLM and a machine learning application, or having any idea *how" their company could make use of one of the technologies.

          It really feels like one of those hammer in search of a nail things.

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    14 days ago

    There’s nothing contradictory in what is written there.

    “The XTX is better - but you don’t deserve it, bitch”

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    13 days ago

    Hello, fellow humans. I too am human, just like you! I have skin, and blood, and guts inside me, which is not at all disgusting. Just another day of human!

    Won’t you share a delicious cup of motor oil lemonaide with me? It’s nice and refridgerated, so it will cool down our bodies without the use of cooling fans!

    However we too can use cooling fans. They will just be placed on the ceiling, or in a box, or self standing, and oscillating. Not at all inside our bodies, connected to a board controlled by our CPUs that we clearly don’t have!

    Now come, let us take our colored paper with numbers and pictures of previous human rulers and exchange them for human food prepared by not fully adult humans who haven’t matured to the age where their brains develop the ability to care about food sanitation. Then we shall complain that our meal cost too many paper dollars, while recieving less and less potato stick products every year. Ignoring completely the risk of heart disease by indulging in the amounts of food we desire to aquire.

    Finally we shall retreat to our place of residence, and complain on the internet that our elected leaders are performing poorly. Rather than terminate the program vote the poor performing humans out, we shall instead complain that it is other humans fault for voting them in. Making no attempt to change our broken system that has been broken our entire existence, with no signs of improving. Instead every 4 years we will make an effort to write down names of people we’ve already complained about in the hopes that enough people write down the same names, and that will fix the problem.

    Oh. Shall I request amazon.com to purchase more fans and cooling units? The news being reported that tempatures will soon reach 130F on a regular basis, and all humans will slowly perish.

    Shall I share photographs of the new CEO of starbucks who’s daily commute involves a personal jet aircraft, which surely isn’t compounding the problem at all?

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    I switched to duckduckgo before this bullshit, but this would 100% make me switch if I hadn’t already.

    Who wants random ai gibberish to be the first thing they see?

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      14 days ago

      Better than an Ad I guess? Not sure if my searches haven’t returned any AI stuff like this or if my brain is already ignoring them like ads.

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        The plan is to monetize the AI results with ads.

        I’m not even sure how that works, but I don’t like it.

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      14 days ago

      DuckDuckGo started showing AI results for me.

      I think it uses the bing engine iirc.

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        And you can use multiple models, which I find handy.

        There is some stuff that AI, or rather LLM search, is useful for, at least the time being.

        Sometimes you need some information that would require clicking through a lot of sources just to find one that has what you need. With DDG, I can ask the question to their four models, using four different Firefox containers, copy and paste.

        See how their answers align, and then identify keywords from their responses that help me craft a precise search query to identify the obscure primary source I need.

        This is especially useful when you don’t know the subject that you’re searching about very well.

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      If search engines don’t improve to address the AI problem, most of the Internet will be AI gibberish.

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        The good thing about that is that this kills the LLMs, since new models can only be trained on this LLM generated gibberish, which makes the gibberish they’ll generate even more garbled and useless, and so on, until every model you try to train can only produce random useless unintelligible garbage.

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        The internet as we knew it is doomed to be full of ai garbage. It’s a signal to noise ratio issue. It’s also part of the reason the fediverse and smaller moderated interconnected communities are so important: it keeps users more honest by making moderators more common and, if you want to, you can strictly moderate against AI generated content.

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    13 days ago

    You can do this with practically any versus question and get hilarious results

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        Yeah I should have mentioned the context is FBLA, and Google partially fixed the prompt.

        Original from a few weeks ago:

        BPA is another student org called Business Professionals of America

        The AI ignores the subject context and just compares whatever is the most common acronym.

        They lazy patched it by making the model do a subject check on the result, but not on the prompt so it still comes back with the chemical lol.

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    ChatGPT4o can do some impressive and useful things. Here, Im just sending it a mediocre photo of a product with no other context, I didnt type a question. First, its identifying the subject, a drink can. Then its identifying the language used. Then its translating the text without being asked, because it knows I only read english. Then its providing background and also explaining what tamarind is and how it tastes. This is enough for me to make a fully informed decision. Google translate would require me to type the text in, and then would only translate without giving other useful info.

    It was delicious.

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      The search engine LLMs suck. I’m guessing they use very small models to save compute. ChatGPT 4o and Claude 3.5 are much better.

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      And good luck typing that in if you don’t know the alphabet it’s written in and can’t copy/paste it.

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    13 days ago

    There’s nothing wrong about it.

    Neither is worth it. But if you have unlimited money, XTX is the better card and therefore a better deal. But if money is a factor, get the XT because the performance per $$$ of the XTX isn’t worth selling a kidney.

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      13 days ago

      I think amd is worth it’s money tho, they scale their price to match their nvidia counterparts performance wise, i mean 7900xtx worth just as much as 4080 and performs as such but have more memory and is a better match for Linux gaming

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        Yep, my comment was tongue in cheek. It’s a useless result and only sort of makes sense as an overly reduced summary that has lost vital context.

        The other reply is the obvious answer. Each answer is from a different viewpoint from a different user.

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        13 days ago

        The AI response reads like when you are looking for something in Reddit and you get 3 very different responses in 3 different threads about the same topic

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    13 days ago

    At the very least it failed in a way that’s obvious by giving you contradictory statements. If it left you with only the wrong statements, that’s when “AI” becomes really insidiuos.