• surph_ninja@lemmy.world
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    8 days ago

    I’m getting pretty fucking sick of seeing this ‘no one should be killed for their political beliefs’ take going around.

    He wasn’t killed for his beliefs. He was killed because he dedicated his life to terrorizing everyone who isn’t a conservative white man, and was materially supporting state violence in the pursuit of white supremacy.

    That is 100% something we have firmly established that people should be shot for, in multiple wars throughout the last few centuries.

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    8 days ago

    Yes, but also you reap what you sow. I am sure he knows on his heart he had to die to protect second amendment rights! /S

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      8 days ago

      Thing is most gun owners who hunt know. I saw a man shot at close range when I was in my early twenties. I wasn’t involved, just passenger in a car nearby when it happened. The next day there was nothing about it in the papers. Nothing at all. This guy gets shot and no one cared.

      I shot pigs for slaughter at close range right between the eyes when I was ten or eleven years old. All us kids took a turn and in some ways it was a good thing. Its good you know where meat comes from. Only a fool would think that shooting a person isn’t going to result in a large amount of blood. That shot was in a region of the body that has closely grouped large arteries and veins. No surprise there was so much blood. Anyone who is surprised should be thankful they have never seen something like that before.

      I saw that video of the man shooting himself in those faces of death videos back in the 90’s. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/R._Budd_Dwyer I felt bad about it because they said he was a good man. As for Kirk I feel very little. His words have made me care very little for him. Similar to how I felt when that healthcare guy got deleted.

      I realize I may be more desensitized to the things like this than most. At least I hope so.

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        I have never seen a person get shot in person (I’ve seen those videos too) but I have hunted pigs and kangaroos, bullet wounds really aren’t portrayed well in media.

        What’s funny to me is that American conservatives will argue that you can’t have guns in Australia. You can. We have guns and… no school shootings. No politicians being assassinated.

        Charlie Kirk spouted all kinds of bullshit about my country. I’m very happy he won’t be doing that anymore.

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        8 days ago

        and in some ways it was a good thing.

        It is. It really should be a prerequisite for gun ownership: you have to kill something.

        That is a threshold I can’t personally cross, so I don’t think I should own a gun (and I dont).

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          Ehhhh, I wouldn’t be for making death a prerequisite. That’s just ending life for no good reason. Of course senseless death happens all the time, but normalizing and requiring it is a hell of a choice…

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        8 days ago

        No, but there was a shooting of 3 innocent students in Colorado today and now you know what happened to them. And the Uvalde students… Dozens of them…

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            8 days ago

            Meanwhile, your “working class” is armed to the teeth and fascism is still running amok.

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              The left is notoriously unarmed while the right is the reason our gun ownership is so high. At a time when the right threatens to take more and more away, this feels like a poor choice. Personally I agree with a very prominent leftist that the working class must be armed, and I feel that as those on the left we need to see the writing on the wall. The united states does not appear to be going a more peaceful direction, and if we want to keep having any rights for the workers at all we need to be ready to frustrate any attempt to disarm or otherwise neutralize us. In a world where the right does not threaten to take guns from trans folks or keep us from using our right to organize, we can talk about gun control again. Sadly we are sliding away from that so fast that I can’t imagine where we will be at the end of this presidency.

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                The left is notoriously unarmed

                Heh. The left talks about their guns less. They don’t have guns on their Christmas cards with their kids as part of their identity.

                But there are plenty of leftists with guns.

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            8 days ago

            You’re right, we already have a goal. There’s no way we can do 2 things at once or one after another… Just impossible. Thank you for your insight.

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      8 days ago

      I found out from a clip wife showed me. Got no clue who he was but he was surrounded by MAGA hats.

      Boy that was a lot of blood!

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            Been looking for the link but kind of immediately regretted watching that jesus fuck that’s a lot of blood.

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              I have been desensitize to it because my twitter timeline has been flooded with toddlers having their skulls hollowed out by the IDF. A live-streamed holocaust has kind of made violence seem not that abnormal to me, so it comes across as strange when politicians cry about people advocating for violence, when literally most of them support industrial-scale genocide of hundreds of thousands that I see dying on a day-to-day basis. That alone has changed me from a “violence is inherently bad” type mofo to a “I would celebrate if most of these American politicians were [redacted]” type mofo. Why should I care if a person who loves mass murder of children dies? It’s called karma.

              • EldritchFemininity@lemmy.blahaj.zone
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                The full quote is even more something out of a movie too somehow.

                He had just been asked if he knew how many mass shootings had been committed by trans people, to which he responded “too many,” and was then asked if he knew how many mass shootings happened in the past ten years, where he responded “with or without gang violence?”

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    8 days ago

    coming soon: maga face anuses whining and crying about “how dare people celebrate and mock the dethroatification of this kind caring (former) red-blooded american patriot!!!”

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      8 days ago

      that blood was pretty red and it was all over him, so i’d consider him red-blooded still