https://bsky.app/profile/esqueer.net/post/3lyy4zevlyc2z - Alejandra Caraballo

The trans partner of Tyler Robinson had no knowledge about it and was told to delete messages but didn’t and instead turned them immediately over to the police and cooperated. Yet, the right is demonizing her and blame everything on trans people despite the trans person here doing the right thing.

I mean, absolutely worst boyfriend imaginable. I can’t imagine a partner doing something like that and then dropping that news on me. It was beyond selfish and disgusting. He not only ruined his own life and took another’s, he ruined his partner’s life as well. She’ll never have a normal life again.

The right are going to paint this as some result of radicalization and the fault of trans people but this was a cis white man and trans people had nothing to do with it. The partner was a helpless bystander in all this and when confronted with the truth, did the right thing and called the police.

You can tell the right believes she’s actually a woman because they’re blaming her for the actions of a man.

  • SoftestSapphic@lemmy.world
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    13 hours ago

    Did these messages come from the same fascist governor and FBI that lied about the fake bullet engravings?

    If so then it isn’t valid

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    14 hours ago

    I have to admit my first reaction is hell no, don’t talk to cops. Don’t snitch. Don’t give them any evidence. In this case though I understand it because she’s probably going to need to be in witness protection to keep her safe from right wing extremists coming to kill her.

  • Fedegenerate@lemmynsfw.com
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    1 day ago

    Facists are going to do terrible shit. It doesn’t matter how you try appease them, they are going to do terrible shit.

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    You can tell the right believes she’s actually a woman because they’re blaming her for the actions of a man.

    On the one hand, YES YES YES.

    On the other hand, it’s so much more than that. SO many people were painting this as trans motivated violence BEFORE there was even a credible suspect in custody. Literally even before they found out he was dead, there were large numbers of people online saying this was due pro-trans terrorism.

    I do not believe any of the rest of those points will mean a thing to the average MAGA conservative, based on my experience. In the most literal sense possible, most absolutely do not understand the difference between a trans person and drag queens. They honestly and fully believe that trans people are perverts patrolling public bathrooms to rape women and children. Trans-men practically do not exist, nor do intersex, nor any other atypical physical, genetic, gender, or sex presentation.

  • arsCynic@lemmy.ml
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    1 day ago

    Perhaps neither here nor there, but there are in fact worse boyfriends imaginable:

    • Donald Trump
    • Jeffrey Dahmer
    • Benjamin Netanyahu
    • Saddam Hussein
    • Heinrich Himmler
    • Anders Behring Breivik
    • Leopold II of Belgium
    • Et cetera.
  • RedSnt 👓♂️🖥️@feddit.dk
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    Ok, that last tweet made me bellow laugh, because it’s so true: “You can tell the right believes she’s actually a woman because they’re blaming her for the actions of a man.”. I mean it’s tragic, but it’s also insane how in searching for the scape goat it always comes down to either a minority or a woman. And in this case both.

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      15 hours ago

      It reminds me of a friend who was doing a PhD involving some weird, new kind of lasers. Catching up with her one time, she said "Well, men have started explaining my own research to me, so I guess that means I pass ¯_(ツ)_/¯ ".

      My response was “Congratulations? Also, F.”

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    2 days ago

    My fellow retards the “right wing is LITERALLY KILKING TRANS PEOPLE” rhetoric resulted in a murder.

    Also we’ll see how little knowledge he had when the investigation is done.

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    2 days ago

    That second part feels like it would be part of a heavy drama where the guy snaps and starts to act as if he’s in a comedy where actions don’t have much consciences, I guess like if you had a human peter griphin be the only one who acted like cartoon character meanwhile they both dragged down together

    If you did it from the wife’s perspective it might not even be noticeable at first “oh he’s just acting silly to deal with stress” or something then boom he hits her boss with his car, they’ve been together so long that of course the wife gets blamed and why did he attack her boss

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    2 days ago

    For those, like me, who haven’t seen these texts

    Robinson: drop what you are doing, look under my keyboard.
    [When the roommate looked under the keyboard, there was a note that allegedly read: “I had the opportunity to take out Charlie Kirk and I’m going to take it.”]

    Roommate: "What??? You’re joking, right???
    Robinson: I am still ok my love, but am stuck in orem for a little while longer yet. Shouldn’t be long until I can come home, but I gotta grab my rifle still. To be honest I had hoped to keep this secret till I died of old age. I am sorry to involve you.

    Roommate: you weren’t the one who did it right???

    Robinson: I am, I’m sorry

    Roommate: I thought they caught the person?

    Robinson: no, they grabbed some crazy old dude, then interrogated someone in similar clothing. I had planned to grab my rifle from my drop point shortly after, but most of that side of town got locked down. Its quiet, almost enough to get out, but theres one vehicle lingering.

    Roommate: Why?

    Robinson: Why did I do it?

    Roommate: Yeah

    Robinson: I had enough of his hatred. Some hate can’t be negotiated out.

    Robinson: If I am able to grab my rifle unseen, I will have left no evidence. Going to attempt to retrieve it again, hopefully they have moved on. I haven’t seen anything about them finding it.

    Roommate: How long have you been planning this?

    Robinson: a bit over a week I believe. I can get close to it but there is a squad car parked right by it. I think they already swept that spot, but I don’t wanna chance it

    Robinson: I’m wishing I had circled back and grabbed it as soon as I got to my vehicle… I’m worried what my old man would do if I didn’t bring back grandpas rifle … idek if it had a serial number, but it wouldn’t trace to me. I worry about prints I had to leave it in a bush where I changed outfits. didn’t have the ability or time to bring it with… I might have to abandon it and hope they don’t find prints. how the [expletive] will I explain losing it to my old man…

    only thing I left was the rifle wrapped in a towel…

    remember how I was engraving bullets? The [expletive] messages are mostly a big meme, if I see “notices bulge uwu” on fox new I might have a stroke alright im gonna have to leave it, that really [expletive] sucks… judging from today I’d say grandpas gun does just fine idk. I think that was a $2k scope;-;

    Robinson: delete this exchange

    Robinson: my dad wants photos of the rifle … he says grandpa wants to know who has what, the feds released a photo of the rifle, and it is very unique. Hes calling me rn, not answering.

    Robinson: since trump got into office [my dad] has been pretty diehard maga.

    Robinson: Im gonna turn myself in willingly, one of my neighbors here is a deputy for the sheriff.

    Robinson: you are all I worry about love

    Roommate: I’m much more worried about you

    Robinson: don’t talk to the media please. don’t take any interviews or make any comments. … if any police ask you questions ask for a lawyer and stay silent

    Source: https://www.bbc.com/news/articles/c99g1e0z2ero

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    2 days ago

    In Groyper’s defense, Charlie Kirk, the 13th disciple of crucified Christ, wasn’t Valhalla enough to date a Valkyrie who transitions for the greater good.

    /s

  • JusticeForPorygon@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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    2 days ago

    Okay now I’m confused was the roommate trans or not because I was under the impression that was a hoax.

    Either way I do think these text messages are fake as fuck. They read just like something Kash Patel thinks a leftist would say

    • Florencia (she/her)@lemmy.blahaj.zoneOP
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      MAGA needs the Charlie Kirk shooter to be trans illegal college immigrant. Since he was a cis white trades apprentice guy from a conservative family, they’ve pivot to him being indoctrinated by his trans roommate.

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        A Cis white trades apprentice guy from a conservative family who has a history of listening to Nick Fuentes, a right-wing podcast dude who called for political violence toward the left, and has even chastised both Charlie kirk and Donald Trump

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          who has a history of listening to Nick Fuentes

          Would you have a source where I can read about that? I haven’t been able to keep up with all the news

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              Who are these investigators? Where are the discord messages? It’s odd that the smoking gun of the article isn’t shown or corroborated. Or am I missing it somewhere?

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            I’m pretty sure no source has confirmed he’s a Groyper. It’s just speculations.

            All we know is that the shooter wasn’t particularly political.

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                1 day ago

                That article doesn’t point to any specific. Citing the article:

                On his Discord and social media accounts, Robinson shared Groyper memes, labeled Kirk a “Zionist sellout,” and praised Fuentes’ “purity tests” for conservatism.

                This could be the most concrete evidence. The question is, what memes did he share? What were the texts showing he praised ”purity tests”? There’s nothing in the article, and I haven’t seen anything surface since.

                Recovered rifle casings had chilling inscriptions like “Hey fascist! Catch!” and references to internet memes rooted in alt-right culture. Some even referenced the leftist anthem “Bella Ciao”—used ironically by the far-right online.

                The link between the inscriptions and the Groyper movement weak. Liking Helldivers 2 doesn’t make you a Groyper.

                To me, this sounds more like the typical fashion of old people not understanding young people internet culture, and attribute anything they don’t understand to the alt right.

                The rest of the article is just explaining the Groyper movement.

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                That link is kind of suspicious. I don’t know how much faith you can put into it.

                Propaganda exists and just having a link doesn’t mean you’re right.

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              The shooter’s mom said he leaned left into the extremism of thinking gay and trans people deserve to have rights. Absolutely no other examples of leaning left, just that one thing.