Like, the nutrition facts table says it contains nothing other than some sodium. No sugars or fats or calories at all
Yet it clearly is edible, so what is it? Some concoction made mostly from indigestible minerals?
For that, look at the ingredients list, not the “nutrition facts”.
The nutrition panel only captures a subset of important bioavailable nutrients.
For example, water is obviously a digestible nutrient, but is not represented there on.
Exactly, the nutrition label isn’t a list of all substances found by chemical analysis, it’s literally just the most important “nutrition” information
what in it is listed i the ingredients list.
What??
It’s a rough read, but it checks out. Completely coherent.
Has Anyone Really Been Far Even as Decided to Use Even Go Want to do Look More Like?
It’s all about how they sweeten the drink. Regular coke uses corn syrup while diet coke uses aspartame. This allows the diet coke to have no calories.
Yeah but Coke isn’t JUST sweeteners (it’s real sugar over here u-u) and water. At least according to the ingredients list, there’s like, the extract of a weird nut (the Cola nut!), you’d think that would have some sugars and ~organic bits~ (proteins? Idk) of its own
Kinda like how juices with “no added sugar” still have some calories, idk
Kinda like how juices with “no added sugar” still have some calories
That’s because fruits naturally have sugar in them.
Human taste is actually quite remarkable, to the point of noticing a single drop of fruit juice in a liter of water if dissolved well. You don’t need much to add a basic flavour to stuff. The original coca cola recipe measures the various plant oils in drops per 2½ gallon. The recipe has been altered over the years, or course.
Coke is sugar, coloured sith sugar, flavoured by sugar, dissolved in acid because water wouldn’t be able to dissolve that much sugar without making you want to vomit, with a bunch of cafeïne. Oh, and some plant oils for flavour.
Diet coke is much less sugar (of a more complicated type), coloured by sugar, dissolved in acid, with a bunch of cafeïne and some plant oils for flavour.
Coke zero is acid with a tiny bit of sweetener, coloured by sugar, with a bunch of cafeïne and some plant oils for flavour.
Almost all of the taste of coke is sugar or sweetener. The other ingredients are added in such small quantities that they barely add up to a calorie per serving.
A 330mL can of coke contains 33 grams of sugar. Two cans of coke and you have exceeded your daily sugar intake (which includes all the other food and drinks you consume as well, so you’d better not eat any processed food for the rest of the day, let alone drink a glass of milk!).
It’s so little per serving they’re permitted to not list it.
It’s like 0 calories - they’re permitted to say that when it’s below a certain level, per serving that (I think) it’s in the error range of measurement.
Yes there are more differences and there’s likely different recipes based on where you live. But the main one, from my understanding, is what I said in my original comment.
I seem to recall that if the total calories are below a certain point they’re still allowed to call it “zero calorie”. Diet Coke is mostly water which has no calories and all the other ingredients probably amount to like 2 or 3 calories total. Since that’s considered a negligible amount they just list it as zero
Asparthame = Cancer
Aspartame consists of two amino acids (L-phenylalanine and L-aspartic acid). It is hydrolyzed and absorbed in the gastrointestinal tract (GI) through the action of esterase and peptidases. Digestion releases methanol (10%), aspartic acid (40%) and phenylalanine (50%) (Table 1), which are absorbable in the intestinal mucosa [10]. These metabolites can be harmful at high doses and hence prolonged aspartame consumption may be a risk factor
Not saying people should start chugging it down en masse, but your own quote there makes it sound pretty far from equalling cancer.
Which part of risk factor is confusing?
You’re clearly the only one who is confused
Bro aspartame is one of the most studied substances on earth and they all point to your claim being bullshit. https://www.fda.gov/food/food-additives-petitions/timeline-selected-fda-activities-and-significant-events-addressing-aspartame
Well then drink up my friend— and wash it down with a cigarette!
Yeah, this comment is the real cancer.
From the paper that you definitely read and understood and didn’t just copy/paste a random line from:
According to current knowledge benefits of aspartame use outweighs the possible side effects, hence this artificial sweetener remains basic excipient in products.
People love to cherry pick this argument so hard.
Aspartame is linked to a possible near zero to low increase in cancer risk. Not zero, theres enough evidence to say that some people if they drink a LOT over a LONG time it COULD cause something that MIGHT not have happened. There are multiple studies on Pubmed I can link to show this. However The evidence on excess sugar and carrying excess weight is ABSOLUTELY UNDENIABLE. The negative health outcomes for being overweight or having diabetes are just straight up facts.
So pick your poison, if you have a family history of bladder, bowel, stomach or colon cancer you may want to avoid the aspartame. If your doctor has just told you you have pre-diabetes and you’re going to lose your foot or have a massive heart attack if you don’t cut out the sugar and lose some fucking weight the minuscule risk of something thats an outside chance vs that…
This comment is DogPeePoo.
Drinking a can of diet coke a day has the same cancer risk factor as going on a daily walk near a road
I’d be surprised if it’s even that high. Just going outside would spike your chance of skin cancer.
Aspartame is very mildly carcinogenic. An equivalent amount of sugar is much more carcinogenic, and is harmful in other ways, too. If you have to have a can of cola, diet is the healthier choice.
That last part isn’t true.
You can’t ignore the effects of artificial sweeteners on insulin levels and the fallout from that.
Truth is that drinking over sweetened water is just not healthy at all, it’s a matter of picking what problems you want to get from them
Based on a quick google search, the jury is out on whether artificial sweeteners affect blood sugar and insulin at all.
A study from the National Library of Medicine says they do but cites no source and the study itself isn’t reaaly about that; it does demonstrate that diabetics that drink artificial sweeteners have higher insulin resistance, but is that a causal relationship? If so, which is causing which?
The mayo clinic says straight up that artificial sweeteners don’t affect blood sugar at all.
There is a response to release insulin purely on tasting something sweet that’s been demonstrated in some mammals using artificial sweeteners, but nobody’s been able to consistently reproduce it in humans.
So… Eh? If there’s any kind of scientific consensus on this it isn’t clear to the layperson. Maybe I’ll start measuring my blood sugar before and after having a coke zero just to see for myself.
Personally, I can ignore the effects of artificial sweeteners on insulin levels as they, like everything else, have no effect, and my insulin levels are only affected by when I inject it. I’m type 1 diabetic. When people make incorrect claims based on effects that aren’t reproducible or weren’t statistically significant in the first place about the safety of sweeteners, it causes direct problems for me. I’ve had bartenders mess up my blood sugar levels by lying about serving diet drinks because they think they’re dangerous. Plus, if the people who push for artificial sweeteners to be banned had their way, there are plenty of things I couldn’t ever eat or drink again.
Aspartame is, by far, the most tested food additive ever made. There have been no causal links to cancer ever proven when consumed at recommended levels. Not ever.
Others have cited sources about how wrong you are. It’s also just common sense. With the sheer amount of diet soda that the world drinks, it would be fairly obvious by now if aspartame was significantly carcinogenic.
Even the text you quoted (but didn’t cite, not helpful) only says that prolonged exposure may be a risk factor. Quite a leap to then say that “aspartame = cancer”
It’s worse than that. AFAIK, the WHO doesn’t have a list of “does not cause cancer”. Aspartame is on the least problematic category even when you disregard the effect size.
https://fdc.nal.usda.gov/fdc-app.html#/food-details/769164/nutrients
INGREDIENTS: CARBONATED WATER, CARAMEL COLOR, ASPARTAME, PHOSPHORIC ACID, POTASSIUM BENZOATE (TO PROTECT TASTE), NATURAL FLAVORS, CITRIC ACID, CAFFEINE.
As I understand diet coke uses sucralose, not aspartame as sweetener.
Sucralose has a different sweetness profile, much closer to real sugar and is not bitter. Compared to aspartame in zero/light that needs 0.2g salt/liter to cover up the bitterness.
This is not correct.
Diet Coke definitely still uses aspartame and not sucralose.
Okay not all Diet Coke uses sucralose, but you can still buy Diet Coke with Splenda https://www.cokesolutions.com/products/brands/diet-coke/diet-coke-with-splenda.html
So, what you meant to say was that there also exists a version of diet coke with sucralose instead of aspartame?
I would advise avoiding things with sucralose.
It’s a cola with an artificial sweetener. There’s lots of misinformation out there about diet soda. It mostly passes through you, unlike regular soda which has lots of sugar that your body stores as fat. Not to say either one is healthy because it most certainly is not. However, phosphoric acid in cola (both regular and diet) can lead to an increased risk of kidney stones. In case anyone is wondering I do not work for big soda, I’ve just read way too much about this topic.
Ok so cite the study thats not bought from the big drink factories that proves you don’t get cancer from diet soda. Let’s see your proof.
I wasn’t even under the illusion that it would be good for me, lol.
Even IF Diet Coke is a sometimes drink for me, that ‘sometimes’ means ‘once every saturday’ – It’ll probably give me diabetes long-term but y’know. Some people ruin their livers with alcohol, some people fuck their lungs with cigs, I’m screwing up my pancreas with diet soda. 🤷
I believe its mostly soda water and caramel coloring (no duh)
The sweetness is from aspartame, a very common artificial zero-calorie sweetener.
Aside from that it’s gonna be a (trade secret, they’ll never tell us) mixture of artificial and natural flavorings. All virtually zero calorie, and probably in very small amounts.
egg white is 90% water. it doesn’t take much to drastically alter water
The person that typed this comment is about 60% water.
Extreme dehydration, kindly drink 10% more water
You ugly bag of mostly water…
In Australia they give (from largest to smallest):
Ingredients
- Carbonated Water
- Colour (150d)
- Food Acids (338, 330)
- Sweeteners (951, 950)
- Flavour
- Caffeine
With the numbers corresponding to:
- 150d - soft-drink caramel
- 338 - phosphoric acid
- 330 - citric acid
- 951 - Aspartame
- 950 - Acesulfame potassium
I think of it as a flavored seltzer.
Aspartame is the sweet flavor and unspecified “natural flavors” do the rest.
I don’t drink it often anymore, but it’s great for a no calorie treat. No it won’t give you diabetes but you shouldn’t drink it instead of water. It isn’t water.
Aspartame has about the same amount of calories as sugar (4kcal per gram). But it’s much more sweet so you need very little of it. So there is a very tiny amount of sweetener which does contain calories but it’s rounded down to 0.
If memory serves a 12oz can is just a little under 1/2 calorie.
If tens of thousands of commercials I heard in the 80s were right…
“Less than a calorie, Diet Coke!”
Just for the taste of it!
The difference is also big enough that cans of diet coke float and regular sink.
Well, this will be my next party trick somehow.
You son of a bitch…now I gotta buy a can of diet coke, and a can of coke.
I don’t even LIKE diet coke! But I gotta know if you’re full of shit…
water, acids for the sour taste, coloring, caffeine and sweetener that is more effective than sugar and just activates the sweet taste buds, but has no significant nutritiinal value.
How is this the top comment… Sodas are flavor extracts at their core. The amount of other things are just there to balance or optimize those core flavors. Sweet, salty, acidic, viscosity, color, fizz… All choices on top of the flavor extracts. Diet soda just substitutes sugar for low calorie sweeteners.
they add a little nuance, but their quantity is not relevant for nutritional value, which is what OP asked about
For which the original answer is insufficient, but I guess my clarification wasn’t eli5. The flavoring extracts do contribute calories but they are too low to be reportable by federal standards and many artificial sweeteners also have calories but are also too low to report.
you also forgot the coke-leaves extracts. (“natural flavors”)
It’s mostly molasses and baby shite.
